Can content creation be a respectable job/art?

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Inspired by the "Do you get angry about Onlyfans whores making good money" thread, but something I've thought for a while.
I think I already know the majority answer, but it's worth discussion.
Can content creation ever be respected as a viable profession/art?
Should people be able to make content creation their main job and be respected?
 
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Should people be able to make content creation their main job and be respected?

All jobs should be respected. There is a purpose in all things and creating content is a massive industry on its own. If you didn't have content creators, where would we get our favorite music, movies, paintings, and books? I respect anyone who takes the time to be content creators.
 
All jobs should be respected. There is a purpose in all things and creating content is a massive industry on its own. If you didn't have content creators, where would we get our favorite music, movies, paintings, and books? I respect anyone who takes the time to be content creators.
I guess I shouldn't have edited out my extended post. I mean content creation as in the majority of works on Youtube/Twitch/TikTok, ect.
 
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I guess I shouldn't have edited out my extended post. I mean content creation as in the majority of works on Youtube/Twitch/TikTok, ect.

I assume you're talking about the trend following, reactionary, and brain rotted content made by normies for normies? That's the lowest common denominator for internet content and I don't find it respectable at all. With that said, I think if you make content that is focused on a specific hobby or interest, that's a true labor of love and I can respect that.
 
I assume you're talking about the trend following, reactionary, and brain rotted content made by normies for normies? That's the lowest common denominator for internet content and I don't find it respectable at all. With that said, I think if you make content that is focused on a specific hobby or interest, that's a true labor of love and I can respect that.
I think a lot of things can count as art. I think video games, shitty movies, toy/figuremaking and soundcloud rap could be listed as art, if still not good all the time and I do think a lot of art forms can be considered as a decent career path. So ARGs, webshows, skits, animation and music/film/visual art that can posted on a site like Youtube/TikTok could count, as they at the lowest level generally need some creativity/planning/craftsmanship put into them.
But I've met grown men who have taken offence to me saying that Markiplier making an O face, tiddy/breadtube streamers, some random vlog/commentary channel or a 5 hour essay on film can't have any artistic merit.
 
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Maybe? "Content creation" can be kind of broad in what it means so everyone may have their own definitions in what is respectable about it or not.
 
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Content creator is a catchall term because a single person has to fill out the job for videographer, creative director, audio engineer, editor, colorist etc. etc. etc.

I feel what this thread's topic seems to skew towards is closer to influencer than content creator - which no, no one needs those.

I know good photographers that do youtube tutorials - they'd probably identify as photographers when prompted, rather than influencers/youtubers.
I've known genuinely good comedians that can perform a decent stand up gig but also do comedy gameplay - and they'd probably identify as comedians when prompted, rather than influencers/youtubers.

You can probably think of a half dozen other professions that might make it big on <social media platform>

I think that's my first basic indicator of whether someone is respectable or not - are they defined by their craft, or just their platform.
 
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All jobs should be respected. There is a purpose in all things and creating content is a massive industry on its own. If you didn't have content creators, where would we get our favorite music, movies, paintings, and books? I respect anyone who takes the time to be content creators.

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I think that's my first basic indicator of whether someone is respectable or not - are they defined by their craft, or just their platform.
That right there sums it up.
I can appreciate someone making an ARG or series of shorts, even if they're not great, because there's a removal of self involved.
I had that point with a coworker who took offence to me implying it wasn't an artform.
Where all art has a degree of the artist in it through themes/style/motifs there's an extra layer of separation that draws people to it. A good musician has to be able to play an instrument of be a good wordsmith, a filmmaker needs to deliver a decent narrative or aesthetically appealing work which requires a lot of technical oversight, video game directors need to make their works appealing to the public, ect.
But a "content creator" has no extra talent/craft. There's no filter or limitations to how they can deliver their message. They are the work they're selling.
 
Absolutely. Your job is to entertain. That is a good thing.

But I don’t understand why so many low-talent and no-talent people who just blather in front of a camera for hours get a cult-like following AND get a reasonable income from it.
 
Monetizing the Internet was a disaster for the human race.

Nothing with ads or a paywall is valid.
 
There is work that is essential to maintaining human life with modern comforts. Then there is work that is not essential to live comfortably. I don't think people should have jobs as content creators. I think that should all be done in people's free time. Work as a plumber for three days in a week, the rest of the time you can do 'content creation' or whatever. There should be no 'jobs' as 'creative writers'. There are thousands of excellent writers out there, but they're never given a chance because they spend 60 hours a week plumbing to put food on the table for their families. Meanwhile, all of Hollywood has like 4 writers churning out the same crap over and over again. You know. Don't take it too literally, but maybe you can see the problem I am describing.
 
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Can content creation ever be respected as a viable profession/art?
Should people be able to make content creation their main job and be respected?
You can be a respectable writer, artist, movie director, actor or whatever.

Being a 'content creator' is to that like flipping burgers at McDonald's is being a star rated Michelin chef.
The flaw is in the question, because it's a red herring. A 'content creator' isn't a job, because content is a broad category of product where value (thus respect) is subjective. If people find value in what you do, assuming it's by and large of your own merits, then the question of if they should be respected is irrelevant.

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When talking about these things if I do at all, the first thing that I'd require is to clearly define the terms, and then also acknowledge that we're dealing with subjective ideas, such as your criteria for something to "deserve" respect, and your criteria for what's considered art, which is different for everyone. This is meant to not talk in circles and to speak clearly, if we're going to be serious about it.

So the term is "content creation", what is it? Is it anyone that creates (or attempts to create) anything as a form of art (or for other motives, such as informative media) for others to see? Would Tolkien be considered a content creator? Based on the other responses, you're just talking about people on YouTube, Twitch, etc.

Now that we have that, what is our criteria for something to be respected? As mentioned, this is different for everyone. Mine could be that the person needs to be putting a moderate amount of effort and passion into it, and that it's honest work. So for example, a video/story covering an event or person, if they do it because they have a genuine interest in informing the public about it, is not just a cash-grab, and they're not negligent about actually discovering the truth (like having journalistic integrity, being unbiased and logical), then that could be respectable. We can expand on this, but let's leave it at that.

Now, what is art? Difficult term to define because it's also different for everyone, but I'll say that it's any work willfully created by anyone with the intent of expressing any form of beauty or sensation, and that has some amount of effort. Under this definition, it would mean that there's "bad art" and "good art" (and anything in between), depending on the beholder; so I can personally say that the usual painting of Joan Miró (which I don't like) can be art, but to me it's relatively "bad art", because I don't find much beauty in it, nor does it make me feel anything substantial, and that is my opinion, to someone else it can be "good art".

Going back to your examples, in order to put the analysis into practice: Markiplier making an "O face". I honestly don't even know this particular video, so I'll assume that it's just him making a stupid face in an attempt to be funny, in a low quality video (so like, it does not go beyond that joke, there's no skilled editing or message worth of addressing). Then, what's the question, is this particular moment "art"?

I would not even consider that art, bad nor good, because it seems to me that it's a lazy & quick way to appeal to the retards on the fanbase for a quick laugh, so maybe in that sense it's just an entrepreneurial decision to keep being on brand and appeal to your average moronic YouTube commenter, and generate views/comments. Because I'm using my definition, that's the conclusion, however to those people who got mad at you, maybe they have different criteria for what's art so they disagree with you.

Then, is Markiplier as a content creator as a whole (so not just in one particular video), respectable in what relates to his work or "craft"? Well, I don't watch him much so I don't really know, but if he's honest in his work and actually attempts to create something that he considers worthy, or that it can brighten someone's day, or if it falls in the very summarized criteria I gave earlier about this, then yes it can be respected, at least if he does this in the majority of videos or an amount that you consider sufficient.
Do I need to like his content for this? Not necessarily.

Another of your examples: e-thot/"tiddy" streamers. This is easy, what they do is not art to me, it's the most lazy content intended as cash-grabs and nothing else, lowest tier denominator. Is it respectable? Again, no, and mostly for the same reasons. It does not meet the criteria on any level for being anything other than an Internet whore trying to make money.

These are easy examples, but you'd just have to see if your own personal criteria is met, and decide. Because it's relative, some cases will be more difficult to analyze (like what if someone seems to be really lazy and uncreative in half his videos, and really skilled and passionate in the other half), but it all comes down to this.
 
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