Canada is a failed state

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Canadian journalism.

...isn't this from like, 2015? I swear I saw that exact video years ago.

But I do believe the dairy industry protectionist policies forcing dairy farmers to dump milk, are still in place.

 

[CFC-12]

I know I just meant that at least the meme lolbertarian party gets some kind of popular appeal / support. Even if the party is ultimately fake and gay.

PPC can't even manage that.

The PPC came in at the right time and place to capitalize off covid and Trudeau's incompetence but failed to do so in any meaningful way. They had some legitimate momentum in 2019 but it's just petered out from there and they've fallen into irrelevancy. I think the PPC is the right concept but Bernier is just not the guy to do it. He's trying to be a populist but isn't charming or charismatic enough for it to get any real traction. I feel like the party could work and at least achieve some level of relevancy, like a weird right wing mirror version of the NDP, but Bernier isn't the guy whose gonna do that.

Canadian journalism.

Journos don't know how cows work.

But I do believe the dairy industry protectionist policies forcing dairy farmers to dump milk, are still in place.

Yeah, supply management is still a thing. Ostensibly it's for maintaining "stable" (read: higher) prices for consumers and a consistent supply of dairy, but the end result is just that dairy farmers make boatloads of cash while also wasting a lot of perfectly good product that could lower costs for consumers or be exported to foreign markets. Which is especially dumb considering we import far more dairy products than we export:

There is one pretty big variable to consider though: Canada does not actually pay direct monetary subsidies to dairy farmers. The supply management system IS the subsidy. Allowing the restriction of supply sort of keeps farming profitable enough that the government doesn't have to prop up the dairy industry with federal money if prices tank or there's a disease outbreak or something. Compare with the US or UK, where their respective feds just throw subsidy checks (read: your tax dollars) at farmers to make sure they keep producing milk or eggs or whatever fucking commodity. That's the whole reason we have this sort of weird milk-based OPEC thing going on.

I don't really know enough about economics to determine if supply management or direct subsidies are the better option for the end consumer, because either way, money comes out of your pocket to prop up an industry.

 

[Slap47]

Canadian Taxpayer Federation supports Boomers paying no taxes.

 

[stupid frog]

America First

>he doesn't know

 

[Ser Prize]

You'll never fix the system from the inside.

Quebec hates the rest of Canada more than the sane Canadians hate jeets. They'd suck migrant Hatian cock because they can half-assed speak Fr*nch before they helped a white anglo or mick-blooded leaf.

People who pretend 'le based quebec' really need to get this through their skull.

 

[Lord Xenu]

Journos don't know how cows work.

Yeah you have to milk them, they get infections in their udders and other issues if they aren't milked regularly. He might've got some unexpectedly good cows. This happens sometimes. It's better to have more of your quota, than less. The feds will take your quota, or reduce it. So you have to overestimate. IDK if 30,000 litres is excessive but it doesnt sound ridiculous for a big operation. My assumption is that was 30,000L over the season, so every time he delivered he's dumped some.
IDK anything about dairy though that's just what I gather from hearing the old timer chat. This was the same way tobacco quotas worked, which I know slightly more about.

 

[OutInTheRain]

Yeah you have to milk them, they get infections in their udders and other issues if they aren't milked regularly. He might've got some unexpectedly good cows. This happens sometimes. It's better to have more of your quota, than less. The feds will take your quota, or reduce it. So you have to overestimate. IDK if 30,000 litres is excessive but it doesnt sound ridiculous for a big operation. My assumption is that was 30,000L over the season, so every time he delivered he's dumped some.
IDK anything about dairy though that's just what I gather from hearing the old timer chat. This was the same way tobacco quotas worked, which I know slightly more about.

The big Dairies buy the contracts to produce x numbers of liters per year. Think Farmers, Scottsburn, Dairyland etc. Those companies then subcontract farmers to provide x amount of milk. That is for the ones the dairies don't own outright. I believe it's an auction for the Federal contract every few years. But no one ever bids for it, because no one can compete with established companies.

 

[kickingstones]

...isn't this from like, 2015? I swear I saw that exact video years ago.

But I do believe the dairy industry protectionist policies forcing dairy farmers to dump milk, are still in place.

The quota system is the only thing protecting Canadian farmers from being swallowed up by American milk which would put the majority of Canadian diary farmers out of business.

Any farmer who produces 30,000 liters over there quota is retarded. This propaganda to abolish quota and it'll lead to the destruction of thousand of Canadian jobs. That'll once there gone they will never comeback.

And if we as a country are ever in a real crisis who's going to feed us. America's going to feed itself first. You cant rely on other countries to feed ourselves.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

The quota system is the only thing protecting Canadian farmers from being swallowed up by American milk which would put the majority of Canadian diary farmers out of business.

Any farmer who produces 30,000 liters over there quota is retarded. This propaganda to abolish quota and it'll lead to the destruction of thousand of Canadian jobs. That'll once there gone they will never comeback.

And if we as a country are ever in a real crisis who's going to feed us. America's going to feed itself first. You cant rely on other countries to feed ourselves.

100% this is why I am in favour of the milk quota. Carney will fold to Trump like a cheap suit abolishing it and Pierre will cut it because "muh socialism".

At least Andrew Scheer (despite being a low energy Jeb! tier cuck), was firmly in favour of the Milk Quota system.

Also lol at the Working Senior Tax cut (was it Pierre or Carney who proposed it) since all those retail jobs that Seniors could do in their elderly years are being taken over by Jeets.

 

[karaokeman]

You'll never fix the system from the inside.

Quebec hates the rest of Canada more than the sane Canadians hate jeets. They'd suck migrant Hatian cock because they can half-assed speak Fr*nch before they helped a white anglo or mick-blooded leaf.

Authentic Quebecois nationalism is European and Catholic, their symbol is the Sacred Heart of Jesus, and they're totally opposed to mass immigration, they're further right of Trump, and they're not Zionists.

The Bloc/CAQ are only interested in like French language enforcement, they're totally liberal in every other way.

There was an attempt to bridge the Catholic right-wing in Quebec with English Canada almost a decade ago but it just doesn't work, because English Canada can't even agree on a common English identity.

The problem has always been English Canada really, the right-wing here could never rally on a common British American heritage, almost every far-right Canadian figure has tried this but failed.

 

[PhoBingas]

People who pretend 'le based quebec' really need to get this through their skull.

They despise Alberta and everyone in it but still piss and moan that they don't get enough of their oil and gas money.

The Bloc/CAQ are only interested in like French language enforcement, they're totally liberal in every other way.

Exactly. Back during the original referendum, they wanted to split from Canada and be their own country, but still wanted tax kickbacks from the other province. Liberals with a different special interest group and a slightly different coat of paint then the cons.
*Edit because it ate half my first quoted post.

 

[CFC-12]

100% this is why I am in favour of the milk quota. Carney will fold to Trump like a cheap suit abolishing it and Pierre will cut it because "muh socialism".

At least Andrew Scheer (despite being a low energy Jeb! tier cuck), was firmly in favour of the Milk Quota system.

It's actually a big part of why eggs are still cheap in Canada despite a carton in America going for like $6 USD right now. Farms are financially stable enough that they don't have to charge out the ass for what limited supply they have as the result of bird flu, and we don't have to shovel millions of dollars into the money furnace to sustain operations after one bad season. And it's not like milk at the grocery store in Canada is noticeably more expensive than the US. Paying an extra 50 cents for a gallon of milk or carton of eggs in Canada isn't a terrible deal considering America spends something like ~$150 per person a year on dairy subsidies and they're STILL getting fucked by high prices right now.

 

[Hokuriku]

The quota system is the only thing protecting Canadian farmers from being swallowed up by American milk which would put the majority of Canadian diary farmers out of business.

Any farmer who produces 30,000 liters over there quota is retarded. This propaganda to abolish quota and it'll lead to the destruction of thousand of Canadian jobs. That'll once there gone they will never comeback.

And if we as a country are ever in a real crisis who's going to feed us. America's going to feed itself first. You cant rely on other countries to feed ourselves.

If I could get French butter for less than $30 a stick it'd still be worth it. It's not just the States being artificially shut out of the country, though everyone likes to conveniently sidestep that.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Bloc is so fucking gay.

Also, lel.

 

[Brutality]

Bloc is so fucking gay.

Also, lel.
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Do you really expect anything else from them at this point? After everyone they've run defense for over the past decade?

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Do you really expect anything else from them at this point? After everyone they've run defense for over the past decade?

I just find it funny it's Globe and mail making a fuss. It's like MSNBC of Canada.

 

[EscapeVorkuta]

John A. MacDonald should have mustered up enough military force to pressure the French Canadians to shut the fuck up and learn their place in Canada. How do these frog eating fucks get to have their cake and eat it too at the expense of Western Canada? Canada has too many "minorities". Our ancestors would have done us a favor if they just completely eradicated the "natives" (really Siberian Asians that crossed a land bridge and arrived here like everybody else).

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

John A. MacDonald should have mustered up enough military force to pressure the French Canadians to shut the fuck up and learn their place in Canada. How do these frog eating fucks get to have their cake and eat it too at the expense of Western Canada? Canada has too many "minorities". Our ancestors would have done us a favor if they just completely eradicated the "natives" (really Siberian Asians that crossed a land bridge and arrived here like everybody else).

British did it first. If American Revolution had failed, USA would basically be the east coast only.

 

[Koby_Fish]

Real Chinada hours in Markham.

Chink liberal MP / obvious PRC plant advocates for a political opponent to be kidnapped, brought to the Chinese consulate, and extradited to the mainland. Can you feel the Canada Strong vibes yet? Still not fired by Carney, of course.

Yeah, Paul Chiang, born in PAKISTAN yet somehow beholden to the CCP/PRC. I have to wonder where he got pozzed at and how. Same motherfucker that helped draft the gun control legislation that the Liberals put forth after the Port a pique shooting a few years ago in Nova Scotia, by a deranged white narcissistic psychopath wannabe-RCMP named Gabriel Wortman. And Carney's gonna keep him on. That just shows you how pozzed Carney is.

OH btw, I found out China and Pakistan are bigtime in Bed. Today. So yeah, now it all makes fucking sense that Paul Chiang is pozzed by PRC.

Wow, I live in Markham. Yeah it's pretty much the talk of the town right now and many of us aren't happy. A lot of people left Hong Kong in the 90s and it's getting really fucking embarrassing that this shit is happening all over again. Riots will ensue here. The only good thing is it's one of the few parts in Canada where it's not fully indian yet and there's not many homeless people here either, so i consider it lucky to live here and not brampton or downtown Toronto.

What's really crazy is Paul Chiang is so overconfident that he'll get rigged in by Chicoms (again?) that he thinks he's going to keep his seat.

If this incident isn't enough to turn the riding, tell all the Christians and Sikhs and Hindus and Jews and Muslims that the Liberal Finance Committee was seriously considering stripping tax exempt charity status from all Houses of Worship which would mean they'd all have to pay a "Revocation tax" which means their land value and building value plus any other properties would be taxed at 100%. So if a House of Worship is sitting on 3 million dollars worth of land, they'd have to sell it all to pay it if the members don't have deep pockets. I'm sure the Sikhs in the smaller temples won't appreciate that.

How the fuck is Paul Chiang still a sitting MP? How the fuck is he not in handcuffs? How deep is China's dick in Carney's ass?

Carney has China's dick in balls deep. Like the balls are actually inside his asshole deep. As such, he's letting Paul Chiang ride it out. Carney could throw his ass out yesterday if he wanted too. That just tells you all you need to know about the both of them. Fucking Carney acting like a simple apology absolves everything. Fuck 'em.

Canadians voted for this government knowing of the Liberal Party’s corruption in both 2019 and 2021 with history poised to repeat itself in 2025. Mark Carney may not be Justin Trudeau, but he is a different shade of lipstick on the same pig. They will scream and curse Trump’s name because it is far more easier for them to assuage their bruised egos than is to address the underlying issues that threaten to tear this nation asunder. It is for that very reason that I believe that Canadians deserve to be mocked and scorned for their complacency and boundless stupidity. I have never seen a people so utterly unworthy of even basic respect. If they continue down this path, then they deserve to have their nation stripped away from them to become the fifty-first state.

I know a person who is from Quebec, for whom most of their life the concept of voting Conservative was anathema. They voted in turn Liberal, NDP, Bloc. But now what the liberals have been doing for the past decade with the assistance of not only the Bloc but the NDP - especially with the attempt to remove tax-exempt charitable status from Houses of Worship - has them seriously considering either not voting at all or voting Conservative.

I hasten to add that this person is the poster child for the Reddit sub r/raisedbynarcissists, and their parents were liberal/bloc, and if there's that many narcissists/Cluster B Clusterfucks and people raised by narcissists and other Cluster B Clusterfucks (thus broken) in ol Quebec, it makes the political landscape there make a lot more sense.
On the whole though, I find that reluctance to consider conservatives hinges mainly on the successful campaigns of the NDP and Liberals (and Union newsletters) to scare people into believing absolute batshit nonsense conspiracy theories about what a Conservative government would do, mainly the "they're goona take away your gibs-me-dat!" I have a very few pozzed relatives who for them it's half that, half "Fuck you, Mom and Dad!" because their parents, while nominally Conservative, weren't great people. Like, ultra helicopter borderline/schizoaffective/histrionic types. (and yeah I know schizoaffective isn't a cluster B, but it's still a clusterfuck).

I think it's no coincidence that mentally ill people tend to vote Left (not all the time as there's conservative nutjobs too) and thus left wing governments tend to make it difficult either by inaction or bureaucracy to get mental help to perpetuate a voting base. Plus, the mentally ill/drug addicted criminal homeless are the witting or unwitting footsoldiers of the Revolution.

I'm Canadian. I've been a staunch NDP voter my entire voting life because my MLA does good for my community/town and I like their policies. However, this election I'm torn. I don't want to vote NDP because they're retarded, and I don't want to vote Liberal because I'm not retarded.

I've been doing a lot of research about PP and I just really don't know. A really close friend of mine has been suckling on PP's pp, spouting off about how he's going to "fix" Canada, how he's going to make it so we can buy houses and get the gangs/guns/junkies/drugs off the street, how he's going to fix everything Trudeau ruined. I think my friend isn't looking at things objectively. PP is a career politician who has only managed to get one bill passed in his entire career. All PP does is say "axe the tax" or some other catchy slogan. I don't know, he rubs me the wrong way and I don't entirely trust him to lead our country out of the abysmal shit hole Trudeau dug us into. The Conservatives have historically been all about helping big business and not the little guys. I read the entire Conservative platform, and I like what it has to say.

But, it seems like voting anything but Conservative this election would be me throwing my vote away.

I live near a large city with a temperate climate year-round so it's homeless central. The down town core is a shell of its former self. Businesses are dying, staples/gems of the community are closing their doors because of lasting consequences due to the pandemic on top of the homeless/junkie crisis and greedy landlords. I want my city back. I'm tired of stepping on human shit in the street and walking past people zoinked out of their minds on fentanyl.

Can someone more versed in PP man tell me why he's the best choice?

I can understand where you're coming from, but the Liberals and the NDP are just too far gone at this point, regardless of the efforts of your individual MP.

It was the Liberals and NDP that enabled the excess printing of money that made inflation soar so high that it hadn't been this high since the 1980s. Do you want a government that has so little understanding of economics that they would do this - or even worse, they know full well what they are doing, and are doing it ON PURPOSE for some sinister reason - like selling our asses wholesale to the Red Chinese? It was the Libs and NDP that cucked out to China to let gamblers, drug runners, and money launderers buy up property in Canada, mainly the Lower Mainland/Vancouver, and got kickbacks in return. See: Sam Cooper's book Wilful Blindness, where you get to find out just how deep China's dick was in the BC NDP EVEN BACK THEN during Harcourt and Clark. Clark had to step down over "Casino-Gate" which the media barely scratched the surface of in regards to Red China's involvement in Canadian Corruption - both at the provincial and federal (Liberal) levels.

It hasn't changed in BC for the better, either, as David Eby the premier has an unironically PRC Communist Party supporting chink as his ADVISOR.

I've been to a PP rally and it wasn't 'just slogans' although slogans make things easier to remember. He gave the example of 10 apples and 10 dollars (in a hypothetical closed economy). In that scenario, it means each apple would cost one dollar. If you have 20 dollars but still only 10 apples, that doesn't make you richer. It just means each apple now costs 2 dollars, because when the amount of money outstrips the goods available to buy with money, you get inflation. He told them this would happen (printing money to spend it), they did it anyway, and voila, we got inflation. The Liberals and NDP refuse to comprehend this.

Don't let the Libs/NDP scare you with the idea that the Conservatives will take away the gibs-me-dats. Most of that is just bullshit conspiracy theory they've been peddling for YEARS. They wouldn't need to. Just look at all the waste from the Arrivecan (Arrivescam) scandal. Multiple People paid to do precisely 0 work. I watched the committees.

Hell, it was the late Jim Flaherty, Harper's Finance Minster, who had a severely disabled son, that put in the RDSPs (Registered Disability Savings Plans) to provide for those who are on disability. The government matches contributions plus gives grants for it.

Do you really want a government whose ass is full of ChiCom dick?

If for no other reason, remember a quote attributed to Mark Twain:

"Politicians are a lot like diapers. They should be changed frequently, and for the same reasons."

 

[Koby_Fish]

It's actually a big part of why eggs are still cheap in Canada despite a carton in America going for like $6 USD right now. Farms are financially stable enough that they don't have to charge out the ass for what limited supply they have as the result of bird flu, and we don't have to shovel millions of dollars into the money furnace to sustain operations after one bad season. And it's not like milk at the grocery store in Canada is noticeably more expensive than the US. Paying an extra 50 cents for a gallon of milk or carton of eggs in Canada isn't a terrible deal considering America spends something like ~$150 per person a year on dairy subsidies and they're STILL getting fucked by high prices right now.

if we didn't have dumbass egg quotas we could be selling Americans our eggs. The only reason there's an egg shortage in US is they're slaughtering hens in the millions because of Avian Flu. Probably more than is actually necessary.

Eggstra 50 cents? No no it's WAY more than that. Egg prices have jumped in Canada too, due to supply management and carbon tax. Can't let Alberta hens freeze to death in the barn. Nowadays we're lucky if non-organic non-free-range eggs are 5 bucks a dozen. The organic shit's more like 7-11 dollars a dozen.

The milk prices are ridiculous too (cheapest we can get is like 5.50 for 4 L/1 gallon) and all this hurts the poor. I'd rather my tax dollars got thrown at the farmers directly like they do in USA, for cheaper food for the poor, than force the poor to choose between milk/eggs and rent.