Canada is a failed state

[Romeo]

I am of the opinion that the incompetence of Pierre Poilievre and the Conservative Party was the main contributor to the Liberals' upset victory. Their entire platform was basically "get rid of Trudeau" and his infamous "carbon tax." When Trudeau resigned and the first thing his successor Mark Carney does is remove the carbon tax (archive), Poilievre and the Conservatives did not know how to maneuver around it as they had literally no other key position to rally around. When Trump did his "51st state rhetoric," Poilievre did not have a spine to counter it in a way to target the Liberals for making Canada so weak to face the United States. Ultimately, polling skyrocketed for Carney and the Liberals.

Pierre strikes me as a sort of faux-populist: never goes hard on his pro-Canadian positions and wanted to look as moderate and un-offensive as possible to appease every generation. His biggest detraction was that he still wanted to import 250,000 'jeets as permanent residents into Canada per year (in a decrease cope; archive) which dilutes the differences between him and Carney, making the Conservatives look like Blue Liberals (like the British Tories). Soon, the state-funded media like the CBC and other mainstream media ran article after article stating that Poilievre is some "MAGA ally" (archive) and will become the next "Trump" (archive) because Pierre used some Trump rhetoric like "Canada first," which does not bode well with the growing hatred against Trump among Canadians. Pierre was too weak to refute the accusations even though he is more left-wing than Trump is.

All these factors became Pierre's undoing because now he and the Conservatives are pretty seen as a slower status quo because they were all outmaneuvered by Carney. Carney picked the right time for an election where "Pierre = Trump" rhetoric was high and used it as an advantage. When the entire media and the establishment are against him, Pierre did nothing effective and Canadians saw him as "evil incarnate Drumpf" because he's right of Trudeau despite being a moderate left-winger and voted based on that. Pierre's appeasements failed as the boomers went heavily for the Liberals as they are wigger-retarded. Younger generations did not see Pierre as an effective person that will make change to a dead economy, monstrous housing crisis, and a destroyed healthcare system. Pierre and the Conservatives did not know how to maneuver around Carney's machinations when Carney portrayed himself as a moderate compared to Trudeau.

Because of how frightened the Conservative Party of being called "sexist," "racist," and "homophobic," they could not offer an effective alternative to the Liberals. Understandably, it is an extremely rough position that Pierre is in, and I get it, because all the cards were stacked against him. However, if you cannot whittle yourself out of that situation, what makes people think you can whittle out Canada out of its rock bottom situation that it is in? Trump used the media's attention on him and being called "sexist," "racist," and "homophobic" to his advantage that ultimately won him elections and now he is making the Republican Party, a party that originally despised him, obey his word and command as gospel to shape America as now recovering from its decline and decay.

Canada on the other hand? The nation is beholden to a man who wrote a political manifesto called Values: Building a Better World for All, which a conservative on Reddit summarizes that it is not moral values that Carney is talking about but how a human and his quality of life is worth so little when a state must be totalitarian to save the planet from climate change. In addition, Carney argues that humans are unable to understand this value and this value must be overseen by the state.

Carney advocates in this text a totalitarian system of government in which each and every aspect of a persons life is controlled by powerful, centralized state authority, and to which all personal decisions are subject to ESG/DEI/Carbon Credit metrics. He explicitly advocates for a central bank digital currency linked to social credit scoring to facilitate this.

Carney explicitly states that a decrease in both the quality of life and the quantity of life (IE number of people, years of life lived) is acceptable in pursuit of this broader net-zero agenda, which is granted religious levels of latitude in how it can be imposed. It is effectively positioned as being the new state religion: literally everything in terms of public policy must revolve around achieving net-zero, including how individuals are permitted to invest and spend their own money.

Carney also explicitly states that the peoples of developed, advanced, first-world but carbon-intensive) countries like Canada should "look to the wisdom" of the most impoverished nations in the world when it comes to how they should expect to live under this regime, he explicitly cites Niger, the Central African Republic and similar countries as examples of the standard of living we should expect.

It is an argument for a return to feudalism, and a plan for how such a regime might viably be brought about.

Mark Carney is, in short, a viable candidate for being the literal fucking Antichrist if you believe in that sort of thing.

This subject was never discussed even once by the mainstream media in Canada during the 36 day election campaign, the shortest period permitted by law after he was installed in a Liberal Party leadership contest in which 89% of the vote was in his favour after 350,000 ballots were thrown out and his two anti-establishment challengers disqualified, the rules of which permit foreign citizens who affirm that they reside in Canada and children as young as 14 to cast a ballot. Ultimately roughly 150,000 internal party votes made him our Prime Minister after Justin Trudeau resigned. Mark Carney had never been elected to any previous office.

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And Pierre did not use this source of information against Carney at all.

This story reminds me of the 2020 Taiwan Presidential Election. Polls were favoring the pro-China Kuomintang because Tsai Ing-wen and her pro-Taiwan independence Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) were atrocious in managing Taiwan. Their candidate for president was Han Kuo-yu, who managed to become mayor of Kaohsiung, a DPP stronghold, and thus is seen as a force where many DPP votes would defect to the Kuomintang.

However, the worst event for the Kuomintang and Han had happened, when China introduced the Extradition Act in Hong Kong where criminals would be extradited from the city to the mainland, spawning protests and riots in the millions that China was breaching the one country-two systems again after the 2014 protests and riots. Panic ensued in Taiwan, and anger grew towards Han and the Kuomintang because they were the pro-China party and that Taiwan's sovereignty could be threatened by a Chinese invasion and that the concept of a one country-two systems was dead.

Han and the Kuomintang were utterly trashed in the election, with Tsai winning a landslide of 57% votes. Han was soon forced to step down as mayor of Kaohsiung. Currently, the Kuomintang is in an extremely awkward position where they are Taiwan's only conservative party but with emphasis that Taiwan is a part of China in an island where the Chinese Communist Party is heavily despised. As such, they had only been gaining ground in local elections.

 

[harbringer883]

So what can can we exect? 15 minute city slums? Social credit scores? Rationing? No personal transportation? Censorship?

 

[Betonhaus]

 

[harbringer883]

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we are being replaced

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

All these factors became Pierre's undoing because now he and the Conservatives are pretty seen as a slower status quo because they were all outmaneuvered by Carney.

I would argue that it wasn't so Carney outmaneuvering the Conservatives as it was the failings of the Canadian electorate. One painful lesson that I learned over the past five years is that a plurality of Canadians are lazy and apathetic to the point of willful ignorance because critical thinking is too much for their limited cognition. Poilievre put forth other policy planks like tax cuts and slashing red tape to kickstart resource development and create jobs. However, many libshit boomers don't care because they are A) mostly retired, and B) benefit from a broken system. Of course, they were going to rally behind Carney out of self-interest. "Orange Man bad" provided a convenient fig leaf for their unfettered greed.

Something to note is that Poilievre increased the voter share and the seat count. Meanwhile, the NDP imploded thanks to Jagmeet Singh's greed and ego while the Greens withdrew from several ridings to avoid vote-splitting. Additionally, the Conservative Party's message strongly resonated with the under 35 crowd. They are angry with the libshit Boomers and when you get a cohort of young men with no prospects and no escape, societal unrest follows.

It leaves me to wonder it Carney will put his foot on the gas when it comes to immigration and following through on the proposal to tax home equity. The former will further erode social cohesion and I doubt that the boomers that stood with him will stand to have their nest egg raided. I certainly hope that he has the sheer fucking hubris to do that. Given that Canada has no identity aside from anti-American chauvinism, it will be glorious to see it all crumble of the weight of the federal government's ineptitude.

 

[harbringer883]

I would argue that it wasn't so Carney outmaneuvering the Conservatives as it was the failings of the Canadian electorate. One painful lesson that I learned over the past five years is that a plurality of Canadians are lazy and apathetic to the point of willful ignorance because critical thinking is too much for their limited cognition. Poilievre put forth other policy planks like tax cuts and slashing red tape to kickstart resource development and create jobs. However, many libshit boomers don't care because they are A) mostly retired, and B) benefit from a broken system. Of course, they were going to rally behind Carney out of self-interest. "Orange Man bad" provided a convenient fig leaf for their unfettered greed.

Something to note is that Poilievre increased the voter share and the seat count. Meanwhile, the NDP imploded thanks to Jagmeet Singh's greed and ego while the Greens withdrew from several ridings to avoid vote-splitting. Additionally, the Conservative Party's message strongly resonated with the under 35 crowd. They are angry with the libshit Boomers and when you get a cohort of young men with no prospects and no escape, societal unrest follows.

It leaves me to wonder it Carney will put his foot on the gas when it comes to immigration and following through on the proposal to tax home equity. The former will further erode social cohesion and I doubt that the boomers that stood with him will stand to have their nest egg raided. I certainly hope that he has the sheer fucking hubris to do that. Given that Canada has no identity aside from anti-American chauvinism, it will be glorious to see it all crumble of the weight of the federal government's ineptitude.

The fall of canada will be glorious to observe.

 

[DogPack404]

we are being replaced

"Should have had more babies then!" - Retards who ignore economic and social conditions which punish whites nationwide and prevent us from succeeding or matching even a fraction of immigrants' "excellence" through no fault of our own. At what point can we all come together and admit that the current regime is hostile to our very existence? As white boomers cheer it on and sacrifice their children on the altar of ~diversity and inclusion~

 

[harbringer883]

"Should have had more babies then!" - Retards who ignore economic and social conditions which punish whites nationwide and prevent us from succeeding or matching even a fraction of immigrants' "excellence" through no fault of our own. At what point can we all come together and admit that the current regime is hostile to our very existence? As white boomers cheer it on and sacrifice their children on the altar of ~diversity and inclusion~

Its a ticking time bomb really, and I am all for the day that that bomb explodes.

 

[Thiletonomics]

Yeh, that's precisely why he won't allow it to pop. He will print money like Trudeau on meth.

How long will it take for the CAD to reach a 1:1 exchange rate with the JPY, or even worse, with the KRW?

 

[LeChampion1992]

Since the liberals won, we're going to annex your country. You won't become a state, nor will you be able to vote in our elections. Basically, you and your fellow Canadians will work for us. We will take your resources, and follow our laws.

When we knock on your door, you let us in. We OWN that fucking door.

You try to stop us? We'll knock that fucker down.

Look I fully believe that the American government should foment dissent in Canada and secretly arm and fund right wingers to take over the country's middle provinces and make Alberta 3 states 2 red states and one blue state. Calgary metro area should be blue and pozzed.

So, how long do you guys give it before being patriotic is racist again?

The moment the right in Canada started to use the flag as a patriot system.

 

[All Your Bases...]

At what point can we all come together and admit that the current regime is hostile to our very existence? As white boomers cheer it on and sacrifice their children on the altar of ~diversity and inclusion~

Boomers are one of the most narcissistic generations to exist. Their only concern is themselves and no one else. Before the Second World War, the term "teenager" didn't exist. However, after the war, it was invented to keep children in this new invention called school longer Back then, when you hit 14, you were sent to the farms to work and find a job; you were considered an adult.

That's why teenagers are often associated with "It's not a phase!"; their bodies mentally crave challenges and want to rise above. However, they are being cradled like children in the most critical years of development.

As a result, there is an entire generation of people who are treated like children during their most critical years. Fostering manchildren, I remember this story from my history teacher. He said that his parents were full-blown hippies as Vietnam raged on, but the second the war was over, they cleaned up their act and went to living out the American dream.

Liberalism was appealing to them because it was precisely the opposite of the nuclear family. They wanted to prove their parents wrong so badly; however, because they were cradled like children, they thought of solutions in the most black-and-white way possible, and as a result, to them, the Liberals would always be the heroic underdogs, no matter how much they control media, and the conservatives always an evil controlling force.

They want to be treated as adults but still be allowed to act like children, completely naive and oblivious to the world around them. They don't possess the same maturity as their parents because they never suffered. They cannot possess any true compassion because there was never a moment in their youth that they had truly suffered in life. When there were inconveniences, they had their parents to fall back on for emotional support. Compare that to their parents' childhoods, where all hopes and dreams were crushed as anyone who wasn't the elite suffered during the Great Depression. After the Second World War, their parents wanted to do everything to ensure their children would not suffer as them. However, they couldn't have foreseen the consequences. To be fair, who could have at the time?

This is even more prevalent in Canada, which hasn't joined Vietnam and has become a popular location for American men seeking not to serve their dues; this heightened the sense of grandeur those boomers got back when they were young Canucks.

And the Boomers have never grown out of that mindset, which is why they mass-voted for Carney despite him being the exact figure they would have despised in their youth. To the boomers, America has once again become that nation during Vietnam, and Carney would be here to "help" Canada prove itself once again against the much more "corrupt" America.

 

[Sekirodiealot]

It's interesting to see Trump actually get blamed for carney's victory.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

"Should have had more babies then!" - Retards who ignore economic and social conditions which punish whites nationwide and prevent us from succeeding or matching even a fraction of immigrants' "excellence" through no fault of our own. At what point can we all come together and admit that the current regime is hostile to our very existence? As white boomers cheer it on and sacrifice their children on the altar of ~diversity and inclusion~

We could go back to having 5 kids each and they would still be saying we need to import Jeets.

Also why must the line always go up?

 

[Turkey Beef]

Given that Canada has no identity aside from anti-American chauvinism

It does have an identity, much in the same way that two other failed neoliberal experiments larping as "countries," Sweden and Germany, do. Namely, it's Secular-Atheist Vagino-Anal MCU Vegan-Vaccinationist Global Warmingism.

Neoliberalism is much like a modern white woman in how it functions. On a basic level, modern white women do not respect any kind of autonomy, because they operate on "strong independent" instincts and when politically enfranchised, treat everyone like little children. When a MWW “nags” a man, that is fundamentally what she is doing: attempting to correct his behavior as she would correct a child reaching to touch a hot stove. The entirety of women’s political behavior amounts to a state-level nagging operation (See: Ursula von der Leyen and Kaja Kallas turning most of Europe into a faggotized and retarded version of the USSR) with the purpose of controlling literally everything and everyone, which is why...

Canada on the other hand? The nation is beholden to a man who wrote a political manifesto called Values: Building a Better World for All, which a conservative on Reddit summarizes that it is not moral values that Carney is talking about but how a human and his quality of life is worth so little when a state must be totalitarian to save the planet from climate change. In addition, Carney argues that humans are unable to understand this value and this value must be overseen by the state.

...Is even a thing. Carney is an effeminate jackass, even moreso than Castro Jr. before him. Notice that the most diehard believers in neoliberalism are also the most effeminate fruitcakes in existence. The entire directive of those creatures is to "prove" that they, and only they, can unite the world under a perpetually schizophrenic system of "multiculturalism" *, and therefore a utopia is possible.

*What neolibs like to call "multiculturalism" is actually multiracial uniculturalism. Moslems are invited into Western countries not for their culture, but for their race. Note that pretty much all Islamic extremist behavior can and should be blamed in secularization, because the Moslems feel they are being attacked and censored. Secularization has not led to positive outcomes; the outcomes have in fact been overwhelmingly negative everywhere it's been applied.

"Canada" is irreparably effeminate in it's functioning or lack thereof. Long before Orange Man and long before Castro Jr, "Canadas" entire idea of 'nationalism' is thinking it's very fashionable to be engaged in chronic nagging, whether it's nagging to Mean Daddy America or nagging to the entire planet for not subscribing to Secular-Butthole-Vaginalism, and then crying out in pain when they are struck back (The Anti-Canadianism page in Wikipedia has plenty of examples of this) . This has been as obvious as ever in the age of social media, since it's state media can't censor and obfuscate everything as it sees fit.

As I noted nearly three months ago, it's not that "Canada" has Trump Derangement Syndrome; they are simply plain deranged. Seriously, there is not a single there in there that works at even the most basic level. The country is living proof that “Liberté, égalité, fraternité” failed. Actually, it’s the worst failure ever.

 

[Hokuriku]

Counterpoints are welcome. This is just how I see things right now.

The counterpoint that an independent west could simply be it's own thing and work deals with the US as a sovereign nation without a bunch of socialist bullshit muddying the waters? Even among seperatists there isn't necessarily a huge appetite to be a State.

 

[EscapeVorkuta]

"Should have had more babies then!" - Retards who ignore economic and social conditions which punish whites nationwide and prevent us from succeeding or matching even a fraction of immigrants' "excellence" through no fault of our own. At what point can we all come together and admit that the current regime is hostile to our very existence? As white boomers cheer it on and sacrifice their children on the altar of ~diversity and inclusion~

The West has become almost demonic with its treatment of youth and children (and it has only accelerated since Covid). Child sacrifice (abortion) is essentially a wedge issue or boogeyman in every election. Democracy can only work in a homogenous, high trust society. I think real totalitarianism needs to return for a brief period of time to knock the useless eaters back into their places. Sometimes people need to be told what is good for them. I am starting to believe National Socialism is the only solution.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

we are being replaced

Immigrants are being replaced by immigrants in Canada at this point.

 

[EscapeVorkuta]

One of the copes I am hearing from Libtards regarding Western Secession is muh Unceded Treaty Lands. If I had a time travel machine I would go back to 1867 and tell that drunken maniac John A. MacDonald that he would be doing the future of Canada a great service if he exterminated all of the "aboriginals" and forcibly displaced the French from Quebec.

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

What @All Your Base... posted about (libshit) boomers reminds me about RJ of the Fourth Age said about the generation. The TL;DR is that many boomers have a messianic complex and that the entirety of history is locked behind a shroud of inaccessibility. Where the Greatest Generation took the post-World War II "never again" to mean that we should actively take steps to prevent the atrocities of the past, the Boomers believed that it meant it will never again because humanity is too enlightened for it to happen. They were the generation that was supposed to usher in a new age of peace, enlightenment, and universal human values. As such, they jealously clung onto power when Generation X and older Millennials were to take the reins. What they basically want all of the power with none of the responsibility, which is why you have Matt Janes (the Brantford Boomer) playing the victim card after his abhorrent behavior turned him into a meme.

Then there was what @Turkey Beef said about modern white women. I have yet to see a creature more insufferable than a boomer MWW. Every single one I have come across on X is arrogant, conceited, and expects nothing but praise and validation for simply existing. You will get nothing but condescension from them and will admit no fault, even when their incompetence is painfully obvious, while acting entitled to respect they never earned. That describes the feminized Canadian Left to a fault and it is the most socially destructive force in history.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

One of the copes I am hearing from Libtards regarding Western Secession is muh Unceded Treaty Lands. If I had a time travel machine I would go back to 1867 and tell that drunken maniac John A. MacDonald that he would be doing the future of Canada a great service if he exterminated all of the "aboriginals" and forcibly displaced the French from Quebec.

That just means we get to make a new treaty with the natives telling them to get fucked.

Also with the Jeets at the helm for negotiations I doubt they won’t try to pull one over on the Red man. Jeets and their long history of scamming,

The Redman should be bowing down to us giving them more than a fair deal because any other race would have just killed them all