Car Thread - VROOM VROOM

[CaptainAutism69]

My Aston is gone. I needed to scratch the V12 itch before they are relegated to the past, and loved the car, but everytime I drove it any weird sound or shudder would give me panic attacks over 5 figure repair bills so she had to go. Either going to replace her with a V8 Vantage, or go back to Lotus if I can find an Evora that's not been beat to shit.

Stumbled upon this guy and love his work

https://youtu.be/vA-Z3ncTdUY

amusing, but totally autistc

 

[God's drunkest driver]

I can't reply to your reply to me i don't know why. I don't know the European standard for key cutting as my expertise isn't on the software side the one time i didn't have keys i just got rid of EWS all together and a year later i switched to aftermarket ecu for my project e30 so i'm afraid i can't answer that. I mostly have autistic interest in the m50-m54 engine generations. I am curious about American engines as they are completely foreign to me. Why is the LS such a popular platform i kinda want to have a car with an LS in it but i know nothing about them are they reliable even with some light modification?

The objective answer is that the LS does just about everything well, it can't even be argued otherwise. An LS is smaller than any OHC V8 whether european, american or asian, makes 300-350hp stock depending on variant, and will last for a couple hundred thousand miles easily. The aftermarket is massive and cheap and you can make 500hp with a heads, cam, intake ("HCI") build with even the mediocre early LS1 bottom ends. They can sound good if you don't just retard mode straight pipe it or put flowmasters on it, and other than LS7s with valve issues they don't really have any consistent serious issues. An LS1 is a ~480lb engine (iron block are ~105lbs heavier than AL and the truck accessory mounts are heavier too). They're just a good all around choice. A good frame of reference for you is that a dressed M50 is almost 460lbs and is longer and taller than an LS, and an M54 is somewhere around 40lbs lighter than an M50 (the block is a lot lighter but a B30 crank is quite a bit heavier than a B25 crank). The other famous swap engine, the 2JZ, is about 515lbs dressed with a single turbo. So LS engines are very light for what you get, which is an easy and fairly cheap 3-500hp engine with great low end torque that will last and fits in just about anything.

 

[Eggward biscuitbottom]

The objective answer is that the LS does just about everything well, it can't even be argued otherwise. An LS is smaller than any OHC V8 whether european, american or asian, makes 300-350hp stock depending on variant, and will last for a couple hundred thousand miles easily. The aftermarket is massive and cheap and you can make 500hp with a heads, cam, intake ("HCI") build with even the mediocre early LS1 bottom ends. They can sound good if you don't just retard mode straight pipe it or put flowmasters on it, and other than LS7s with valve issues they don't really have any consistent serious issues. An LS1 is a ~480lb engine (iron block are ~105lbs heavier than AL and the truck accessory mounts are heavier too). They're just a good all around choice. A good frame of reference for you is that a dressed M50 is almost 460lbs and is longer and taller than an LS, and an M54 is somewhere around 40lbs lighter than an M50 (the block is a lot lighter but a B30 crank is quite a bit heavier than a B25 crank). The other famous swap engine, the 2JZ, is about 515lbs dressed with a single turbo. So LS engines are very light for what you get, which is an easy and fairly cheap 3-500hp engine with great low end torque that will last and fits in just about anything.

Ohhh thanks for explaining you got me hankering to import one. Especially the comparisons with the bmw make it easier to comprehend. It also makes me laugh a little because i'm building a makeshift s52 engine but those don't exist in Europe instead we kept the m50 iron block and named it the S50B32 which should have the m54B30 crank so it's the worst of both worlds.

 

[God's drunkest driver]

My Aston is gone. I needed to scratch the V12 itch before they are relegated to the past, and loved the car, but everytime I drove it any weird sound or shudder would give me panic attacks over 5 figure repair bills so she had to go. Either going to replace her with a V8 Vantage, or go back to Lotus if I can find an Evora that's not been beat to shit.

Stumbled upon this guy and love his work

https://youtu.be/vA-Z3ncTdUY

amusing, but totally autistc

What vintage of V8 Vantage? I just couldn't see owning an Aston Martin that doesn't have a V12 unless it was a classic. They're beautiful I'm not putting up with exotic prices and reliability for a V8, My E63 is as bad as I'm going to tolerate. Any more expensive and complex to maintain and fix than that and I want a V10 or V12. I've seen what an XKR does to a man, not worth it for a V8.

 

[CaptainAutism69]

What vintage of V8 Vantage? I just couldn't see owning an Aston Martin that doesn't have a V12 unless it was a classic. They're beautiful I'm not putting up with exotic prices and reliability for a V8, My E63 is as bad as I'm going to tolerate. Any more expensive and complex to maintain and fix than that and I want a V10 or V12. I've seen what an XKR does to a man, not worth it for a V8.

Either the 4.3 from 2006 onwards, or a 2010-2012 4.7 Litre. I really like how they drive, especially compared to my Rapide which was a good mile eater, but not very fun unless it was on full chat through a tunnel.
I've considered XKR's but the prices for some reason shot up to the moon here in Europoor land, and if I'm buying an unreliable British sports car, I'd rather have one that makes people wet, and will hold it's value better.
Unfortunatly I'm not having much luck in finding one...literally all have big holes in their service history (i.e. serviced in 3 year intervals or more), have changed hands more ofter than your mom, or have CEL lights flashing like a christmas tree. Even 'Timeless' cars from Aston Martin dealers are dodgy as hell with 'trust me bro' style attitude from dealers.

Like...in the UK, in the past, in an advert you would get a mini-history about the car, dates of service, and a wad of paperwork. Now you get a few grubby stamps in the service book, if the service book still exists, and a refusal to discuss anything via email, with everything being 'trust me bro' phonecalls.

 

[anklyscr]

with everything being 'trust me bro' phonecalls

Widen your search so you’re not just looking in Bradford or Birmingham. Innit. Bro. Akbar

 

[CaptainAutism69]

Widen your search so you’re not just looking in Bradford or Birmingham. Innit. Bro. Akbar

I'm looking throughout the entire EU. I want LHD.

 

[Thiletonomics]

Chevrolet revealed the new ZR1 Corvette, which has 1000+ HP:



So is this an actual good GM car, or is it bound to be shit like GM's more basic cars?

In other news, Toyota will be recalling 100k Tundra trucks and Lexus LX SUVs, due to engine failure risks, and will replace the engines on all of them. Assuming a $15k replacement engine cost at most optimistic prices, that's $1.5 billion in engine replacements right there. And the other big question is where Toyota will need to cut costs at, to offset that expense?

 

[God's drunkest driver]

So is this an actual good GM car, or is it bound to be shit like GM's more basic cars?

Corvettes have always been pretty good. Most of the criticisms leveled against them are people bitching that they aren't as nice as cars that are more expensive anyway. These new corvettes are very fast, check out the quite complete lightning lap time list, look at the cars around the corvettes, all more expensive cars. I did notice from a video of it that like most modern turbo V8s, the new ZR1 doesn't sound very good. Though, neither does the Z06 IMO. Somehow I prefer the sound of the crossplane engined cars contrary to the flat plane fanboying that is typical. I'm not a fan of flat plane v8 sounds in general I guess though, because I don't find the ferrari 458 a particularly good sounding car, 355s sound way better.

 

[The Last Stand]

Here's a list of celebrity owned Imperials from the 20th century. One prominent example I want to share:



Ginger Rogers with a four-door '66 Imperial. Hard top.

 

[The Man With No Name]

Corvettes have always been pretty good. Most of the criticisms leveled against them are people bitching that they aren't as nice as cars that are more expensive anyway. These new corvettes are very fast, check out the quite complete lightning lap time list, look at the cars around the corvettes, all more expensive cars. I did notice from a video of it that like most modern turbo V8s, the new ZR1 doesn't sound very good. Though, neither does the Z06 IMO. Somehow I prefer the sound of the crossplane engined cars contrary to the flat plane fanboying that is typical. I'm not a fan of flat plane v8 sounds in general I guess though, because I don't find the ferrari 458 a particularly good sounding car, 355s sound way better.

I agree - maybe I'm just a traditionalist but high cubic inch pushrod V8s sound the best to my ear every day of the week. There's some that are better than others, and there's certainly ways to make them sound bad. I'm not even a fan of the DOHC V8s like the 5.0 Coyote - they just sound high strung.

At the end of the day, I'd never own the ZR1 or something like it because I'd just beat myself up over the price too much and never drive it. I'd rather have a garage of classic cars than a singular factory 1000 horse car that costs just as much.

 

[Thiletonomics]

Following Toyota needing to recall the new Tundras for engine failures, some new Toyota Tacoma owners are reporting transmission failures, and it's happening to both the Manual and Automatics. There is an open TSB for the Manual Tacomas, T-SB-0058-24, for the issue where they won't shift to the even-number gears.

It is still early to determine if this was just a bad batch, or if it's another widespread issue like the Tundra engine failures, but expect people to still simp for Toyotas, because of past reliability.

 

[God's drunkest driver]

Toyota has had issues over the years, remember the frame issues of the late 2000s, but these problems are high profile with toyota drivetrains rarely being the issue. With the borderline cultlike following that toyota trucks have I imagine the engine and transmission failures would have to be quite widespread to have any impact. It's not surprising that they'll have more issues with the new generation of turbo engines than they were having with the old UZ, GR and TR engines that they had been using for a decade or more before the switch.

I recently spent some time in a brand new corolla in the southeast states and the AC was just not that cold, it seemed like it could not keep up with the heat load of a humid 92° day and took a while to cool down. This is of course on top of the other drawbacks of it being a corolla; the fake shifting cvt, the completely numb driving experience. A new civic is a better car in every way, I don't even know why someone would buy a corolla over a civic.

 

[The Saltening]

One of my favorite cars of all time. Not a power beast or anything but just a stylish and fun car. Relatively cheap-ish too, although low mile, non-abused, unmodified ones are getting rare and expensive. 5 speed manual trans and a 300hp 4.6L v8. If you have 15k burning a hole in your pocket finding a nice one of these wouldn't be the worst idea. I do recommend going for a california special or a roush trim. They just look better than base ones.

Image: 2008 vista blue GT/CS

 

[Troon_Patrol]

One of my favorite cars of all time. Not a power beast or anything but just a stylish and fun car. Relatively cheap-ish too, although low mile, non-abused, unmodified ones are getting rare and expensive. 5 speed manual trans and a 300hp 4.6L v8. If you have 15k burning a hole in your pocket finding a nice one of these wouldn't be the worst idea. I do recommend going for a california special or a roush trim. They just look better than base ones.
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Image: 2008 vista blue GT/CS

God Dammit Patrick, we already have a thread just for you, keep it there ok?!

I'm sorry I couldn't resist typing that. I actually really like the s197 as weekend car but later the 5.0 is where it's at. It really needs a good aftermarket exhaust as well imho. That Coyote is WELL worth it if you drive them both and it's been proven to handle forced induction and few extra mods for more power. I got mine from some guy who didn't know wtf he had, got it for about half of what it was worth because of a electrical problem I diagnosed an fixed within a week of owning it. I could write 12 pages on how people who call themselves "mechanics" either know their shit or they simply don't and even the fucking dealership ASE certified guys just go by the M.O. of replacing expensive modules till it runs right instead of asking why the car is doing what it's doing and a better question "what caused it so it won't break again in 3 months?" About 3-4 times a month I do something a BMW dealer tech will tell you cannot be done outside a dealership or simply cannot be done at all without replacing $3,000 in modules on a $5,000 car, I do this with $300 in tools and $20 in parts.

I like the S197 because at least for the time being you don't need FRDS to service the car. It will operate around Ford IDS and cheap Chinese bootleg copies just fine. Less than a week ago I had a 2023 ford product. All keys were lost and the guy might literally be fired for losing the keys to this company vehicle. I'm communication with the car well, alarm is off (this hinders CAN connection in newer ford vehicles) and it refuses to accept a new key into the system. Surprise! FRDS is required to service this vehicle. FRDS is only about $5,000 plus a yearly subscription fee, plus a NASTF active membership oh and don't forget that J534 pass through device and a live connection to Ford USA server, hope it's not down for some reason. The level of equipment required to service cars made after 2015 disgusts me. The German auto companies had this policy for years that this is our vehicle, you simple paid the dealer to operate it. Now the US big 3 and even the Japanese companies are fighting like hell to require live server connection to something to service ALL their vehicles. They are shitting all over "the right to repair law" imho and nobody cares. Also fuck NASTF I hope somebody dies because of their policies and they get sued for 10 million dollars, in some kind of wrongful death civil suit.

My only real complaint is the S197 live rear axle, I always thought it was funny it had live traction control but also lacked independent rear suspension. I guess for "traditional" reasons?

 

[WhatInTheActualFuck]

Toyota has had issues over the years, remember the frame issues of the late 2000s, but these problems are high profile with toyota drivetrains rarely being the issue. With the borderline cultlike following that toyota trucks have I imagine the engine and transmission failures would have to be quite widespread to have any impact. It's not surprising that they'll have more issues with the new generation of turbo engines than they were having with the old UZ, GR and TR engines that they had been using for a decade or more before the switch.

I recently spent some time in a brand new corolla in the southeast states and the AC was just not that cold, it seemed like it could not keep up with the heat load of a humid 92° day and took a while to cool down. This is of course on top of the other drawbacks of it being a corolla; the fake shifting cvt, the completely numb driving experience. A new civic is a better car in every way, I don't even know why someone would buy a corolla over a civic.

One thing GM has always done well is having AC that got shit cooled down quick.

It's a little funny that I was dead set on the new Taco as my first foray into trucks and decided to go with a Chevy instead just for cost vs. capability reasons. Turns out that I may have dodged a bullet entirely by accident.

 

[CaptainAutism69]

I bought another Aston today I need help. I'm sick.

 

[Bassomatic]

Didn't they make TVs too?

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Daewoo makes/made tons of stuff. They made 2 rifles I'd love to own.

But guys/gals. Let me tell you something. I don't like to brag (but have a few times) Every penny I paid for my lift, has been worth it. As I've mentioned my little old honda needed a clutch and I was torn another 6 puck or spend big and get a twin disk. I did twin. It's fine. Whole thing less than an afternoon. Just me, (ok mrs brought snacks and held bolts a few times) Yes I have an air gun and I've pre soaked trans bolts.

Twin disk... it's cool as fuck I'm going to follow break in, but right now it's not just the difference from an agressive clutch, it's strange.. not sure how I feel. I'll report back after I can rack up the miles. But there's like a ... float. It's cable so no not a fluid issue, cables right. It's just a different feel from even a sport or stock clutch hard to explain.

I've driven a near stock GSR integra with a twin (long story) had same feel. No issues like grinds or stalling. Not sure if it's just how they are. Because I've also driven T56 cars with twins and they didn't do it.

I'll update but I love my lift. If you want to use it... bring beer, if you want to borrow my tools, bring pizza too, if you want my help, cigars also. But yeah just really nice to have a car I've had since my teens up in MY home, on a lift that I own.. I dunno emotionally reminded me I'm moving on up to the east side... in a dexl.... wait

edit: @Captain Autism69 what model ?!?!

 

[WhatInTheActualFuck]

Spotted a dude in a 3rd gen Taco stuck in the sand today while driving home from fishing. Pulled over, got the traction boards from the bed situated in a few minutes and he was out in short order. He spun a bit on them, but the damage was pretty minimal. Even cheap traction boards are a worthwhile addition to your recovery kit.

 

[CaptainAutism69]

@Captain Autism69 what model ?!?!

V8 Vantage 4.7L