Canada is a failed state

[Aljam]

It's becoming harder to bury my head in the sand and not sperg out about not being able to find gainful employment, cost of living, and being able to afford things. We have too many temporary workers in this country and the international students want to stay on past their visa expiration dates. Part time work is competitive, my field oversaturated in die hires, colleges crammed with too many people, even my last bet on factory work again is looking dismal. Imagine trying to start a business in this economy... Shit sucks

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

It's becoming harder to bury my head in the sand and not sperg out about not being able to find gainful employment, cost of living, and being able to afford things. We have too many temporary workers in this country and the international students want to stay on past their visa expiration dates. Part time work is competitive, my field oversaturated in die hires, colleges crammed with too many people, even my last bet on factory work again is looking dismal. Imagine trying to start a business in this economy... Shit sucks

Landscaping work and hard construction jobs still available since jeets don't want to touch those.

 

[kim foxx]

But the US actually tries to protect it's borders unlike Canada, so they all just stick around here and do further damage while waiting for their chance.

if you think america is any less jeeted you are wrong. same elite driven migration policies apply here as well, it's just harder to see because its easier to dilute them in a society of 330 million, half nonwhite, than a country of 41 million where white people were 80% of the country up until recently.

 

[Free the Pedos]

Spoiler: Religious slap fight

As a former Jew who turned himself over to Jesus Christ it saddens/angers me how full of hate they are. Jesus was right Jews are the chosen people of Satan not God. The view the Goyim as slaves and when their false Messiah comes (the Antichrist) each Jew will have 1000 of them. Don’t get me started on the ritualistic child abuse that is circumsision

Spoiler: Religious slap fight

If you’re a Christian, how can you view circumcision as mutilation since it was commanded by God until it was superseded by the New Testament? Was it mutilqrion until 33 AD but fine before?
Worst fake Jew ever.

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Go abroad, get some pricing info from south of the border. Some places will provide it, and in all honesty she'll be in, in a week.

If this is in any way a time sensitive go abroad not only will you get to see a doctor before its to late but their first repose won't be "That terrible, have you thought about killing yourself"

I’m curious about how widespread the practice of going south for healthcare is, how it works and how people pay for it. Do you purchase a commercial plan for a few months if the cost of care is really high?

 

[OutInTheRain]

Spoiler: Religious slap fight

If you’re a Christian, how can you view circumcision as mutilation since it was commanded by God until it was superseded by the New Testament? Was it mutilqrion until 33 AD but fine before?
Worst fake Jew ever.

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I’m curious about how widespread the practice of going south for healthcare is, how it works and how people pay for it. Do you purchase a commercial plan for a few months if the cost of care is really high?

You're going to be out of pocket if you head south. Places won't insure you if you don't live in the states. There might be a Canadian insurer that does help offset costs. The people I know who've gone south, just call and get a quote. Then when they are done, they receive a bill. It can be expensive, but it's better than waiting 8 months to see an oncologist.

 

[Ser Prize]

Bailing to the US is the goal for many Canadians, so it shouldn't be a surprise that people who have no ties and zero respect for Canada would scurry down there at the first opportunity.
But the US actually tries to protect it's borders unlike Canada, so they all just stick around here and do further damage while waiting for their chance.

USA only tries to protect it's borders from white people. If you're brown enough democrats will defend you with armed goons while you waltz in.

 

[DiscoRodeo]

For a short while it was, back when the population was several million less and 15% whiter. You screw with any country's numbers like that and social services will buckle.

Canada’s population hits 41M months after breaking 40M threshold

These assholes decided to add another Toronto's worth of population without building a major metropolitan city's worth of infrastructure to support the population.

Honestly, I don't want to argue too much here, but Canada also had like a fraction of the US's population (try universal healthcare with a country the size of the US + black people and fat people) and Canadian healthcare was also cope.

Healthcare here is failing for a few reasons- such as defunding it (thanks Ontario conservatives) before the pandemic, pandemic burnout, adding in several million migrants, and also because Canada is just too expensive, student debt is too great, and Americans pay more (doesnt help we have no national identity to hold people here, thanks Trudeau)

Any one of these issues could be bad alone, but all together and well, we're where we are now I guess- fucked.

 

[Uncle Tom's Condo]

Spoiler: Religious slap fight

If you’re a Christian, how can you view circumcision as mutilation since it was commanded by God until it was superseded by the New Testament? Was it mutilqrion until 33 AD but fine before?
Worst fake Jew ever.

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I’m curious about how widespread the practice of going south for healthcare is, how it works and how people pay for it. Do you purchase a commercial plan for a few months if the cost of care is really high?

Generally, anything done in the US is not going to be covered. Keep in mind that each province and territory has their own health scheme, so it's not like the NHS in Limeyland. Some provinces, notably BC, sends patients across the border and pays for stuff like cancer treatment that BC doesn't have the space or capacity to provide. There's a pretty good sized cash-only MRI industry in Buffalo where Ontarioans can go and pay $535 (per first google result) to skip the 8-14 week wait in-province. Other border cities in the US so the same, but the proximity to Toronto makes it the largest market for Canadian cash payers. I'm sure you can pay cash for other massively backlogged services, but MRI seems to the most common.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

no national identity to hold people here, thanks Trudeau

The National identity that we have is the Irish and Scots who were kicked out of the Bogs and Highlands by inbred elites who wanted to utilize the timber resources of Canada to build up the Royal Navy, Now we are too poor and have no other options except to ride out the storm

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Canada has never had difficult period in its history. It was always bailed by either Britain or USA. It's a country of pussies who come to expect certain things without ever having to die for it.

 

[Stanley Ipkiss]

if you think america is any less jeeted you are wrong. same elite driven migration policies apply here as well, it's just harder to see because its easier to dilute them in a society of 330 million, half nonwhite, than a country of 41 million where white people were 80% of the country up until recently.

USA only tries to protect it's borders from white people. If you're brown enough democrats will defend you with armed goons while you waltz in.

Both of you have no idea how easy it is to legally get into Canada compared to the US.

At least in the US you need to get an interview for every single Visa. Canada hands them out like candy with zero contact between applicant and Visa officer, and there's a thriving industry solely based on exploiting immigration loopholes.

I apologize I don't have the numbers handy but Canada's population has grown by about 3 million in the past 4 years. That's an 8% increase, with the vast majority of that being immigration from India.
I'm willing to be thoroughly embarrassed if I'm wrong but I bet the US doesn't have anything close to this in terms of immigration-fueled population growth over the same period.

Also just take a look at Indian social media and it's not the US all these immigration consultants are shilling for. It's good old Canindia. Why do you think that is?
Every trip to Pearson just feels like I'm watching World War Z happen in real time.

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

I will never stop laughing at the irony of "why don't you just leave?" when other people doing the same is the exact reason Canadians are in this mess.

Mass migration causes problems regardless of where it's to or from. Better to try and kick the parasites out of your own fucking homeland than to be a hypocrite and become one yourself.

Buddy we can virtue signal til the end of times but the reality is the only way to force a government to fix shit is people voting with their feet .

I have been in your place overpriced real estate, wages too low for anything more than bare survival and constant stress. Government didn't gave a shit because there was large mass of unemployed people that their buddies could use and abuse well 15 years later they are begging people to come back and now trying to get moar migrants from africa to come and work who would rather leave immediately for Europe once they set food in our country. Things improved greatly compared to what it was before i left . I am telling you what works.

We had protests, politicians shot, oligarchs shot, fucking rocket or two fired at the parlament, all sorts of shit. But once people started leaving en masse and stopped having kids is when they decided to try to solve some of the problems. Because at the end of the day they are paying for their cushy lives and their salaries. No taxpayers no money for you. Simple as.

 

[Stanley Ipkiss]

Buddy we can virtue signal til the end of times but the reality is the only way to force a government to fix shit is people voting with their feet .I have been in your place overpriced real estate, wages too low for anything more than bare survival and constant stress. Government didn't gave a shit because there was large mass of unemployed people that their buddies could use and abuse well 15 years later they are begging people to come back and now trying to get moar migrants from africa to come and work who would rather leave immediately for Europe once they set food in our country. Things improved greatly compared to what it was before i left . I am telling you what works. We had protests, politicians shot, oligarchs shot, fucking rocket or two fired at the parlament, all sorts of shit. But once people started leaving en masse and stopped having kids is when they decided to try to solve some of the problems. Because at the end of the day they are paying for their cushy lives and their salaries. No taxpayers no money for you. Simple as.

So basically "fuck you got mine" right? What percentage of people can just pack up and leave any one country? Where would they go? What happens to the countries they go to? None of that matters as long as you take care of number 1 right? Well congrats you're no better than a Pajeet. Hell you're probably worse because you know firsthand the effect of what you're doing. Call that virtue signaling if you want but the truth is that it's a selfish move and doesn't solve the problem.

Sure there's a moral component to what I'm saying, but beyond that it's stupid and unsustainable. I don't know what country you're from, but it's silly to assume everyone leaving in droves will fix every country's problems. Everyone leaving Slovakia is not same as everyone leaving Canada.
There's 1.4 billion people in India. The country could lose 100m people before they even start to notice. On the flipside, this also means that Canada and the rest of the G7 will have an endless supply of incompetent scammers streaming in to replace anyone who leaves, and this is just from India. Where in that scenario do you see it getting better for us? And after how many years?

What happens to the unfortunate Canadians who can't leave? Just stay and live in squalor until you make your triumphant return after everything is magically fixed?

Also contrary to what some people may believe, a huge sudden influx of foreigners is never good for the locals of any country, even if the foreigners are from richer countries. Sure the local economy sees a short term injection of cash, but then the price of everything goes up, infrastructure is more stressed...............hmmm just got a bout of deja vu.

Then there's the final question of what happens when you follow the "just leave" idea to its logical conclusion: Everybody trying to get into the US leaving behind a wasteland of failed states. Then what?

Your first statement is wrong. The only way to get government to fix shit has always been for the people to stand together and make them uncomfortable. The greatest countries in the world aren't what they are today because people fucked off to Antarctica when they weren't happy. They fought those in power to get what they wanted. Case in point a bunch of Kenyans occupied their parliament building a couple days ago because they were not happy about a new tax. That's how you get shit changed, not by leaving and waiting it out.
It's not the easy solution and I can't judge anyone for not going that route, but running away makes everything worse for everyone but you. You can be fine with that but I wouldn't proudly proclaim it.

 

[biggacracka]

For a short while it was

No, it never was

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

So basically "fuck you got mine" right?

That has been the Canadian ethos since 1968, but anyway, the government has encouraged targeted immigration since the early days of confederation. Ottawa encouraged farmers from northern and eastern Europe after the CPR opened up the prairies for settlement, which is why we have large populations of Polish, Ukrainian, etc. descent. We also brought in large numbers of European immigrants after WWII wrecked the continent, leaving a great number of people dispossessed. Everything changed after Ottawa lifted immigration restrictions from non-european countries (who had by that time recovered) and you started seeing more immigrants from India, China, and Africa.

A big difference between then and now was that there wasn't as big a welfare state in the mid-20th century as there is now nor were there as many government regulations at all levels so it was easier to start a business or build infrastructure. There is less motivation to actually be an entrepreneur because big daddy government is salivating at squeezing every tax dollar from your business while propping up state-sponsored oligopolies. What the government effectively wants now are indentured laborers (AKA coolies and peons) to artificially inflate GDP to brag how the nation is booming when it is, in reality, crumbling behind the facade.

Much of this stems from the postwar order the powers that be established, which depends on infinite economic (and therefore population) growth. Unfortunately, aside from the baby boom of the 50s, birthrates across the industrialized world had been dropping as societies urbanize. There is more incentive to have more children when you're living on a farm and need the free labor, but not so much when you're in the city where raising kids is an expensive proposition. With housing and cost-of-living in the cities increasing year by year, Canadians are having fewer children are forgoing it completely as they struggle to even pay the mortgage or rent.

Call it a hunch, but I suspect that this push for mass migration is panic on the government's part because they know that this Ponzi scheme is no longer sustainable. Instead of reassessing their policies, they are flooding the country with Punjabis to keep at the bottom of the pyramid while ignoring the damage it is inflicting on social cohesion. Canadians had long prided ourselves as polite and welcoming, but it is painfully evident that our government has exploited our better nature to nefarious ends. They will react to dissent with accusations of racism and "far-right American" politics as a means to stifle any criticism. However, the problem with this tactic is that people will stop caring at some point. You can only kick a dog so many times before it bites back and goes for the throat.

What exacerbates this is that the government is actively subsidizing corporations to hire only TFWs. Similarly, Indians will only hire Indians, Arabs will hire Arabs, and so forth while the government looks the other way despite anti-discrimination laws. This in turn will breed more resentment among the populace who have lived here their entire lives or immigrants who attained their permanent residency/citizenship through legitimate means. Canadians will likely grow more xenophobic in the coming years and decades as the nation collapses, which the federal government has only itself to blame.

 

[DiscoRodeo]

The National identity that we have is the Irish and Scots who were kicked out of the Bogs and Highlands by inbred elites who wanted to utilize the timber resources of Canada to build up the Royal Navy, Now we are too poor and have no other options except to ride out the storm

I believe in the country we used to be.

What we are now is purposeful, they wanted to erase our history and call it racist and say we had no national identity and that we were a nation of lgbtqtspirit+ brown immigrants from Pakistan.

This is why when they try to call on Canadian nationalism for the military or staying here instead of the US, noone cares anymore. Theres only so many gay pride flags you can take.

I apologize I don't have the numbers handy but Canada's population has grown by about 3 million in the past 4 years.

This is off, but the spirit isn't- yeah its between 400k to 500k yearly since 2021.

I'm willing to be thoroughly embarrassed if I'm wrong but I bet the US doesn't have anything close to this in terms of immigration-fueled population growth over the same period.

The US is about a million plus legal migrants to 2 million yearly.

The difference is the US has a population literally 10x the amount that Canada does, and arguably enough infrastructure for this (in part anyways).

The math doesn't add up for Canada, our rate of immigration is much higher relative to our population of 38 million and the US 334 million.

Things improved greatly compared to what it was before i left . I am telling you what works.

It may or may not work, but yeah- honestly, its the best bet. Its not even "fuck you, got mine", its "theyre fucking with us, dont care, and will continue to fuck with us- count me out" basically.

Sometimes there is no saving the nation. You wouldn't tell someone white to stay in Saffa, would you? Sometimes there is- Spain and Italy got their shit together only after everyone started bailing from the country.

With demographics, thats a separate issue and a harder one to solve, so Im tempted to say that you can't solve it by up and leaving.

But either way, I agree with you here. Tried a lot of stuff, Canada is in a trap currently, and theres better opportunities elsewhere. Stay out while the liberals are in power, honestly. I fought my personal battles during covid, before it, lost friends, burnt ties for speaking out, etc. Sorry, but not dying for these people (I'm not exaggerating, things are that bad with cost of living and people living on the street) or going homeless for them either.

What caused me to leave was a friend who was struggling financially relapsing into heroin, and dying of fentanyl. I blame the stress of his sudden financial burdens and lack of socialization during covid in part. Tough times, social circles suddenly gone, mass societal paranoia, people who should have been there to help with him relapsing- the financial strain the pandemic put him under, him working overnight shifts, etc. The other part is on your addiction itself, but the collapsing economy, especially in his sector, and covid took its own toll on him.

I'm not going to suffer for idiot liberals mistakes. Saw the writing, converted my currency, invested elsewhere to insulate myself financially, left the country for a cheaper Spanish speaking one, picked up, took a job at half the pay, and left.

If you can leave Canada, do it. This isnt for those with families, dependents, etc obviously. This isn't for those who have McJobs (but honestly, maybe it is a call for young men either way). If you do have the opportunity to leave, don't let anyone convince you to stay, not out of nationalism, not out of "youll be just like the Indians", not out of "but what about the boomers retirement fund", not out of "things are getting better, all the brown people are good", or "well well get rid of 40% of them in a few years, so hold out".

Leave.

However, the problem with this tactic is that people will stop caring at some point. You can only kick a dog so many times before it bites back and goes for the throat.

This.

Id also add that the government likely expects most migrants to leave, but the goals probably to milk a ton of them, and hope that even a quarter of them stay permanently as tax monkeys, and theyre willing to burn social cohesion in the meantime as well because retirement is literally a ponzi scheme here.

Failed state shit.

 

[jertzog]

if you think america is any less jeeted you are wrong. same elite driven migration policies apply here as well, it's just harder to see because its easier to dilute them in a society of 330 million, half nonwhite, than a country of 41 million where white people were 80% of the country up until recently.

Multiply numbers by 10x to get a relative idea of what Canada is going through.

 

[Stanley Ipkiss]

This is off, but the spirit isn't- yeah its between 400k to 500k yearly since 2021.

Not sure how off it is. Just took a look at the numbers from StatsCan and it's 3 mil right on the nose. Sure there's some births in there but the vast majority of this increase is from immigration which is just insane.

The US is about a million plus legal migrants to 2 million yearly.

The difference is the US has a population literally 10x the amount that Canada does, and arguably enough infrastructure for this (in part anyways).

The math doesn't add up for Canada, our rate of immigration is much higher relative to our population of 38 million and the US 334 million.

Yeah that tracks. Like I said, if the US had anything close to an 8% population increase in 4 years they would be just as fucked as we are.

Also you're kinda behind the times my friend. We're at 41 million now.

Here's a reddit thread explaining partly why:

https://archive.md/86Nir

It's just really hard to understate how fucking easy it is to enter Canada for any idiot with a pulse

 

[Uncle Tom's Condo]

My mom is in Calgary for a trip this weekend and even she, a nice whiteish liberal, complained about the pajeetery going on there. To quote PPP "Suffer, bish!" you voted for it so eat shit.

 

[Alex Hogendorp]

My mom is in Calgary for a trip this weekend and even she, a nice whiteish liberal, complained about the pajeetery going on there. To quote PPP "Suffer, bish!" you voted for it so eat shit.

Most people I see around here aren't even white either. More Poojeets than there are normal people.