Canada is a failed state

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Something that has been turning inside my mind for a bit. I've been thinking of the promised spending for various major projects:
  • Defense (needs $150B per year to achieve NATO's 5% of GDP by 2035. Largely uses creative accounting to include infrastructure projects as I doubt that Ottawa has any serious plans for streamlining procurement and recruitment beyond another layer of bureaucracy.)
  • ALTO (promised price tag: $90B, but projects of this scale typically go overbudget, overschedule, and with Ottawa's reputation, underdeliver. If I use the Trans-Mountain expansion as a baseline, I could see this ballooning to $200-250B for a service a vast majority of Canadians will never use.)
  • Space Launch Capacity (This get take tens of billions before anything is launched due to logistical bottlenecks, and frankly, the attitude I get from proponents is that they want to compete with SpaceX and Starling. However, Canada is a day late to the party and a trillion dollars short.)
  • Canada Strong Fund (Given that the 2025 Federal Election has emboldened the Liberal Party in light of Trudeau-era scandals, we can dispense with "innocent until proven guilty" and assume that this is another slush fund for insiders. The fact that it is funded by debt leads into the next point I want to make.)
When accounting for servicing on the debt eating more federal revenue than national defense (and possibly healthcare, not sure of that yet) in addition to existing spending, it paints a bleak picture of the future. There seems to be this attitude within the establishment and swaths of the voting public that the economy is a bunch of levers you can pull and something nice comes out. However, history demonstrates that central planning on this scale never works and only leads to bigger problems down the road that toxic positivity cannot fix. Canada is facing a productivity crisis while the feds are chasing prestige projects that offer little to no relief to the ills facing a moribund economy.
 
Leaf Wage Slave Jr said:
Consider that what's known as "the most controversial novel ever written in Canada" is about a woman fucking a Bear, and I don't mean the hairy man kind.

That shit won awards by the way. I feel like part of the reason Canadian schools largely don't use Canadian Literature might just be the sample size of things both well written and school appropriate is just that fucking small compared to just focusing on American and European literature instead.
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Its a fucking crime that Steven Erickson isn't promoted more... while his recent works are a bit weaker then his earlier ones. His mazalan tales of the fallen series is on par with a wheel of time and depending on your taste close to lord of the rings.

Man shits over Game of thrones but unfortunately choose to write at a late high-school/university level so a lot of retards drop off from his books.

Sadly I believe he is still on hiatus from his publisher going under that had exclusive rights till this or next year.
 
The Federal Government has no intention of actually completing any of these. It's announcements to bamboozle the boomer.
Jetpack Himmler said:
Defense (needs $150B per year to achieve NATO's 5% of GDP by 2035. Largely uses creative accounting to include infrastructure projects as I doubt that Ottawa has any serious plans for streamlining procurement and recruitment beyond another layer of bureaucracy.)
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Not happening in any real tangible way, will most likely be done by announcement of projects and procurement that Ottawa never intends to fulfill. What ones do get the go ahead will take forever. Like a certain three story parking garage just finishing up year three of being under construction.
Jetpack Himmler said:
ALTO (promised price tag: $90B, but projects of this scale typically go overbudget, overschedule, and with Ottawa's reputation, underdeliver. If I use the Trans-Mountain expansion as a baseline, I could see this ballooning to $200-250B for a service a vast majority of Canadians will never use.)
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They saw how much got scammed in California and now they want a piece of that pie. This will be cancelled in 15 years after sucking down a few hundred billion with nothing to show for it. People will lose their shit about it being cancelled because of the leftist's fascination with trains and thinking it makes them like Europe.
Jetpack Himmler said:
Space Launch Capacity (This get take tens of billions before anything is launched due to logistical bottlenecks, and frankly, the attitude I get from proponents is that they want to compete with SpaceX and Starling. However, Canada is a day late to the party and a trillion dollars short.)
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Launches are most efficient at the equator, that's why everyone launches in the south. So we're going to spend billions to develop a launch field that no one uses. Brilliant!
Jetpack Himmler said:
Canada Strong Fund (Given that the 2025 Federal Election has emboldened the Liberal Party in light of Trudeau-era scandals, we can dispense with "innocent until proven guilty" and assume that this is another slush fund for insiders. The fact that it is funded by debt leads into the next point I want to make.)
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Like has been said, another slush fund. Will accomplish nothing like the last infrastructure fund.
 
Leaf Wage Slave Jr said:
Consider that what's known as "the most controversial novel ever written in Canada" is about a woman fucking a Bear, and I don't mean the hairy man kind.

That shit won awards by the way. I feel like part of the reason Canadian schools largely don't use Canadian Literature might just be the sample size of things both well written and school appropriate is just that fucking small compared to just focusing on American and European literature instead.
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It's also the best cover for a user icon
 

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Curious.
 
OutInTheRain said:
Launches are most efficient at the equator, that's why everyone launches in the south. So we're going to spend billions to develop a launch field that no one uses. Brilliant!
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Hilariously enough this is actually one area we could compete since equatorial launches are not well suited polar orbit insertion. In typical fashion though we'll spend all those billions to make a facility which might launch something every other year before getting shut down over some chug land claim, all the while Scandinavia rakes in the cash from having semi-competent launch programs.
 
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I understand that the US is probably using this to force an weaker Canada to give concessions during the CUSMA negotiations. But it's pretty troubling that the USA no longer sees us even as an weak ally. Considering even the democrats are calling out Canada on things like Chinese EVs, it shows how much of a security threat Canada has become (also pretty impressive being able to piss off the Dems as left wingers). Also this agreement survived the Trudeaus but not a year of Carney.
 
The Cum Beast said:
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I understand that the US is probably using this to force an weaker Canada to give concessions during the CUSMA negotiations. But it's pretty troubling that the USA no longer sees us even as an weak ally. Considering even the democrats are calling out Canada on things like Chinese EVs, it shows how much of a security threat Canada has become (also pretty impressive being able to piss off the Dems as left wingers). Also this agreement survived the Trudeaus but not a year of Carney.
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I'd start worrying if they suspend the military exchange program. Or ending NORAD. That would be the big one.

But this is probably the start of the US being more dictatorial in its defence demands. It could be that the juice is not worth the squeeze and I doubt the DoW wants to sit in a room with people who's only qualification seems to be knowing French and listen to them rant about gays, brown people and women.
 
The Cum Beast said:
I understand that the US is probably using this to force an weaker Canada to give concessions during the CUSMA negotiations
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I don’t that it is. Canada is torpedoing every agreement it has with the US while blatantly allowing the CCP to buy off the government and not lifting a finger on the border. That’s aside from Canada being the money laundering capital of the world and having insane politicians publicly spout shit like “the US is the biggest threat to Canada.”

IMO Canada is a very big security issue that will need to be dealt with one way or another. It’s absurd to say that the US is a threat to Canada when its entire national security plan is “no one will fuck with us because they’ll have to deal with America” while inviting in the IRGC and CCP to setup shop complete with their own government representatives to make sure no one asks any questions.
 
Scale Smerch said:
Anne of Green Gables is definitely our biggest literary output, no matter how much the media tries astroturfing Margaret Atwood
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When I was in korea, people there kept asking me if I had been to PEI because anne of green gables is apparently very popular in asia.

Slap47 said:

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Curious.
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Benjamin Netanyahu please create a tsunami that wipes vancouver off the face of the earth.
 
OutInTheRain said:
When I was a kid there was the guy who wrote the McDonald Hall novels, which I loved. But I am struggling to think of a lot of YA authors that are Canadian. I do think part of that stems from the degradation of the print market. Videogames have stolen audience and everything being slop ensures they don't comeback.

One of the nicest things about have lived in the US is no classic rock station plays Loverboy. I actually heard more Rush and Guess Who in the US that I do in Canada.
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Oh yeah, the Bruno & Boots series by Gordon Korman. I had those books. A few years ago they did a live-action adaptation of The War With Mr. Wizzle (retitled The Wizzle War for some reason in latter years). The TV movie was called "Bruno & Boots: The Wizzle War".

They made some interesting cast and character decisions. Instead of being a stodgy pudgy man remeniscent of Liberal MP Johnathan Wilkinson (see the front cover of the OG book to see what I mean), the guy playing Wizzle was thin and tall and had super curly hair. The guy playing Wilbur Hackenschleimer - a clearly hefty muscular white kid in the books with a monster appetite - was played by a tall skinny black kid. Chris Talbot, the artsy-fartsy kid, was portrayed as a mute, never speaking at all, even though he clearly has dialogue lines in the OG book. And Miss Scrimmage, who was supposed to be an elderly spinster, was played by a much younger woman and they didn't even Estelle-Getty her and make her look older like Sophia on Golden Girls. Instead they turned her into some sort of free-spirit-y hippie-type character, which the OG Scrimmage most certainly was NOT.

And yes, before you ask, Gordon Korman was involved in this production, so I'm assuming he was fully on board with these changes. Maybe someone convinced him to go woke. There were two other movies, This Can't be Happening at McDonald Hall, and Go Jump in the Pool. I think I only saw The Wizzle War.

The storyline changed from "New Big-Ass Computer at school to change how kids learn" (1980s) to "Brand new app from a computer nerd teacher to change how kids learn" which I guess is fine from a trying-to-modernize-the-story perspective, but I would have appreciated it more if they'd stuck to the original book more and set it as a period piece rather than modernize it. You can't do the computer-paper-replaced-by-toilet-paper gag when it's an app and not an actual computer with a printer, and that was one of the funniest gags in the OG book. But that's just me.
 
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A Canadian program with Canadian money should only be used to subsidize Canadians? How RACIST! Thank god "Canadians" are immediately throwing tantrums

Coun. Landon Johnston is suggesting a program that subsidizes some services for low-income earners should only be available to Canadian citizens.

But the idea is facing pushback, including from a group that supports immigrants, who says doing so would be unfair.
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“For me, Fair Entry is one of those social services that should be protected and only used by Canadians,” said Johnston. He added permanent residents should also potentially be eligible.

The Fair Entry program gives discounts for transit passes, leisure centres, rec facilities and tickets to attractions like the Calgary Zoo and Heritage Park. It also provides snow shovelling and grass cutting services for seniors over 65.

The city confirmed it approved 113,000 applicants for Fair Entry in 2023. That rose to 134,000 in 2024, and 138,000 last year.

The increased demand is perhaps not a surprise as people face the cost of living crunch. Johnston says it’s an indicator that the affordability crisis is “bursting at the seams.”
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'Not fair' to restrict Fair Entry

The president and CEO of Calgary’s Immigration Education Society says many new immigrants rely on services like the low-income transit pass as they adjust to their new surroundings.

“We have welcomed these newcomers into our city. It is not fair to not give them access to amenities everyone else is accessing,” said Sally Zhao.

She says it could also have a negative impact on the city’s economy. Those that feel welcomed are more likely to give back in ways like volunteering, or starting a business, Zhao says. Those that don’t may end up leaving the city.
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Lol. Yes because browns who NEED a free bus pass are definitely going to use it for volunteering

Coun. Nathaniel Schmidt says he would not want to see non-citizens excluded from the program. He'd rather see the program expanded.

"To me, I see the program being extremely valuable. So the change I would like to see is that there's more opportunities for more people to have access to those basic things,” he said.
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...whoa this guy might actually be a genius I don't know why anyone else has never thought of this, just give everything to everyone problem solved!?
 
Slap47 said:
The group of people I have seen starting to hate Indians is the descendants of migrants and even migrants themselves.
In a strange way they are more patriotic than the average Canadian.
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Their parents came here for a better life and the new migrants are turning Canada to the place their parents left, so yeah.
 
Betonhaus said:
Their parents came here for a better life and the new migrants are turning Canada to the place their parents left, so yeah.
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General Aetius was viewed as the "Last of the Romans" for centuries after he died. He had fought and defeated Atilla the Hun and saved Western Rome for 30 years before being stabbed to death by his own Emperor. He was the descendent of a Vandal.

Perhaps the "Last of the Canadians" will be a Filipino or Turkish man.
 
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