Cartoon Industry thread - Showcasing the Spergery of the Animation Industry

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Grand Duke Snowfall said:
It’s mentioned a few posts up that one of the voice actors is a tranny. And apparently Izzy herself is nonbinary, because of course she is.
Some other whining included the good ol’ “ya’ll really for indie shows until they do something you think is bad!” And “straight men hating on something made by a woman-oh wait, Izzy is nonbinary I’m so sorry!!”
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I used to watch Izzy a long time ago and I've never seen anywhere she was a genderspecial, so I guess it's a recent development of her. That or I was too stupid to connect the dots back then.
 
I just thought he was really annoying and gay, I didn't really need anything more serious to not like him.


One less molester in Hollywood is good news in my book.
 
Niggerphobe said:
If they had a cartoon made by kiwis what would you guys make the plot and art style
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By kiwis or not, I'm just thinking about how to make a cartoon that would appeal to teenage boys. Never having been a teenage boy myself, it's difficult. By my best estimation, I figure teenage boys hate emotional shit but LOVE big guys punching things, cars, action, and growth like you see in animes where so-and-so wants to be the best, overcomes, and IS TOTALLY THE BEST!! YEAH!!!!
So what if there was a cartoon adaptation of Rat Race, where a billionaire promises a zillion dollars at the end of a giant cross-country race, and there are 6 teams all racing one another to go get it? It's like One Piece meets Wacky Races, and along the way you can have all kinds of shit go down. Racers sabotaging one another, fights, anime "I can do this!! I won't give up!!" type monologues, cool car designs, interesting teams where everybody's got something you ultimately want them to win for (like maybe one guy's been poor his whole life and this is his chance to prove himself and turn things around, maybe another guy has a sick mom, etc) so by the end of the series it's like OH NO I WANT THEM ALL TO WIN WHO'S GONNA DO IT???
 
Chromeo said:
Western Redline?
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This movie if it was made in America and not Japan.
 
Chromeo said:
By kiwis or not, I'm just thinking about how to make a cartoon that would appeal to teenage boys. Never having been a teenage boy myself, it's difficult. By my best estimation, I figure teenage boys hate emotional shit but LOVE big guys punching things, cars, action, and growth like you see in animes where so-and-so wants to be the best, overcomes, and IS TOTALLY THE BEST!! YEAH!!!!
So what if there was a cartoon adaptation of Rat Race, where a billionaire promises a zillion dollars at the end of a giant cross-country race, and there are 6 teams all racing one another to go get it? It's like One Piece meets Wacky Races, and along the way you can have all kinds of shit go down. Racers sabotaging one another, fights, anime "I can do this!! I won't give up!!" type monologues, cool car designs, interesting teams where everybody's got something you ultimately want them to win for (like maybe one guy's been poor his whole life and this is his chance to prove himself and turn things around, maybe another guy has a sick mom, etc) so by the end of the series it's like OH NO I WANT THEM ALL TO WIN WHO'S GONNA DO IT???
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I was a teenage boy - things that you mentioned, that interest teenage boys, are interesting only in reasonable amounts. Your idea is interesting, but it's so over the top that it might get stale after about twenty episodes of exactly just racing, sabotaging and character development. I heard shonen anime is the extreme of that, and it gets very repetetive easily. I can commend that the end goal of the plot is outlined right away, though, not many people can do that so quickly.

I'm just a more boring person, because I haven't watched TV since early teens, but I think a much cooler and interesting story would be a variation on "The Three Musketeers" story archetype, with setting\historical elements altered or replaced. It'd also show cool male role models, if you take inspiration from the book - my favourite moment is when Porthos made a bet with a swiss mercenary in a cantina, which involved him and his companions having a picnic inside a ruined fortress on the Le Rochelle island during an active battle.
 
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InJailOutSoon said:
I would have it be about a small team trying to get their animated show off the ground, and poke fun at the industry's standards and all their bullshit.
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Metafiction is always hard to pull off. You got to straddle the line between self-awareness and straight up fart-huffing BS. You have to be hard hitting with the industry critique as well, and most of all you got to be funny.

Case in point, Wastelandia is a cartoon with a fundamentally dull concept, and the meta / referential flourishes only serve to make the pilot even less appealing. In fact, most 21st century cartoons have the same problem.

TL;DR This post rehashes the same core observations critics of "Disney / CN" cartoons have made for years.
 
SoleniyKraut said:
I was a teenage boy - things that you mentioned, that interest teenage boys, are interesting only in reasonable amounts. Your idea is interesting, but it's so over the top that it might get stale after about twenty episodes of exactly just racing, sabotaging and character development. I heard shonen anime is the extreme of that, and it gets very repetetive easily.
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While true, this only became noticeable thanks to binge-watching. These kinds of shows are designed to be selling toys watched on a weekly basis, even with home media releases. Also sometimes you just need a show that is episodic, which helps enhance the need for it to be weekly.
 
liam dees said:
Metafiction is always hard to pull off. You got to straddle the line between self-awareness and straight up fart-huffing BS. You have to be hard hitting with the industry critique as well, and most of all you got to be funny.

Case in point, Wastelandia is a cartoon with a fundamentally dull concept, and the meta / referential flourishes only serve to make the pilot even less appealing. In fact, most 21st century cartoons have the same problem.

TL;DR This post rehashes the same core observations critics of "Disney / CN" cartoons have made for years.
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Oh yeah, absolutely. That's true for almost any concept that bases itself in reality. While there are shows and movies that have succeeded in that, it's usually because the people behind it know what they're doing, and they execute it at the right time. Which is why Wastlandia failed. There are already so many shows that are about "young adults trying to make it through in life", so Wastelandia really had to take this overdone premise and have the writing be top-tier. But it's not.
 
Dana Terrence's GLITCH-produced show has an official trailer now.

There are already comments talking about how the trailer's supposed to be a middle finger to Disney and their exploitative industry practices. I can't be too mad about it since Disney can go suck tissue paper but again... this is Dana Terrence we're talking about. The Owl House creator.

People will glaze this like mad, acting like it's the ultimate self own to Disney despite no one at Disney will be affected by this. It does suck her show got canned early and that's the last thing any show creator should suffer from. But again, this is Dana Terrence we're talking about.
 
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Small reminder cartoon reviewers on YouTube and breadtubers unironically believe the angry birds movie is right wing propaganda. Which was a joke on 4chan to make fun of /co/umblr users.
 
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