US Can Dems Save Themselves by Spending $20M on ‘Speaking With American Men’? - Democrats spend 20 million in order to not learn the lesson that they need to drop the idpol stuff

In the aftermath of Donald Trump’s morbidly authoritarian return to the White House, several members of the Democratic Party elite have been pitching plans and multimillion-dollar ideas for how to win back young male voters, many of whom spurned Democrats last fall.

One of these proposals, “Speaking With American Men: A Strategic Plan,” went viral after receiving a brief shout-out in The New York Times on Sunday. Described as a $20 million effort to “study the syntax, language and content that gains attention and virality” in male-dominated spaces online (such as video games), the “SAM” fundraising pitch was roasted by everyone from left-wing podcasters to Kamala Harris 2024 operatives to Joe Biden’s former Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg, who discussed the proposal with The Bulwark.

After days of watching derisive comments pile up online and on TV (including on Fox News), and joking among ourselves about starting a competing “Speaking to Dudes” plan for only $19 million (codename: “STD”), Rolling Stone decided to get to the bottom of questions that until now remained publicly unanswered, including: Who or what is “SAM,” and who is actually running this thing?

Our reporting soon led us to the names of two Democratic Party heavy hitters running the “SAM Project,” as well as to some of the national party’s stalwarts who offered preemptive, hefty derision toward the new effort.

Certain details of this project had been circulating in Democratic circles for weeks. One Democrat who received the fundraising prospectus says that they saw it, skimmed it, then closed it immediately because what they had seen seemed so “fucking stupid.”

Still, we wanted to see for ourselves, so we reached out to the two key figures behind the SAM Project to learn more about it and review its much-discussed fundraising prospectus (embedded below). The group also shared with us its 31-page presentation titled “How to Stop Losing the Culture Wars — and Win Back Men.”

“Speaking With American Men” is being led by Ilyse Hogue, the former president of the abortion rights group NARAL Pro-Choice America, and John Della Volpe, director of polling at the Harvard Kennedy School’s Institute of Politics and an adviser to Biden’s 2020 campaign. The project’s fundraising pitch lists former Rep. Colin Allred (D-Texas), a one-time NFL player who lost a Senate race to Ted Cruz last year, as part of the SAM Project team.

In a joint interview today with Rolling Stone, Della Volpe and Hogue wanted to clarify a few things. (Yes, they have seen the mean social media posts.)

For one thing, they stress that the $20 million they set out to raise is for a two-year budget, which would be dedicated to not just research, but also for outreach, organizing efforts, and communications. The group intends to study and engage niche communities popular with young men of different races and backgrounds, including in forums and spaces focused on video games, cryptocurrencies, fitness, and DIY videos.

The point of the project, they explain, is to listen to “a cohort of young people who don’t feel like the Democratic Party hears them or cares about them,” as Della Volpe puts it. He says Democrats’ failure in 2024 was about “over relying on analytics and not listening to people,” and that the Harris campaign did “something that no other [Democratic] campaign this century has done, which is to not optimize young people.”

Hogue and Della Volpe both sought to warn Democrats last year about their growing problems with men, particularly younger men. Hogue wrote several pieces for The Bulwark last year about Trump’s appeals to young men and Democrats’ “male voter problem.” Della Volpe wrote an op-ed for the Times about how Trump was successfully “exploiting the fears and insecurities of young men.”

Their SAM Project is not just a fundraising pitch — it’s happening. Without saying how much money they’ve raised, Hogue confirms they’ve received “initial investment in the work that we’re doing and a lot of interest, honestly, in the research that is coming out of it.” Over the past two months, Della Volpe’s research firm conducted 30 focus groups among men ages 18-29.

“This level of listening is something that these young men have expressed explicitly that they have been waiting for for a long time,” says Hogue, adding that “$20 million seems like actually a drop in the bucket when you think about what is being spent over … a two-year cycle on speaking to voters. It actually feels pretty modest when you think about by how much we lost this group and how much we have to make up ground.”

The SAM Project says it is being fiscally sponsored by Democracy Matters, a Washington-based nonprofit with ties to David Brock’s liberal American Bridge network.

While some of the planks in the SAM Project documents risk coming off as ham-fisted (“Develop, disseminate, and test high-quality, meme-friendly content”), the group aspires to engage with real problems, such as how the right radicalizes men via online platforms — “utilizing the algorithms to cycle them into a right-wing funnel.”

It also highlights key financial concerns that young men face in today’s society: “job security, home ownership, wage growth, and affordable education/trade programs.” The prospectus seeks to “highlight the ways in which billionaire-backed culture war distractions serve as a smokescreen to divert attention from economic inequality, stagnating wages, and corporate exploitation.”

The SAM Project’s presentation notes that young men recognize that “institutions have failed them.” They feel “let down by politics, education, law enforcement, and labor systems.” They “don’t believe Democrats fight for them, but many don’t think Republicans care either.” And they have “learned to expect neglect, not support.”

The presentation says that “economic insecurity cuts across income and identity,” and young men are “overwhelmed by the cost of living, the instability of work, and the distance between what was promised and what’s real.”

On the other hand, the SAM Project’s financial solutions, as described in the fundraising prospectus, seem fairly small ball: “expanded child tax credits, homebuyer incentives, and workforce training.” Democrats’ 2024 platform, which failed to drive necessary support among young men, already contained references to such items. (The SAM Project team advises developing “specific language” to frame these policies “as a path to economic empowerment rather than government dependency,” which almost sounds like a conservative talking point.)

Asked about the fact that Democrats had already pitched similar ideas during the Harris campaign, Hogue says it’s impossible for the party to “build trust” around their economic policies “if you’re not in the spaces [where] people are debating them far in advance of the election, and the Democrats were completely absent from those spaces.”

Hogue says there are areas where many young men agree with Democrats, such as on social issues, as well as on economic policies, but the latter are “not being emphasized.” She explains that “unless the Democrats are saying these are top priorities because they affect young men, which they really were not, then that’s not going to resonate as much as it could.”

The SAM Project presentation indicates that many young men view Democrats as weak — and “want leadership that signals strength, clarity, and follow-through — especially in a world that feels unstable and demanding.” The document says there appears to be some level of “generational tolerance for authoritarian tendencies,” relating in part to institutions that aren’t working for them.

Hogue says that, in their research so far, what they’ve been hearing from people is that “‘Democrats don’t care about us, [and] even if they did care about us, they’re weak. They can’t get anything done. And that is an issue — that is a gap, a chasm, that needs to be addressed.”

The presentation quotes a Hispanic man from a rural background saying of Trump: “I think he has that strong man, you know, vibe that definitely a lot of guys, you know, like or relate to. I think people view him as, you know, kinda tearing down the structures that maybe they feel haven’t helped them.”

The duo fronting SAM are acutely aware that they have, even at this early stage, their fair share of intra-party critics who appear far from being won over. Several of these SAM Project skeptics are not mincing words, either.

“I think both Ilyse and John are smart, talented operatives who have very good intentions. I think broadly, writ large — and this is hardly unique to Ilyse and John — it is beyond embarrassing that in the year 2025, the Democratic Party wants to spend tens of millions of dollars to figure out how to talk to half of the population. It really isn’t that hard,” says Ammar Moussa, formerly the rapid response director for Harris’ 2024 campaign. “This really isn’t rocket science. We’re treating young men and working-class voters like they’re foreign aliens who just visited Earth who are speaking a different language. And to some degree, we are [speaking a different language], for a multitude of reasons — mostly because the Democratic Party is staffed with operatives who no longer reflect what the electorate looks like anymore. And that’s a problem.”

But, Moussa adds: “This isn’t a zoo!”

The Democrat who received the SAM Project’s prospectus, and who requested anonymity, says: “What pissed me off is that we’re doing all this research trying to find out the right combination of words to try to get them to like us, rather than understanding what their struggles and dreams are, and what they want out of life, and meeting them there.” This person also argues that multimillion-dollar fundraising efforts such as this run the risk of siphoning “money from organizations actually doing the work.”

One other Democratic recipient of the fundraising document says the pitch — particularly things like the use of word “syntax” — made the project read as broadly “condescending” to young American men. The price tag of $20 million also seemed “way too expensive,” this source says, referring to the idea of conducting a “safari-type study” of young male voters “as if they are a different species” as “insulting … why do this?”

But Hogue and Della Volpe contend that the issue is that there simply aren’t enough effective messengers or committed Democrats actually doing the work in these spaces, and that any liberal consultants or Democratic officials saying otherwise are fooling themselves.

In Hogue’s view: “‘Syntax’ is obviously sort of an academic word, but the way that breaks down for me is, when I, in the summer of 2024, was saying, ‘Hey guys, we have a problem. Trump just did a town hall on Kick with Adin Ross,’ and Democratic operatives were saying to me, ‘I don’t understand a single word you’re saying,’ that is a problem. When I wrote a piece earlier that year about the intentionality of RFK Jr. doing his failed presidential launch, bench-pressing shirtless in jeans, which was a direct line to the red-pill fitness channels, online Democratic operatives looked at me and said, ‘I’ve never heard of red-pill fitness.’ So they are free to suggest that the focus on language is a problem, but they don’t understand the language that people are speaking in the spaces where they are absent.”

“The solution is not wordsmithing our way to better slogans,” says Della Volpe, arguing that he and critics of the SAM Project likely “feel the same way around understanding values and experiences. There’s a misrepresentation, I think, of what the project is about.”

Here’s the SAM prospectus. See for yourself what all the hullabaloo was about:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25955887-sam-plan/#document/p1

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She did mention Kamala's statement of sex changes for illegal immigrants but just sidesteps it saying "it's not the core of our platform." Anyone advocating for stuff like this, however small a part of their platform, is sending a message that they can't be trusted to run anything.
They seem genuinely unable to understand why castrating children would be a dealbreaker for anyone, at best they see it as a minor inconvenience that any rational person should be able to get past without too much trouble - like getting a great job offer and whining about potentially being asked to work two saturdays a year. You can give me the best job offer to have ever existed, just twenty of the most exquisite bulletpoints imaginable but if the job also includes a daily 1% chance that you're going to surgically remove my genitals suddenly the rest doesn't matter because that's a hard no for any sane individual, no matter how good the rest of your offer is.
 
They seem genuinely unable to understand why castrating children would be a dealbreaker for anyone, at best they see it as a minor inconvenience that any rational person should be able to get past without too much trouble - like getting a great job offer and whining about potentially being asked to work two saturdays a year. You can give me the best job offer to have ever existed, just twenty of the most exquisite bulletpoints imaginable but if the job also includes a daily 1% chance that you're going to surgically remove my genitals suddenly the rest doesn't matter because that's a hard no for any sane individual, no matter how good the rest of your offer is.
We may need to start adding to living wills: “if I have a sudden schizophrenic break do not trust me if I say I also want my balls cut off.”
 
Oh yes, I'm sure shoving MORE advertising for the gay, tranny, bi-poc hideous mass with vitiligo into my entertainment will really make me want to vote for the dems.

It's not an issue of communication, it's an issue with the idea itself. You can't polish a piece of shit so much that people will want it because at the end of the day, it's still just a piece of shit.
 
How many more times does the party need to blow multiple millions on consultants to give them terrible advice instead of just sucking it up and going to a blue collar bar or church and just eavesdropping on the dudes there?
 
Honestly the Fetterman model isn’t a terrible one for Dems attempting to appeal to men. He was able to sell the Democratic brand without coming off too fake or low-t. His stroke really, really fucked things up for Dems imo.
His whole image is fabricated. He came from a family of politicians. The idea he is some sort of outsider conservative democrat is just nonsense from progressive democrats and election twitter nerds.
 
How many more times does the party need to blow multiple millions on consultants to give them terrible advice instead of just sucking it up and going to a blue collar bar or church and just eavesdropping on the dudes there?
The commoner is like a medieval leper, the intelligencia and activist caste don't want to touch them. But because these people hold credentials and positions of education, they're the ones who get to call the shots, no matter how bad they are. Also, most of that 20 million will disappear into unnamed pockets before they claim this attempt to be unsuccessful.
 
How many more times does the party need to blow multiple millions on consultants to give them terrible advice instead of just sucking it up and going to a blue collar bar or church and just eavesdropping on the dudes there?
1. Most of that consulting BS is just pure grift on both sides of the isle but even more so on the left.

2. They don't actually want to know or care what blue collar people think. They care about manipulating blue collar people into doing what they want.
 
"Why don't white men understand why they're so bad and that voting for Democrats is the right thing to do?" Yeah, the Dems are FUCKED in 2026 and 2028.

Ya know, they would probably do okay if they ran a candidate who distanced his or herself from identity politics and ran on a platform of getting Americans nice things like affordable healthcare, dental care, and better wages. Not illegals, not foreign students, not only special pet identity groups; American citizens. Proglib globohomo commie shit is now a religion to them.
 
His whole image is fabricated. He came from a family of politicians. The idea he is some sort of outsider conservative democrat is just nonsense from progressive democrats and election twitter nerds.
Sure but it’s the right fabricated persona for now. The problem is the Democrats can’t seem to find anyone else who can play the part.
 
How many more times does the party need to blow multiple millions on consultants to give them terrible advice instead of just sucking it up and going to a blue collar bar or church and just eavesdropping on the dudes there?
They are waiting for the consultant's report on that question before they can answer it.
 
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“Speaking With American Men” is being led by Ilyse Hogue, the former president of the abortion rights group NARAL Pro-Choice America, and John Della Volpe, director of polling at the Harvard Kennedy School’s Institute of Politics and an adviser to Biden’s 2020 campaign. The project’s fundraising pitch lists former Rep. Colin Allred (D-Texas), a one-time NFL player who lost a Senate race to Ted Cruz last year, as part of the SAM Project team.
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I know the Dems are hard-up for talent but could they have picked someone who had an actual win of some sort to their name, like the Camera Hogg?
While some of the planks in the SAM Project documents risk coming off as ham-fisted (“Develop, disseminate, and test high-quality, meme-friendly content”), the group aspires to engage with real problems, such as how the right radicalizes men via online platforms — “utilizing the algorithms to cycle them into a right-wing funnel.”

It also highlights key financial concerns that young men face in today’s society: “job security, home ownership, wage growth, and affordable education/trade programs.” The prospectus seeks to “highlight the ways in which billionaire-backed culture war distractions serve as a smokescreen to divert attention from economic inequality, stagnating wages, and corporate exploitation.”

The SAM Project’s presentation notes that young men recognize that “institutions have failed them.” They feel “let down by politics, education, law enforcement, and labor systems.” They “don’t believe Democrats fight for them, but many don’t think Republicans care either.” And they have “learned to expect neglect, not support.”

The presentation says that “economic insecurity cuts across income and identity,” and young men are “overwhelmed by the cost of living, the instability of work, and the distance between what was promised and what’s real.”

On the other hand, the SAM Project’s financial solutions, as described in the fundraising prospectus, seem fairly small ball: “expanded child tax credits, homebuyer incentives, and workforce training.” Democrats’ 2024 platform, which failed to drive necessary support among young men, already contained references to such items. (The SAM Project team advises developing “specific language” to frame these policies “as a path to economic empowerment rather than government dependency,” which almost sounds like a conservative talking point.)

Asked about the fact that Democrats had already pitched similar ideas during the Harris campaign, Hogue says it’s impossible for the party to “build trust” around their economic policies “if you’re not in the spaces [where] people are debating them far in advance of the election, and the Democrats were completely absent from those spaces.”
And they've learned nothing if they're rolling with the "we just need to finesse the message a little better" line.
“I think both Ilyse and John are smart, talented operatives who have very good intentions. I think broadly, writ large — and this is hardly unique to Ilyse and John — it is beyond embarrassing that in the year 2025, the Democratic Party wants to spend tens of millions of dollars to figure out how to talk to half of the population. It really isn’t that hard,” says Ammar Moussa, formerly the rapid response director for Harris’ 2024 campaign. “This really isn’t rocket science. We’re treating young men and working-class voters like they’re foreign aliens who just visited Earth who are speaking a different language. And to some degree, we are [speaking a different language], for a multitude of reasons — mostly because the Democratic Party is staffed with operatives who no longer reflect what the electorate looks like anymore. And that’s a problem.”
Wow, who the fuck outright said this and how did they not get chucked out the window for their temerity and honesty?
I can be persuaded to vote democrat if you give me $20 mil.

I don't live in the US tho, so good luck figuring that part out.
They've got you. One tourist visa, coming right up. Even comes with a lifetime vacation in the USA with all expenses paid for by the US taxpayer.
 
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The level of retardation this all displays amuses me to no end. Not just the "hello, fellow teens" inevitability of it, not just the "we need to talk less like the smart people we are so the chuds understand", but the whole thing is just so nonsensical it makes the Shaun of the DEad "Dogs can't look up" or the anti-Trump "Walls don't work" shit sound outright academic.

We have somehow managed to create a business (higher education) wherein people actually pay for the privilege of being not only dumber than when they began, but dumber that what they knew experientially at five or six years old. It is rather impressive brainwashing.

Their entire approach to this is comedic. It's like watching a bunch of know it alls discussing and repeatedly licking hot light bulbs, and then after much discussion trying again to see if it burns their tongues less if they close their eyes when they do it, or wear yellow hats. Repeat ad nauseum.

Maybe Tim Walz can help them out with this. I'm sure they could focus group a bunch of three year old girls where at least SOME of them would say Walz is more masculine than them.
 
How many more times does the party need to blow multiple millions on consultants to give them terrible advice instead of just sucking it up and going to a blue collar bar or church and just eavesdropping on the dudes there?
They can't do that.

Democrats are like.... well.... Imagine a person who wants to study fish, but, also hates water with such visceral contempt? That they demand you drain the fish tank before they'll go over to it.

They can't see how their list of prerequisites a mile long about forbidden words, forbidden topics and forbidden opinions they demand you obey before they'll talk to you destroys any chance to learn anything from talking to you in the first place.
 
How many more times does the party need to blow multiple millions on consultants to give them terrible advice instead of just sucking it up and going to a blue collar bar or church and just eavesdropping on the dudes there?
As many times as the money needs to be laundered.
 
Yes please come speak with me, I have an amazing story about how we used to wear onions on our belts. Not the big Bermuda ones, little yellow ones. We used to say gimme 5 bees for a quarter......................................................................................
 
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