Carl Benjamin / Sargon of Akkad / Akkad Daily / The Thinkery / @not_sargon / @WarPlanPurple - Leader of the "Liberalists" & Droning Pseudo-Intellectual Boomer anti-SJW Activist, Applebees Waiter, Mass Shooter Whiteknight

[Goku 1000000 O]

No, it started because a woman used her pussy to get press coverage for her shitty game, and when people thought that sucked then every woman started screaming sexism and harassment and rape and all their simps joined in. That's basically what Gamergate was and continues to this day, because those "instincts" these women have only exist to pick up perceived dogwhistles. I mean if people don't remember, pretty much every game publication and personality banded together to say gamers are garbage and men are the worst. I don't know what reaction you're allowed to have that would not be branded misogynist.
It was the precursor to all this incel shit, you criticize the behavior of women and you get branded as hating all women while also not being able to fuck them. Track that until now where if you're not defending gamer cam-prostitutes then you are a virgin who wants to shoot women. It's pretty much the exact same people spinning this yarn by the way, and if the take here is "maybe Zoe Quinn was right" then you need to reassess some shit.

This shit right here, it just screams pure pathology.

 

[FernandoPooTragedy]

Here’s a hot take, Carl has always been a bonafide misogynist and this whole crusade against feminism for the past 6 years has just been an excuse to shit on women.

Maybe the feminists had a point even back during GG, the arguments being used weren’t misogynistic but the people using them were (or at least Carl is).

Maybe their gut instinct was somewhat right.

Shhhhhhhhhh!!!!! Don't you know where you are?!?!?!?!

 

[Rekkington]

This shit right here, it just screams pure pathology.

Where am I wrong? That's literally the sequence of events of how it started, before "ethics in games journalism." Gamergate was a girl made a shitty game, pushed it online, got outed for being a whore, we all laughed at her for being a whore, and everyone freaked out. That's it. Every response since then was "why are all these video game publishers saying gamers are pieces of shit and men suck?" That's where Sargon and Metokur and the rest of them came up, that's what Comicsgate is right now, it's the same sort of dumb thing.
I don't see how there is another interpretation of the events, much less "maybe they were right the whole time and they all just hate women."

 

[Arctic Fox]

Where am I wrong? That's literally the sequence of events of how it started, before "ethics in games journalism." Gamergate was a girl made a shitty game, pushed it online, got outed for being a whore, we all laughed at her for being a whore, and everyone freaked out. That's it. Every response since then was "why are all these video game publishers saying gamers are pieces of shit and men suck?" That's where Sargon and Metokur and the rest of them came up, that's what Comicsgate is right now, it's the same sort of dumb thing.
I don't see how there is another interpretation of the events, much less "maybe they were right the whole time and they all just hate women."

Metokur basically started GG lol. He's the one who spread Mundanematt getting false flagged by Quinn. His Quinnspiracy series amplified a tiny scandal to a full blown controversy which led to the autism wars.

Doesn't matter though. It's dead. Sargon is a fucking retard. It appears that he now hates women or thinks they should be baby factories. Or, more likely, he's a slimey liar trying to extract views and revenue from a different, more extreme audience.

Continually arguing about GamerGate is gay.

 

[Rekkington]

Metokur basically started GG lol. He's the one who spread Mundanematt getting false flagged by Quinn. His Quinnspiracy series amplified a tiny scandal to a full blown controversy which led to the autism wars.

Doesn't matter though. It's dead. Sargon is a fucking retard. It appears that he now hates women or thinks they should be baby factories. Or, more likely, he's a slimey liar trying to extract views and revenue from a different, more extreme audience.

Continually arguing about GamerGate is gay.

It is definitely gay, and that is one of the dumb things Sargon does and why electing Anita Sarkeesian as his nemesis was really cringe. All I was doing was responding to the hot take "maybe they were right." Like shit, we have an entire sub-forum on here about all these people and what became of them. I don't think they're the ones to hitch your wagon to.

 

[Goku 1000000 O]

Where am I wrong? That's literally the sequence of events of how it started, before "ethics in games journalism." Gamergate was a girl made a shitty game, pushed it online, got outed for being a whore, we all laughed at her for being a whore, and everyone freaked out. That's it. Every response since then was "why are all these video game publishers saying gamers are pieces of shit and men suck?" That's where Sargon and Metokur and the rest of them came up, that's what Comicsgate is right now, it's the same sort of dumb thing.
I don't see how there is another interpretation of the events, much less "maybe they were right the whole time and they all just hate women."

I said that the arguments weren't misogynistic (anti-GG had weaker arguments of course) but their characterization of their opposition as misogynists isn't totally without merit.

Again, look at Carl.

Your response was just super spergy.

 

[instythot]

No your word were maybe they were right, I'm saying they're not and if you're not doing a bit then that's weird and gay. When she leaked the game to Wizardchan, the precursors to incels, uh yeah they probably hate women and they plaster that everywhere so I guess you can find misogyny if you bait it intentionally.
By the way as you can see by my other posts I'm not defending Carl, people jumping on these comments is just gay and weird.

Good lord, fella. People are jumping on it because you're missing the point as the words aren't arranged in the exact right order of your preference

 

[Rekkington]

Good lord, fella. People are jumping on it because you're missing the point as the words aren't arranged in the exact right order of your preference

I deleted my comment cause this is dumb but I want to say for the record my original comment was smart and cool and you guys suck.

 

[disenchanted]

Wow the way people use reactions here is very reddity. Not sure if I like the taste.

 

[Juan But Not Forgotten]

You know what's the biggest irony in all of this? I doubt Anita and especially Zoe would be relevant after year or two, if this shit never happened. Anita had nothing under her belt, except her shitty videos, and Zoe would've run out of dicks to suck for exposure, so they both would be just two little stains in the internet history. But thanks to that gay movement, they've built entire careers on whining about people writing mean words about them, including visit to the fucking UN headquarters, and when Zoe's gravy train started to slow down, she decided to throw Alec Holowka into the furnace. Doubt she would be able to do that, if she didn't have a career to begin with.

 

[Prinz von Preußen]

You know what's the biggest irony in all of this? I doubt Anita and especially Zoe would be relevant after year or two, if this shit never happened. Anita had nothing under her belt, except her shitty videos, and Zoe would've run out of dicks to suck for exposure, so they both would be just two little stains in the internet history. But thanks to that gay movement, they've built entire careers on whining about people writing mean words about them, including visit to the fucking UN headquarters, and when Zoe's gravy train started to slow down, she decided to throw Alec Holowka into the furnace. Doubt she would be able to do that, if she didn't have a career to begin with.

Yeah, but neither would Sarg'n. Sacrifices had to be made.

 

[Banworld]

Every time I check this thread, Sargon seems to hold a completely different outlook on things, and it's never anything good. What the fuck happened to his big brained individualism? Wasn't his whole gripe with Spencer that a person should never be obligated to the state? Wasn't he the dumbass who used the slogan 'service guarantees citizenship' from some show? Clearly he has no problem with immigration as a source of population, what's with the new angle of 'our civilisation through our children' outlook now?

I don't disagree that cultural attitudes are largely spread through the family, but the idea of 'womens obligation to have kids' is so woefully ignorant of how the family structure has been disincentivised. I swear to God, Sargon has the uncanny ability to walk around a point, never landing on it, only to piss his pants and waddle onto the next point he'll miss.

 

[Juan But Not Forgotten]

Yeah, but neither would Sarg'n. Sacrifices had to be made.

And a ton of other autists, like Milo, Mundane Matt and Bryan Dunn. God almighty, Gay Gate was a mistake.

 

[Rekkington]

Every time I check this thread, Sargon seems to hold a completely different outlook on things, and it's never anything good. What the fuck happened to his big brained individualism? Wasn't his whole gripe with Spencer that a person should never be obligated to the state? Wasn't he the dumbass who used the slogan 'service guarantees citizenship' from some show? Clearly he has no problem with immigration as a source of population, what's with the new angle of 'our civilisation through our children' outlook now?

I don't disagree that cultural attitudes are largely spread through the family, but the idea of 'womens obligation to have kids' is so woefully ignorant of how the family structure has been disincentivised. I swear to God, Sargon has the uncanny ability to walk around a point, never landing on it, only to piss his pants and waddle onto the next point he'll miss.

The thing is, individualism and the "classical liberalism" thing that made him and Rubin and the rest popular isn't interesting anymore. Ultimately the whole selling point was we should stop these bad people from putting up borders and then we can talk. Okay, so we all did talk. Everyone from the Far Left and the Far Right have been debating each other and the centrists and Liberals and Libertarians and it turns out nothing happened. Nobody really changed, and each side going "they're the REAL racists/sexists/authoritarians" is really gay and boring (Charlie Kirk.)

Sargon's problem is he doesn't seem to read books or craft an interesting worldview, which is why he has historically done so poorly in debates. He is modelling himself off of the worst parts of British intelligentsia, where feigning either calm amusement or tired incredulousness is enough to get people to think you're well read. Ironically, Sargon's problem is he isn't autistic enough to make himself good online, and too autistic to make it in the mainstream as we all saw with the UKIP thing.

But to your point, watching him and Milo change over time is an interesting summary of the past few years. Milo for example is no longer a "free speech absolutist," as he calls it. That's a far cry from where he started. Everyone's a far cry from where they started, and we can watch Carl end up on the White Sharia side by 2021.

 

[LordofCringe7206]

And a ton of other autists, like Milo, Mundane Matt and Bryan Dunn. God almighty, Gay Gate was a mistake.

I really have to wonder what things would be like today had the great autism holy war never happened. I know I'm making it sound like it was more important than it actually is, but it really did effect so much on both the internet and this so called culture war we are currently living in.

 

[instythot]

Sargon's problem is he doesn't seem to read books or craft an interesting worldview, which is why he has historically done so poorly in debates. He is modelling himself off of the worst parts of British intelligentsia, where feigning either calm amusement or tired incredulousness is enough to get people to think you're well read. Ironically, Sargon's problem is he isn't autistic enough to make himself good online, and too autistic to make it in the mainstream as we all saw with the UKIP thing.

I'll offer a different view as to what Carl's intellectual problem is that causes him to be so fucking bad at debating. Rather than understanding or even just thinking about the subject at a level at which he could defend the position he has taken from unforeseen attacks, he prepares for things as if they are a strategy game.

His usual tactic is to quite obviously try to funnel a person into various pre-prepared "gotchas" or tactics to put a person off balance (what is white, Richard?, I'm just here for a conversation, Andrew) and he utterly falls apart when his conversation partner either won't take the bait or knows more than him about the "trap". The smuckles and rhetorical questions are to fill dead air when he doesn't know how to provide an actual response. Occasionally, he discerns ahead of time that this tactic is doomed to failure because his opponent is far more experienced with the subject than he could ever be, and then we get "Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!"

The only times his A plan has had any measure of success was against other autists also performing as if it were a strategy game, Little Stevie Bonnell and Sir Vaush of Horse Cock. But yes, none of this translates to the normie spheres

 

[disenchanted]

We should 'trick' Sargon into defending pedophillia. Shouldn't be hard.

 

[StarDog]

We should 'trick' Sargon into defending pedophillia. Shouldn't be hard.
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We should get Trump to tweet about GamerGate while we're at it.

 

[Baguette Child]

And a ton of other autists, like Milo

Y'know, at least Milo was fairly entertaining. Whether it was laughing at him directly, or laughing at the boomer shit the media would say about his outrage of the day, there was a lot of good content back when he was an actual public name.

 

[Dang Woodchucks!]

We should 'trick' Sargon into defending pedophillia. Shouldn't be hard.
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But wait a minnit... didn't one guy on a stream give his testimony as a victim of child abuse once? I recall Carlito's response to be something like:

Well, it depends on the child, really.