Canada is a failed state

remiem said:
Live in ghetto Newfoundland. I think we just release everybody and that only changes if the locals see on the news a dude has been released and a kicked up enough of a stink that they worry the offender will be attacked. More's been done for Canadian justice by small town vigilantism kicking the ever loving shit out of a criminal than any of our actual "justice" system has done. Just recently in our local news was a guy who was charged with a weapons charge, released, then he went after another dude and I don't even think attempted murder was one of the charges, he is now once again released.
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Half our problem in Newfoundland is Bob Buckingham who gets skeets who rape and murder people off on technicalities constantly. The b'ys down in the pen ask for him by name. He seems especially skilled at getting skeets off the hook due to what amount to clerical errors on the part of the RNC. I'm all for fair trials, but god damn son. You're getting people back on the street because somone left a semicolon off the police report.
 
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TurdFondler said:
@Samson Pumpkin Jr. is definitely just trolling. No one could actually believe it.
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I thought so at first but as others have pointed out, there are tons of Canadians who actually think like this. He could very well be a troll (if he is then it's a great job), but I can't even tell you how many cultlike people I've seen in real life like this user, let alone normies who have no idea how bad Trudeau has been for Canada and just like him because the media says he's the good guy.

He reminds me of Jacob Blaustein except defending Trudeau instead of the right to be naked around kids.
 
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The problem is there are people that are gullible enough to believe that the image Trudeau projects is real.
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Remember how JT won in 2015: he pretended to be a champion for the middle class. Even promising ''free tuition'' and other improvements to the lives of everyone.

We all know Harper was stuffy in office, most of of us complained about him in some way or another. But we really had no fucking clue how good we had it with Harper. Did you know the man nationalized general motors in 2009 so Canadians that worked there wouldn't lose their jobs?

We also have to remember how well Canada handled the recession when it occurred back then. Yes, we still got some of it but it wasn't the nightmare that happened down south and elsewhere. Homes were still affordable in the Harper era, the ''price jump'' started around Trudeau's first term in 2016 and have kept skyrocketing ever sense.
 
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Remember how JT won in 2015: he pretended to be a champion for the middle class. Even promising ''free tuition'' and other improvements to the lives of everyone.

We all know Harper was stuffy in office, most of of us complained about him in some way or another. But we really had no fucking clue how good we had it with Harper. Did you know the man nationalized general motors in 2009 so Canadians that worked there wouldn't lose their jobs?

We also have to remember how well Canada handled the recession when it occurred back then. Yes, we still got some of it but it wasn't the nightmare that happened down south and elsewhere. Homes were still affordable in the Harper era, the ''price jump'' started around Trudeau's first term in 2016 and have kept skyrocketing ever sense.
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It's important to note that the media (especially the state broadcaster, CBC) absolutely loathed Harper and demonized him as a tyrant in addition to hyperbolizing his "scandals" to absurd proportions. Some examples included Bev Oda's playing $16 for an orange juice or the Mike Duffy affair, while scandalous, was not as apocalyptic as the media made out. The irony here is that Trudeau is an even bigger micromanager than his predecessor and the way the Liberal Party dealt with the scandals is a genuine threat to our democratic institutions, of which the media outrage is tepid at best. Part of this is because the CBC is a crown corporation funded by the federal government and highly ideological. They have a competitive advantage over privately-owned networks CTV and Global because they also double-dip by taking in advertising revenue while opening their own taxpayer-funded streaming services. So what did Trudeau do shortly after passing office? He increased funding.

As such, broadcasters and print media complained about their shrinking revenues so the government provides them with a subsidy. I do not care how little money they get from the government ($600M over hundreds of outlets) they basically sold their credibility for thirty pieces of silver. Oh, and Justin handed the private media nearly $50M before the 2021 federal election. Despite their own bragging and "steadfast" belief that they hold the powers that be to account, the media in this country are members of the Laurentian elite whose sole duty is to maintain the corrupt status quo Ottawa imposes on the rest of the country. Hell, the CBC printed outright lies about the Freedom Convoy that the LPC used as casus belli to invoke the Emergencies Act and only mumbled out a retracted when the falsehood were exposed.

For all the e-begging Rebel News does, I sure as hell trust them more the legacy media because they actually do the legwork required by journalists. Same with True North and other independent outlets because they do not take the LPC's bribes. Though I believe censorship is a core component to Bill C-11, I also see it as the Liberals protecting their investment.
 
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Mannn, I was younger and dumber and anti harper but fuck me it's just been scandal after scandal after scandal with JT. That crazy space lady and her insane office demands as Governor General, Agah Khan bribes, WE charity shenanigans, SNC Lavalin, the recent $10k food bill on the Dubai flight. It just goes on and on. Elected on a promise to reform FPTP but all we got was shitty, expensive ditch weed.
Fuckin Jughead Singh got busted for using his political insta to advertise products via sponsored posts. Dude's a money grubbing weasel.

JT wouldn't nationalize fucking anything and he'd gladly sell jobs off to Mexico if it meant a vacation and some rentboys.
 
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Skitzels said:
The internet is down for 1/4th Canadians (including the government), and has been for 12 hours now.

Possible cyber attack?
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Looks like it’s just typical incompetence at this point, someone is definitely getting or has been fired.

Internet is good in NS since we don’t have their internet, but none of the debit machines work properly. Cash or credit only, Interac depends on rogers.

 
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For my fellow Kiwis residing in Canada. It's a strong possibility that Trudeau may enact the same stupid policies that are responsible for the ongoing riots in Holland right now, with the same predictable results. I hope you're all prepping for another Trucker Convoy situation if he goes this route. I won't say that it's all but promised, but keep this in mind as warning so you're not caught off guard if he does this.

 
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The play with the fertilizer rules is kind of obvious.

1. Put rules in place that destroy small farms.
2. Farms get bought up by conglomerate.
3. Lobby new government to relax fertilizer rules.
4. Rake in profits.

So much of the current, green movement just seems to be an excuse to enable corporate rent-seeking or corporate consolidation.
 
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Sweetpeaa said:
Remember how JT won in 2015: he pretended to be a champion for the middle class. Even promising ''free tuition'' and other improvements to the lives of everyone.

We all know Harper was stuffy in office, most of of us complained about him in some way or another. But we really had no fucking clue how good we had it with Harper. Did you know the man nationalized general motors in 2009 so Canadians that worked there wouldn't lose their jobs?

We also have to remember how well Canada handled the recession when it occurred back then. Yes, we still got some of it but it wasn't the nightmare that happened down south and elsewhere. Homes were still affordable in the Harper era, the ''price jump'' started around Trudeau's first term in 2016 and have kept skyrocketing ever sense.
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This.

Unironically, I don't think that Harper was the best (theres some issues I disagreed with him on for sure), but it's a situation that has its parallels to the US ("The adults are back in charge").

I feel like with JT, we do legitimately have a populist child governing by opinion poll in charge, and that's incredibly dangerous to see at this time. I'd rather have Harper in power, problems regardless, with the ability to competently manage the economy right now (the same way we weathered 2008).

Trudeau did and would have done some of the things he promised, like electoral reform; but for example, he wanted to get proportional representation (as promised) but where people voted based on priority and any party that was the second choice would get a supermajority (ie, the liberals), which obviously the other parties would not want.
 
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DiscoRodeo said:
Trudeau did and would have done some of the things he promised, like electoral reform; but for example, he wanted to get proportional representation (as promised) but where people voted based on priority and any party that was the second choice would get a supermajority (ie, the liberals), which obviously the other parties would not want.
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What happened is everyone who knows what they are talking about wanted proportional representation because it would result in nothing but minority governments and force the parties to compromise. For example, right now in Newfoundland & Labrador we have 7 MPs. If the Liberals win all seven ridings we send seven liberals even if they only got 51% of the vote in the whole province, so it's like those votes for the other parties are just disregarded. With proportional representation let's say the liberals had 51% of the vote, the Cons had 29% and the NDP had 20%. Newfoundland would send something like 4 Liberals, 2 Conservatives and 1 NDP to Ottawa.

Trudeau wanted the ranked ballot which is the one that would result in the Liberal super majorities, because both Conservative supporters who are close to the centre and NDP/Green supporters close to the centre are all likely to pick the Liberals as their second choice.

When no one supported the ranked system, Trudeau threw a hissy fit, claimed proportional representation would allow Neo-Nazis to get elected and threw the whole electoral reform process out.

Just think about this, the Conservatives had the most votes Canada wide in the last two elections. With proportional representation they would have formed a minority both times. Not only that, but the PPC would have gotten a handful of seats as well.
 
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Trudeau is an idiot but this thread is 90% americopium. if you don't get shot in school or church or hospital or outside by some virgin/communist/nazi/spastic you'll die from lack of healthcare and be grateful for the opportunity.

Canada's not great but it sure beats its neighbours.
 
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Jeff Heaney said:
Trudeau is an idiot but this thread is 90% americopium. if you don't get shot in school or church or hospital or outside by some virgin/communist/nazi/spastic you'll die from lack of healthcare and be grateful for the opportunity.

Canada's not great but it sure beats its neighbours.
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When I studied Health Economics, we saw a (admittedly pro NHS) study claiming that the average canuck familly pays roughly $7K per year for healthcare.

I just finished a 6 months cancer treatment (chemo) in the USA for my Hodgkin's Lymphoma. If I add up my premiums and max out of pocket, I paid a total of roughly $7.5K for it. In exchange, I've received 3 different diagnostics imaging services, an oncology appointment, a needle biopsy, and a surgical biopsy/chest port surgery in 7 weeks during the holidays afyer noticing a neck mass. I then started treatment 2 weeks later.

Average wait time for a single non stat diagnostic imaging service in the Canadian province's major metropolitan city I used to live in was 11-18 months (depending on type). For stat, it was 3-5 weeks. I know these stats because I worked a performance manager there.

I've worked in both systems and have been a patient in both system. I'll take the American one 11 times out of 10.
 
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