Canada is a failed state

[MajinGoku]

Even if I agreed that this was a problem (I do not) immigration is only a temporary solution. Statistically, the next generation of immigrants have the exact same low birthrates. Are we supposed to have infinite immigration until eventually the only people left in Canada are Indians? We need infinite immigrants to support those aging immigrants who didn't have kids either?
This one fact proves that the problem is systemic. I'd liken it to how animals will not have as many offspring in a bad season, one without enough food to sustain them. Rabbits are like this, they have boom cycles every few years.
Or it's like when you have an aquarium thats too small, the fish will only grow to a certain size, and they will eat most of their offspring. If you put them in a larger aquarium the problem is solved. The economy, taxation and housing are the aquarium in this context.

I do largely agree with you immigration is a temporary solution to the problem of birthrates. the issue with not having kids is eventually the economy starts to become sluggish and growth stops and young people have to work to support a lot of old people

 

[DiscoRodeo]

I do largely agree with you immigration is a temporary solution to the problem of birthrates. the issue with not having kids is eventually the economy starts to become sluggish and growth stops and young people have to work to support a lot of old people

Fuck them old people

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

It's worse than that, the balkans at Yugoslavia's end could mostly be split up into states on ethno-religious lines with some cross migration but not a ton. How do that with Surrey BC and Brampton?

Like I said, nukes.

 

[Leaf Wage Slave Jr]

It's a fucking balkanization of ethnic groups. That's how Canada is set up right now. In times of hardship, civil war is inevitable. I pray thay it comes so that pajeets get destroyed. Brampton, Surrey, winnipeg, all the diploma mill colleges. Literal nukes. No exceptions.

Honestly nuking Winnipeg, you probably wouldn’t notice too much of a difference. Even the Shiny Downtown Core is full up on homeless camps, they just blend in better the further you spiral out from there.

do you think trudeau will be reelected

The sad thing is, the way Canada’s set up, as long as he hasn’t lost the Ontario Panhandle he has something of a chance.

the issue with not having kids is eventually the economy starts to become sluggish and growth stops and young people have to work to support a lot of old people

Here’s the other problem - Pension is likely being emptied faster than any new immigrants being taxes can even attempt to refill the coffers. Meaning that we have at least a Generation that’ve slowly come to accept that they won’t be able to retire, and with the prices of literally everything skyrocketing and the Canadian Dollar barely being worth the plastic it’s printed on, the economy in this country has bigger problems than “we need to bring in infinite pajeets to make up for no one being able to afford starting a family anymore”

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Saddest thing is white people have all but peaced the fuck out of this.

 

[DiscoRodeo]

Here’s the other problem - Pension is likely being emptied faster than any new immigrants being taxes can even attempt to refill the coffers. Meaning that we have at least a Generation that’ve slowly come to accept that they won’t be able to retire, and with the prices of literally everything skyrocketing and the Canadian Dollar barely being worth the plastic it’s printed on

Thats kind of the thing. Call it dumb, but I have my parents talking about how I need to contribute to my pension and rrsps, etc,

and I'm literally watching them with savings that would have been okay a decade ago, but are now worth drastically less because a) no housing, and b) inflation killed the dollar,

that I'm just like, I do see the value in saving, but even if I save money, whats the guarantee that what I save will even be worth anything in 10, 20 years, etc.

Already with covid, and I'm lucky I put my savings in investments, Ive seen the price of rent, food, electricity, etc skyrocket.

I honestly don't expect to retire myself, at least not in this country 40 years from now.

 

[Jarolleon]

I have several children. Don't ask me.

We need nurses and doctors to look after old people. We need tradesmen to build houses.

A lot of minimum wage jobs such as checkout counters are at the point where they can easily be automated away and that's what would be happening to low-skill jobs nobody wants to in a properly functioning economy. Shunting electrical engineers we don't need behind the counter at McDonald's is retarded. We are doing that because capital investment in Canada is incredibly low, and it's easier and cheaper for franchisee owners to petition the government to bring in more brown people to work those jobs than it is to do the proper thing and invest in automating them away.

It is not possible for the population to grow into infinity, so if the economy is built on the assumption that the population will grow into infinity, the economy is built on bullshit.

This problem has existed for so long that Canada has became well-known for producing an incredibly disproportionate number of geologists. Why? Because instead of having to work within the Canadian economy with few opportunities outside of the government, you can rent your expertise out to mining companies all around the world and bring decent money home. It's probably the same reason Britain produces so many Youtubers.

 

[stupid fufu]

Can the niggers just leave Canada already? I'm sick of not being able to have a seat on the bus because of mass immigration.

 

[Lord Xenu]

I do largely agree with you immigration is a temporary solution to the problem of birthrates. the issue with not having kids is eventually the economy starts to become sluggish and growth stops and young people have to work to support a lot of old people

I don't even concede that, but if it is the case, it will only happen once every 150 or 200 years at the peak. Its best to rib the bandage off. After the peak it will become less & less of an issue. Growth and degrowth are natural cycles, they happen everywhere in nature.
All that social net failure bullshit is just FUD to get the proletariat to go along with the real agenda, infinite "line goes up, printer goes brrr" until (((they))) bleed the country dry, and move on to the next one. It would not be an issue at all if we had competent leaders who were working for the populace.
A much bigger problem is that the federal government is the largest employer in the country. Any prospective leader who wants to cut the fat will instantly have an enormous & powerful voting block against them.

I think what a lot of people from outside of Canada do not understand is that though it is a big country, the crown owns like 98% percent of the land and they hold onto it with an iron grip. The majority of Canadians live within that little tip in the south east that pokes into the great lakes area. Even if the crown was handing out 40 acres and a mule, very few people will be willing to live outside the metro areas. I'd wager almost none of the willing would be "newcomers".

 

[MajinGoku]

I don't even concede that, but if it is the case, it will only happen once every 150 or 200 years at the peak. Its best to rib the bandage off. After the peak it will become less & less of an issue. Growth and degrowth are natural cycles, they happen everywhere in nature.
All that social net failure bullshit is just FUD to get the proletariat to go along with the real agenda, infinite "line goes up, printer goes brrr" until (((they))) bleed the country dry, and move on to the next one. It would not be an issue at all if we had competent leaders who were working for the populace.
A much bigger problem is that the federal government is the largest employer in the country. Any prospective leader who wants to cut the fat will instantly have an enormous & powerful voting block against them.

I think what a lot of people from outside of Canada do not understand is that though it is a big country, the crown owns like 98% percent of the land and they hold onto it with an iron grip. The majority of Canadians live within that little tip in the south east that pokes into the great lakes area. Even if the crown was handing out 40 acres and a mule, very few people will be willing to live outside the metro areas. I'd wager almost none of the willing would be "newcomers".
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do you think canada is fucked 100% or is it likely it will fix its issues

 

[stupid frog]

Is there any chance of canada becoming unfucked. Also if the situation is this bad where people cant afford shit then why is trudeau still in power

So what country are you trying to leave to move to Canada?

 

[MajinGoku]

So what country are you trying to leave to move to Canada?

nah im not a canadian but my aunt lives there. Im mostly just curious about canada

 

[Lord Xenu]

do you think canada is fucked 100% or is it likely it will fix its issues

I think the universe has a way of balancing itself out. It will get worse before it gets better. I will be happy if we can get the bad part over with while I'm still around to help my family through it. Yes, I think in the long run Canada (and the rest of the world) will be fine. Once again in this thread, I will refer to Jefferson:

...[W]hat country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure.

 

[PhoBingas]

Oh I just use the term because of this countries delusions of being a "Medium Tier Military Power", when in reality a literal Militia from any of the southern states could probably wrap us up in a weekend. And I feel like a weekend is being incredibly generous.

Hell, any decently sized and armed STREET GANG or cartel could probably steamroll C*nada in a long weekend.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Hell, any decently sized and armed STREET GANG or cartel could probably steamroll C*nada in a long weekend.

They don't need to. They can just send a few thousand foreign students to vote in party election(which is legal according to Liberal Party) and elect their own chink and pajeet candidate. Far cheaper to just colonize than outright conquer.

This is not even an exaggeration. It happened in the last election and no one gives a shit. Canadians don't give a fuck.

 

[Baraka Obama]

The crown owns like 98% percent of the land and they hold onto it with an iron grip. The majority of Canadians live within that little tip in the south east that pokes into the great lakes area. Even if the crown was handing out 40 acres and a mule, very few people will be willing to live outside the metro areas.

Most of the land in Canada is shit. It's not like the US where there was a massive amount of incredible farmland to parcel out.

The same situation is true in Australia where only a few slivers of an otherwise massive country are useful.

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

Most of the land in Canada is shit. It's not like the US where there was a massive amount of incredible farmland to parcel out.

Said land is either the shield, tundra, or taiga whose value comes from natural resources. Hell, A great deal of the Canadian prairie is so dry that it requires irrigation to be viable. One major problem with Canadians is that we have learned to disdain primary industry, which is why the government is micromanaging many projects to death and why Trudeau is obsessed with quantum computing and AI.

 

[Lord Xenu]

Most of the land in Canada is shit. It's not like the US where there was a massive amount of incredible farmland to parcel out.

And the areas with prime arable soil are the same places where they are regulating farmers out of business and building their 15 minute utopias.

 

[Ser Prize]

And the areas with prime arable soil are the same places where they are regulating farmers out of business and building their 15 minute utopias.
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Don't forget every attempt at setting up more resource extraction gets shitcanned because a native cried between bouts of inhaling aerosol and molesting his daughter.

 

[Clusterfuckk2]

Canadians are gonna be really fucked when they realize they don’t know the first thing about farming, building or literally any skills that sustain life; especially when the rapture (globohomo) comes.
Canadians have become so entitled and arrogant huffing their ‘Better than America’ farts it’s gonna bite them in the ass real soon.