Canada is a failed state

[TurdFondler]

I don't think it's any coincidence this topic comes up now that seniors homes are at capacity.

It's an uncomfortable subject, but we have to ask ourselves how long do we keep people alive for. Is it really more humane to keep those dementia patients locked up, scared and lost in an impersonal care system, or is it better for their suffering to end?

We're going to have lots of derelict old people very shortly and not enough in family care or even home care workers to deal with them. Medicine keeps these old people going for ages.

 

[Catler]

Is it really more humane to keep those dementia patients locked up, scared and lost in an impersonal care system, or is it better for their suffering to end?

It’s hard to think we haven’t already made that choice after imprisoning grandma in LTC facilities for several years to save her from COVID.

We are incapable of having rational discussions about death and we have defaulted to prolonging life at all costs for years now even in absence of quality of life.

IMO people here in Canada, and the west in general, can’t talk about this because it means confronting our own death.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

That article about Canada is that far-fetched as we thought and might be more closer to be right on target.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/08/canada_is_ground_zero_for_nuremberg_30.html

August 22, 2022

Canada is ground zero for Nuremberg 3.0​

By Olivia Murray


Under the leadership of Justin Trudeau and his cabinet of Klaus Schwab pupils, Canadian “health” officials appear to be euthanizing slightly disabled, but otherwise healthy adults. As detailed in a recent report by The Washington Post, 61-year-old Alan Nichols was put to death by medical “professionals” after he was hospitalized for fears he may be “suicidal.” Nichols’ family cried foul, arguing the application for assisted suicide lacked any serious justification, as the sole reason on the request was “hearing loss.”
According to the WaPo report:

Disability experts say the story is not unique in Canada, which arguably has the world’s most permissive euthanasia rules — allowing people with serious disabilities to choose to be killed in the absense of any other medical issue.
…. human rights advocates say the country’s regulations lack necessary safeguards, devalue the lives of disabled people [emphasis added] and are prompting doctors and health workers to suggest the procedure to those who might not otherwise consider it.

Devalue the lives of disabled people. Where have we seen this before?
As World War II neared, the German government implemented policies of social execution, collaborating with the medical community to save resources (both material and financial) for the inevitable bloodshed. The first targets were the elderly and the handicapped. After they were disposed of, the German government shifted gears, and all patients in state institutions filled out questionnaires, which were then submitted to a board of physicians who would determine their fates based on the provided answers. Some of those slated for death included children with polio, and those suffering from Parkinson’s, paralysis, and brain tumors.

 

[Sweetpeaa]

The UN keeps giving Canada a pass. No criticism even when this shit is going on. Even the UK got crap a few years ago from the UN for poverty increases after benefits were slashed for the poor.

 

[Kiwisee]

The UN keeps giving Canada a pass. No criticism even when this shit is going on. Even the UK got crap a few years ago from the UN for poverty increases after benefits were slashed for the poor.

Probably has something to do with Canada financing the UN via foreign “aid”

 

[Super-Chevy454]

One thing is sure, gun control in Canada don't work with more shooting who happened in Montreal.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/man-shot-rockland-centre-1.6559722

Montreal police are investigating after two men were seriously injured by gunfire in two different incidents less than an hour apart Tuesday afternoon.

The first, a 44-year-old man, was critically injured in a shooting in the parking lot of Rockland Shopping Centre in the Town of Mont Royal, according to Montreal police spokesperson Const. Jean-Pierre Brabant.

Brabant said a 911 call came in around 12:55 p.m. about a man hit by gunfire at the mall.

Invetigators are on site meeting with witnesses and reviewing surveillance footage, he said.

Radio-Canada has learned the man was shot in the upper body and transported to hospital.

"We fear for his life at the hospital," said Brabant.

 

[DiscoRodeo]

It’s hard to think we haven’t already made that choice after imprisoning grandma in LTC facilities for several years to save her from COVID.

I think that this is likely why the euthanasia bill was passed, in part. One of the consequences is that basically anyone with a terminal illness can sign off on their own death, but I'm presuming in best light (devil's advocate) that the target demographic was supposed to be seniors in situations like this (nursing homes), with terminal illnesses of disabilities, and with basically nothing going on with their lives other than to rot of entertainment, boredom, and solitude. From covid, we literally saw seniors die alone, in solitude, in these homes.

I don't think it's any coincidence this topic comes up now that seniors homes are at capacity.

It's an uncomfortable subject, but we have to ask ourselves how long do we keep people alive for. Is it really more humane to keep those dementia patients locked up, scared and lost in an impersonal care system, or is it better for their suffering to end?

We're going to have lots of derelict old people very shortly and not enough in family care or even home care workers to deal with them. Medicine keeps these old people going for ages.

I think that its a partial release valve in a sense. Let old people kill themselves if they "want", save the tax payer money. Its still fucked up though.

One of the old adeages of liberal circles is "you can judge a culture by how it treats its most vulnerable". Somewhere along the way, we got twisted with some weird "individual choice" logic of, "if someone wants to die, let them".

I do believe that if there is a chance for someone to be better or become better (and this is with respect to mental illness, depression, etc in this case), how you treat someone properly is to manifest and help them in getting better. We're failing our populace here, in a sick way. How we treat people shouldn't be "oh well, nothing can be done, here's a bullet, bite it you scum"

The fact that this bill goes past the elderly, even to anyone with a disability and a subtle pressure of "you know what, you could just end this all *wink, wink* is scandalous in and of itself. Its bad enough with the elderly and basically culling off our surviving population over retirement age. Someone is in soiled clothing, has no family, no money, can barely walk. They need help, not death.

Theres threads on this forum about how when people wake up to the abuses that trans kids are being put through, there will be a reckoning. This is frankly in the same vein of medical malpractice.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Even the Native flag don't give a rat about Justin.

https://twitter.com/Harry__Faulkner/status/1564294849716785152

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

A man named Mohammad Jamal Shned Al-Dulaimi is assaulting local women enjoying the walking trails at Kearney Lake Dam Trail and other trails in the HRM, Nova Scotia area.

Halifax Regional Police

Police charge man in relation to sexual assault and criminal harassment incidents Police have laid charges in relation to nine incidents where a man sexually assaulted or criminally harassed women...

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I think that its a partial release valve in a sense. Let old people kill themselves if they "want", save the tax payer money. Its still fucked up though.

I agree. I'm not even fully against euthanasia but I think the possibility of people being denied life saving treatments for economic reasons is a real concern. My province didn't even have a residential hospice to serve its largest metro area until a few years ago. I feel like you would need to have top notch palliative care accessible to everyone in a very timely fashion before being able to justify euthanasia being available.

 

[Catler]

Another province down and forced into the federal carbon tax scheme.

https://www.saltwire.com/halifax/news/local/federal-carbon-tax-coming-to-nova-scotia-houstons-plea-rejected-100767414/

https://archive.ph/1nTDY

A man named Mohammad Jamal Shned Al-Dulaimi is assaulting local women enjoying the walking trails at Kearney Lake Dam Trail and other trails in the HRM, Nova Scotia area.

He's only 18 too, so you know he's got a good long life of being a sex pest ahead of him. I'd say I'm glad he's an adult and won't get protected by the youth justice system, but let's be real, dude will get a few years at the very most anyway.

You'll definitely be hearing his name again.

 

[wry wrangler]

So, uh, I've been concerned about the Trudeau government's plan in place to outlaw the sale of new ICE cars in Canada beginning in 2035. I'm aware the consensus may be that Trudeau deliberately picked a date far enough out that he won't have to worry about achieving it. Originally 2040 but yeah whatever. However, I haven't been able to find any evidence of any politician or political party promising to scrap these plans if elected to form a government. Even Pierre Poilievre, who has pledged to eliminate carbon taxes and gas taxes and to expand exports of oil and gas, hasn't actually promised to rescind the scheduled ban on the sale of gas cars. Not as near as I can tell, anyways.

I don't really want to rehash the argument over electric cars, since almost everyone here knows they're a scam. However, are any of you confident any future government will terminate Trudeau's idiotic electric vehicle mandate?

 

[Never Scored]

So, uh, I've been concerned about the Trudeau government's plan in place to outlaw the sale of new ICE cars in Canada beginning in 2035. I'm aware the consensus may be that Trudeau deliberately picked a date far enough out that he won't have to worry about achieving it. Originally 2040 but yeah whatever. However, I haven't been able to find any evidence of any politician or political party promising to scrap these plans if elected to form a government. Even Pierre Poilievre, who has pledged to eliminate carbon taxes and gas taxes and to expand exports of oil and gas, hasn't actually promised to rescind the scheduled ban on the sale of gas cars. Not as near as I can tell, anyways.

I don't really want to rehash the argument over electric cars, since almost everyone here knows they're a scam. However, are any of you confident any future government will terminate Trudeau's idiotic electric vehicle mandate?

The goal is to actually have most people not have cars. It is not sustainable for everyone on a planet with 8 billion people to have a vehicle. They are going to become a luxury for the rich. The electrical grid can't even sustain the number of electric cars required to replace the number of gas ones currently on the road. Just look at the current situation in California, they are asking people not to charge their cars during the heatwave because the grid cannot handle it, and that's with gas cars still in the mix. There is also not enough currently known lithium on the planet to replace all gas cars with electric ones. Even if we kept gas cars, we would eventually run out of gas as it is a finite resource and cars running on pure ethenol would eat up vast swaths of farmland and be prohibitively expensive to run. This story was always going to end with you, or maybe your kids' generation as I'm talking more 30-40 years out, not having a personal car. There is no way to make is feasible for everyone to have their own car long term. There are not enough resources to keep that going indefinitely. They just don't want to say that part out loud because they know it will piss you off.

They also want to corral people into cities because it is not feasible to provide the public transport required when everyone in every far flung towns does not have a car. People have expectations for a certain level of service from government and they cannot provide it to place like Trepassey, Newfoundland now when everyone has a car. Can you imagine the headache to try and provide services to those people if none of them had a car?

There will be no law stating you have to live in the city or you cannot have a car. There's just going to be a point where individual cars get so expensive you won't be able to afford one and you're going to have to deal with a one-two hour walk each way to get groceries or move to a population centre.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

It is not sustainable for everyone on a planet with 8 billion people to have a vehicle. They are going to become a luxury for the rich.

It's kind of ridiculous statement, Canada is not the world and the free market dictates whether you can or cannot own a car.
It's really all about control, freedom of movement is one of the last freedoms the west has left and Electric cars are the death of it.
No freedom of movement means not escaping the country without permission, not associating with the wrong class of people and being completely dependent on state/corporate controlled media to know what's happening outside of your hive. It's an often ignored property of dystopian stories.

 

[Never Scored]

It's kind of ridiculous statement, Canada is not the world and the free market dictates whether you can or cannot own a car.

Reread my post. I am saying the free market will dictate not everyone will be able to have a car as both electric cars and gas cars will eventually run into resource issues. It's totally out of the hands of government altogether.

All I'm saying about the Canadian government is they do not want you to know that is going to happen.

 

[wry wrangler]

That's simply false. There's plenty of oil and there always has been. On the other hand, there's not even close to enough lithium and other rare earth minerals to provide electric cars to satisfy market demand for all vehicles, nevermind the inferior capabilities of electric vehicles. That's why it's essential that the ban on the sale of new ICE cars be overturned. But I haven't heard any commitment by any politician, not even Pierre Poilievre, to do so.

 

[Never Scored]

That's simply false. There's plenty of oil and there always has been.

Do you not believe the oil supply is finite? What is false about it?

On the other hand, there's not even close to enough lithium and other rare earth minerals to provide electric cars to satisfy market demand for all vehicles

I said this in my post if you care to actually read it.

 

[wry wrangler]

In a literal sense, sure. There's a finite amount of oil in the Earth. But at present rates of extraction and use, it will be many many lifetimes before the oil comes even close to running out. In human terms, there's a nearly-infinite amount of oil. Much of it is currently inaccessible, but technology can and will continue to improve to enable us to access oil currently inaccessible. The total oil that's been extracted from the Earth throughout the industrial period is only a tiny fraction of all oil in the planet.

 

[Catler]

This may be a bit off topic, but there’s nowhere else to talk about Canadian stuff, so just how bad is Winnipeg and Manitoba in general?

I’ve never been there or anywhere close to there, but people make it out to be the absolute worst part of the country, a shithole where you’re definitely going to get hurt.

All you ever hear are stories about just how bad it is, but most of the people telling them have never been there. Does the city and province live up to this reputation or is it just a stupid meme?

 

[Butterschmalz]

I’ve never been there or anywhere close to there, but people make it out to be the absolute worst part of the country, a shithole where you’re definitely going to get hurt.

Get hurt? Like in a fight? he he.

We lived there for a few years. Still got relatives there. Ok we lived a few hours away from Winnipeg in a small town. Went to Winnipeg for shopping (Costco) and taking flights (Airport). If I d be single I d probably would pick Winnipeg. Cheap rent more jobs all the services and a bunch of Natives. You probably can say its a little bit rough (check the crime map). I ve just seen drunk natives hanging around the liquor store. My uncle claimed he seen one taking a shit in bright daylight right on the street. Ok. I had my old car parked in some shitty hotel parking lot for 3 weeks. Nothing happened to it.
I wouldnt live there with family, I d prefer the small town school for the lack of diversity. Small town Manitoba is almost white with the occasional Philipino community. Low wages though probably some of the lowest in the country, BUT cheap housing! Drunk driving is pretty common too so watch out, on the other hand traffic is pretty nice and easy. Rough prairie winters and a bunch of Mennonites who are all related to each other. We seriously thinking moving back because its a quite nice environment for young families. So yeah I m all for Manitoba.

 

[OutInTheRain]

South side of Winnipeg is alright, it's the north end that's dangerous.