Can't find a fucking job

[El President Camacho]

( For youngsters 17-25 who are directionless and don't want to get sucked into the enlistment path.)

Spoiler: Writes a book length reply life story

One life hack I found by circumstance was working as a live-in at under staffed Horse Ranches. They don't advertise on the main Internet sites but in their own circles so networking in person at Horse Racing or Rodeo's is a must plus you'll find at lot of top tier girls there. If you don't know shit about ranches or horses be honest, show interest and not be on drug's and they'll teach you as that's what I used to do. (First I learned then I taught as it used to be).
If you were valuable we would keep you around, If not we would work you until you broke and quit or got good. I started by picking up stalls because my GF at the time was a horse girl so I would clean as a volunteer so she didn't have to. (Saving her stall cleaning fees) My work ethic made me stand out (plus I really liked it ) and My chill and confidence let me clean the stalls the staff couldn't into because they were bitch made and afraid of problem child horses. The horse owner's also liked that when I helped everything ran smooth.
When I "got fired" from the waggie job I got fed up (got myself fired lol) the owner of the ranch asked me to stay as a live-in (no rent) so he could get rid of all the dead weight who were staffed and My gf didn't have to pay boarding fees.
When I became the man I would have all my tasks done by 11am, surviving staff had the rest the day. I would spend to rest of my day trying not to cheat on said GF because most of the riders were horse girl memes (ikyk) and worked as security or as a bouncer on weekends for personal funds/savings
Without doxing I gained a reputation as someone who would out work or drive out any dead beat's and by my late 20's I was running Ranches somewhere on Colorado Plateau and could get work anywhere in the South West just on reputation alone, no larp. Started late in my teens with no exp. BTW (when most are born into it)

Warning there is no "big money" in it on the staffing side, just a place to live and learn (with little to no rent). Around half of most older women "owners" are just former QT horse girl's who married the real owner and he passed on or got divorce raped (in Cali mostly). Another type is wealthy cunts who get their cuck money bags Husbands into funding their private zoo's who have no clue about working animals. Unfortunately those are also the places that need the most help for obvious reason's.
Don't get me wrong one of my best bosses (ever) was an almost 80 year old Arizona O.G. cowgirl who even though she had 70 year old dessert face, her body was of a fit 40 year old and she trained rescues within 3 weeks and sold them off to ranchers in Cali.
On my first day working under her I tried to saddle her Horse and she walked up and punched my shoulder saying when she couldn't lift up her own Saddle it was time to put her out to pasture. Neighbors told me she once pistol whipped someone she found out was ambushing her horses (allegedly). If you knew her.. allegedly?-LAMO. She Would out right talk mad racist shit to "Arabian horse trainers" and Mexican's, good times.
I only left working for her because I had to go back to Cali for family drama. On the other hand I once resigned from one of the best paying jobs I had because the crazy old bitch "owner" (Zoo type) didn't want to put down a horse who was at that age and was suffering everyday. Even the 3 to 7k a visit vet said it was time but she was insufferable-didn't earn it-slept her way into it dumb. Many such cases.
By doing so I kept my good rep for not snitching on the "owner" and the horse boarder's/owner's saw I did what was right for the horses on principal and the Vet was able to take care the situation when he told her Cuck Husband why I left. So even today a few phone calls and I could be back out west living in a trailer or guest house rent "free" but the catch is you have to live at your job.
Some of the girl's and boy's who used to work under me grew up and still email that they have her own ranches now and I could come by anytime and stay as long as I want. Also Many such cases.
So maybe if you find the right fit you can work/live there while still going to class or working if you have the fortitude until you build up your savings to get your own place or find a "good job".
I also used to be the one of the driver's when traveling to drop of sold horses. That's how I used to get across the country on someone else's dime but also traveled all around on road trips to national parks on my mini vacation's
So I had an idea where to go before I found it when leaving Cali for good. I'm not saying change your life around to do it; it's just a means to get your foot into the door of a side of society that is gate kept.
I don't have the energy for that shit anymore ( 16hr days sometimes, Mexicans doing stupid shit, 20hr days because Crazy old ladies or Mexicans doing stupid shit) Found my new "calling" for a time in law enforcement after that saga in my life. Yes still got in even though I was in my mid 30's ( Having many letters of recommendation from wealthy Ranchers didn't hurt.) still ran circles around the Keeds.

I also left that for obvious reason's two years ago and used my exp. in boot stomping to get the cushiest security gigs with about the same pay but almost none of the risk ( might be on the clock as posting lol) Yet I miss the southwest range work every time I have to deal with an NPC (then I remember Mexicans). Where I reside now (somewhere on Ozark plateau) ppl take care of their own live stock so that's not an option. Life saga rant over but needed to give context no b.s

 

[Alex Hogendorp]

Truck Driving. The pay scales are very wide, but you'll figure out how to move to the high paying Hazmat hauling once you're in.

It is such a based industry that all the trannies that work in that industry are also based.

Don't go into the owner-operator route until you actually have money in the bank. You do not want to start this career with a tractor loan. Drive fleet on someone else's tractor and insurance first.


About 10% of LH drivers now are women, most of them are doing trailer drops and not doing hazmat hookups or messing around with oversize flats.

Those little 5th wheel cameras solved the woman driver problem, the most work she has to do now is plug in the reefer umbilicals.

Truck Driving is a job that I've been thinking about having. The opportunity to enjoy the scenery around me whilst making money feels like such a treat to me.

 

[CharlesBarkley]

Get an insurance adjusting license from self study. Get a remote position doing auto claims. Drink yourself to death later.

 

[BattleMage]

SO, modern job searching is a massive supply/demand problem and when you are having trouble becoming employed, you are working against the forces of supply/demand. For example, you are trying to find "any shitty job." The issue with landing "any shitty job" is that everybody and their dog is trying to land that position. If you live in a rural area especially, there are 25 other meatheads who need a W2 for their SNAP, and they are all pathetic pushovers who will gladly slave away for Goldstein, Inc in order sustain their meager lifestyle.

Approach employment as an attempt to solve a demand problem. For example, I got a CDL several years ago. Trucking isn't for everyone, but it does give you a skillset that allows you to solve a company's demand problem. Even today, considering the terrible economy we're currently in with rates down the shitter and used tractors averaging 35-40k, you can get a job that will keep you treading water because of your skillset. You could become a welder, an electrician, a plumber, a heavy equipment operator, it doesn't matter. Learn a skillset that allows you to solve a company's demand problem and employment will never be a problem for you.

 

[Troon_Patrol]

What skills do you have?

The first real job I had I walked into a random shop and asked the boss if the needed an entry level kid for some basic stuff. I mentioned to him the job description he hadn't even given me yet was a hobby I was already very passionate about even mentioned industry brands that he sold and made him a lot of money on. He was kind of a grouchy old man but treated me with respect I think he saw I wanted to be as good as him one day. He was great at what he did, his biz partner / son also took his work and work ethic very seriously. In my industry you can abuse people very easily far worse than a plumber or car mechanic lying about the cost and labor of a repair. When my co workers were taking a smoke break or sitting around doing nothing I was asking the boss the best technique to solve a problem. When a customer brought in a destroyed piece of hardware we would save the valuable parts and trash the rest of the assembly. I'd always ask permission first if I could dig it out of the trash and pull it apart and fix it or at least see how it worked. As soon as I learned enough I went off and started my own little company. My specialty and their common work requests were so different and city was so big we were never in competition. To this day I still consider them something of friends.

 

[Cirrhosis_of_Liver]

Truck Driving is a job that I've been thinking about having. The opportunity to enjoy the scenery around me whilst making money feels like such a treat to me.

The good thing about CDL is there's many, many different options, so you can bounce around until you find a job that works for you.

I have a dedicated dryvan account in West Texas and New Mexico. I drive 3-4 hours at a stretch, hop out, unload, and then get back to listening to books while I travel extremely familiar roads. I think it's cake, but some guys would find that exasperating.

On the other end of the scale is what I started with-- OTR flatbedding. You'll eventually get to know about half the places you load, but there are ten million places to unload, often construction sites or ranches, and you'll haul everything from hay to solar farm components. "Always something new" is very true. I hated it.

If you're a home body, consider concrete. It's dangerous and dirty, but the pay isn't bad, and you'll usually stay within 30 miles of your batch plant. You'll also have the chance to get to know a lot of contractors and businessmen in your area, which could be an invaluable springboard for starting a business of your own.

If you do trucking a while and decide to do something else, a few hundred a year to get your physicals and renew your license is worth it. Most places are desperate for drivers, so it's a solid fall-back.

 

[BallsDeepInAi]

Just consider that you'll have to compete with hordes of jeets for the role, so be presentable, eloquent, not smelling of curry, not wearing a turban, and don't grope anyone in the waiting room.

I support OP going through this route. Tired of Pajeets plaguing fields of communication or technology in general.
Talking to those fuckers about my Savings being potentially endangered of being stolen was so infuriating and nerve wracking. I was sweating bullets because my shit could have been fucked by the third time I had to repeat my perfect english to a fucking economic migrant. Shit sucks, I was so convinced that they may be in on it too. Thank God they weren't, but fuck them anyway.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

Have you considered attaining skills? I hear lots of people are seeking skilled labor.

People keep saying this but it's not even true anymore. "We need handy people!", the carpentry schools first couldnt find students and now they cant find teachers NOR students. I've seen freshly certified electricians and 10-year machinery veterans alike not being able to find work.

There is no professional pride anymore. You dont travel away, learn, and return to be the town's smith. You go away, learn to use a laptop, then stay there and use a laptop for 80% of the same tasks. Oh, you're an engineer? Laptop. Oh you wanna shift to programming? you guessed it, laptop. Marketing? Hit up agencies? Nope, laptop.

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

What can you do? What do you enjoy doing? What papers do you have (diplomas, certification, portfolio)? Who do you know? You might get more precise advice if you answer these questions.

Otherwise, I recommend to just embrace the concept of bullshit jobs. For example, low-level consultancy is open to pretty much everybody as long as you're somewhat charismatic, well-dressed, eloquent, possess a diploma, and are able to produce PowerPoint presentations. Be the biggest, shameless bullshitter you can be. Warning, these jobs won't be available to you if you live in a middle-of-nowhere shithole.

Alternatively, find a bullshit office job like data entry while you acquire marketable skills. In Western Europe, it tends to be remote work too which is terribly boring, but definitely not challenging and leaving you with time and desire to pursue more mentally-stimulating activities. Don't work physically unless you're getting paid really well.


Question for the truckers in this thread, how does this job impact your ability to socialize? The one trucker I knew personally was a pretty lonely, but definitely a cool dude. Is it possible to maintain long-term friendships and relationships while your job is to travel great distance regularly? @Cirrhosis_of_Liver @Catboy Ranch

 

[Cirrhosis_of_Liver]

I missed my wife back when I was OTR, but I never cared to socialize with other people more than sending stupid pictures every few weeks. When I had my wife with me, I was happy as a clam.

If you're the sort of person with a big circle of friends that you want to spend time with frequently, OTR trucking is probably not for you.

If you're a filthy manwhore, or womanwhore for that matter, opposite advice to the previous sentence.

 

[Rungle]

What are your skills?

 

[Meat Target]

UPS is always looking for package handlers. It's like the military, with all the shitheads and incompetence but none of the honor or glamor.

Great for if you wanna sweat away a bunch of pounds, hate yourself, and want to hate other people.

 

[The Token Ethnic]

UPS is always looking for package handlers. It's like the military, with all the shitheads and incompetence but none of the honor or glamor.

Great for if you wanna sweat away a bunch of pounds, hate yourself, and want to hate other people.

At an old job of mine, no one wanted to deal with UPS and hated taking packages out to them. I didn't mind helping them out and it was fun throwing packages onto the truck. They'd bring beers and we would slam a tall boy before they'd take the packages. Fun times.

 

[Cirrhosis_of_Liver]

On that tack, "technician" jobs for things like working on wind turbines, installing burglar alarms, fixing satellite TV, and the like are constantly hiring, because they need someone with genuinely bare minimum skills (able to use a wrench and climb a ladder, put on a safety harness.) They also pay bare minimum, often expect you to be willing to travel, and are dirty, dangerous, thankless jobs and you might even be expected to do sales.

Fuck those jobs. But they do exist, unlike 75% of office type jobs on indeed which are chaff to hide how poorly a company is doing.

 

[Core Theorist]

Can I get people's general opinions on "Pharmacy Technician"? I just finished one of them free courses to fast track me for it but I haven't actually applied yet. I'm gonna have to do it for a while to pay the bills soon enough.

Anyway, that's just an immediate-future shit, I'm still not sure what I want my actual long-term career to be. I'd like advice on that too. I'm the type of young 20's guy that likes having an excuse to work with power tools and playing with spreadsheets and graphs. I'm not too good at either yet but I actually like doing those things, or at least I just can't remember ever complaining about it. As a counterpoint, I really hate going outside and I already have a bad back.

Is there anything obvious for somebody with my interests to build an actual long-term career around? I'm not even sure what the 'obvious' ones are besides those generalized vague 'engineer' jobs... I'm a little scared of those though, that's apparently a lot of education I need to put in before I get anything good.

Any advice, or things I might look at that I haven't heard of before?

 

[SassyDispatch]

Get an insurance adjusting license from self study. Get a remote position doing auto claims. Drink yourself to death later.

I can recommend insurance or online banking if you want something that pays decently for an extremely moderate amount of work.
If you can get work from home even better (try using 'remote' 'hybrid' or 'wfh' in your search terms on job sites.
It's easy work, you'll be pushing digital paper all day, maybe taking calls from customers call centre style, but never feel truly challenged on anything. The work is never ending, but it's all just mundane simple busy bullshit.
Just beware the middle managers. Every office has their tiny cubicle king who are always elated to be pushing people around on the barely registering level of power they are granted by the real bosses. (this cunt is usually a dumpy middle-aged woman and will favour other dumpy middle-aged female employees over you).
If you can stomach the bullshit, it's good easy money with a very low bar of entry. And they always always always need bodies.

 

[SirCliveSinclairdabbing]

If you're British and healthy then walk up Snowdon twice on the llanberis path.

The first time in the daytime with someone to take plenty of rugged pictures of you.

The second time with a group you are "guiding" for about £150 each, from what I've seen 2 guides can herd about a dozen to 20 tourists, it's a gradual slope with no actual climbing but here's the key, aim to arrive at the top for sunrise, that gets you the money.
It's the easiest route up the mountain, cheap parking in llanberis and not much hanging around when you're there because the cafe at the top isn't open yet.

With out of shape Brits I'd estimate 4 hours for a slob to the top and 2.5 hours for a normal person.
It's funny pre dawn because the route looks like a motorway with all them head torches. Your only risk is clouds/wind coming in, in 30 minutes it can get to less than 10ft visibility and if they do, turn back for safety reasons and offer to go back in the daytime.

 

[Cirrhosis_of_Liver]

Can I get people's general opinions on "Pharmacy Technician"? I just finished one of them free courses to fast track me for it but I haven't actually applied yet. I'm gonna have to do it for a while to pay the bills soon enough.

Pharm tech isn't a terrible job if you don't mind being stuck inside all day, which I guess is actually a plus for you. Pay isn't great, but it beats the shit out of flipping burgers. A lot of pre-med people do it. If you're just looking for something to do while you plan your next move, I'd say go for it. The medical industry isn't going anywhere. To be clear, I'm getting this secondhand from someone who lives in my house. She did it, not me.

Idk what you do inside with power tools and spreadsheets without straining your back, but you'll have plenty of time to consider that while filling prescriptions.

If your back is so bad that prolonged standing is a problem for you, then nix Pharm tech.

 

[♦️ King of Diamonds ♦️]

Can I get people's general opinions on "Pharmacy Technician"? I just finished one of them free courses to fast track me for it but I haven't actually applied yet. I'm gonna have to do it for a while to pay the bills soon enough.

Anyway, that's just an immediate-future shit, I'm still not sure what I want my actual long-term career to be. I'd like advice on that too. I'm the type of young 20's guy that likes having an excuse to work with power tools and playing with spreadsheets and graphs. I'm not too good at either yet but I actually like doing those things, or at least I just can't remember ever complaining about it. As a counterpoint, I really hate going outside and I already have a bad back.

Is there anything obvious for somebody with my interests to build an actual long-term career around? I'm not even sure what the 'obvious' ones are besides those generalized vague 'engineer' jobs... I'm a little scared of those though, that's apparently a lot of education I need to put in before I get anything good.

Any advice, or things I might look at that I haven't heard of before?

My personal recommendation for that would be to start as a Pharmacy Tech-In-Training at a retail brand- alot of retail stores like that have programs where if you work for them and get relevant job experience they'll completely pay for your books, fees, etc. needed to obtain both a State License as a Pharmacy Tech and your PtCB (national certification).

Once you do obtain your State License and PtCB you will get a very big pay boost, but the better option would be to try applying to work at a local hospital where you can learn more advanced stuff they don't normally deal with in retail like compounding and working in inpatient care. Working as a Pharmacy Tech with both a PtCB and a State License employed with a hospital is a solid middle-class living you can obtain with just a High School Diploma or even a G.E.D.

However- if you really want to make big-bucks I would try being a Pharmacy Tech-In-training specifically at WalMart... the reason for this is that in addition to paying for your PtCB and State Liscence, WalMart specifically also has a program they offer all employees where they will pay every penny (books, tuition, etc) for you to get an online Bachelor's Degree from a number of different universities (so long as you stay employed with them). If you have a Pharmacy Tech State Liscence, PtCB, and a Healthcare Bachelor's Degree earned through one of these programs you could become what is known as a "340b Pharmacy Technician Specialist", who is basically a Pharmacy Tech employed with a hospital who handles all the inventory/billing/logistics aspects of the inpatient pharmacy... these people tend to make as much, or even more, as the actual Doctors/Pharmacists themselves. And with WalMart paying for your Bachelor's Degree, you do do this all completely debt-free.

 

[Manimal House]

I made a really lengthy post in the US politics thread but before I finished my post, the news broke that Biden is stepping down so it got buried. Basically, I went through a bunch of charts tracking the employment* rate of different US demographics and came to the conclusion that veterans, young adults, white people, degree holders, and men of all ages are going through some major shit with finding a job and/or keeping one. Check that post for more information, as well as a pdf of all the graphs that show employment rate for all demographics for the past 15 years.
*Employment rate on those graphs includes those that are employed and those that are seeking employment. It is NOT reflective on those that are just employed and actually earning income


With the massive political shitstorm that's going down right now, I'm going to prognosticate for a bit. I think one of two things will happen, maybe both:

-A lot of government jobs have opened up, but many more are going to be open up soon. This is based on two factors: 1) No matter who gets elected, the US will be under new management by the year's end, and that will mean that departments will either expand or consolidate 2) I got word that a lot of job fairs are taking place at military locations for recruiting purposes, supposedly many jobs will be posted between now and October. Looking at USAJobs.gov, there are about 9700 positions open to the public right now, and over 2k of those postings went live 5 days ago.

-Excluding certain areas, small and lesser-known businesses are going to make waves and they'll be needing more bodies, wether it be temp help or full time. I see this happening because investors have been keeping money locked into giant corporations but that money is probably going to leave soon and be redistributed. Google, Microsoft and Facebook are eating shit due to pinching pennies and hiring troons and off-shore labor for a reason (mainly being cheap, therefore its a downward spiral). There's currently an oversaturation with job posting boards, but a couple months ago there was an article ranking job posting sites. The best ones they recommended were ZipRecruiter, Snagajob, Ladders, SalesJobs.com, Dice, Chegg Internships and HotJobs.vet. I'd keep an eye on those, as well as anything new that comes along.