Cartoon Industry thread - Showcasing the Spergery of the Animation Industry

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Ironically, old cartoons like Hanna Barbera and even classic WB cartoons had styles where a lot of the work looked visually similar. The difference is they gave a crap about putting out a good product.

Also, Velma is getting shredded online and so is Mindy Kaling and it's awesome.

I dunno about Hannah Barbera. I think we cut them a pass because nostalgia has propelled them into legend status, but easily 95% or more of HB's stuff has aged poorly, and this not because they weren't woke enough but because the nature of their primary medium (TV) and their target audience (children instead of sarcastic stoner adults and teens) really affected the quality of their repetitive scripts and cheap animation.

Compared to today's studios, at least HB didn't try to antagonize the audience nor push cocksucking soyboy activism into their work.

But Huckleberry Hound, Quickdraw, YogiBear, they all used the same plots in different settings. The Flintstones decayed quickly as soon as Pebbles was born halfway into the show. The original Scooby Doo run was basically the same plot over and over again in every episode. And besides the scripts, the company was fond of cannibalizing its own winning formulas such as Scooby's format of eccentric teens with a talking pet.

That, and the fact that cartoons were considered infantile fodder meant that the company had to deliver sanitized, repetitive tripe to appease the PTA. Finally add that producing animated content for tv is a grueling task that forces any studio to deliver whatever to fill the assigned spot and we end up with Hannah Barbera being a good studio only when you consider the limitations it was working with, and by good studio I mean, "Well, it tends to deliver within budget and on time the crap it was commissioned for".

This isn't to defend the utter burro shit that is current iteration Velma, but still...
 
I dunno about Hannah Barbera. I think we cut them a pass because nostalgia has propelled them into legend status, but easily 95% or more of HB's stuff has aged poorly, and this not because they weren't woke enough but because the nature of their primary medium (TV) and their target audience (children instead of sarcastic stoner adults and teens) really affected the quality of their repetitive scripts and cheap animation.
Added the fact that when you consider the duo's prior work at MGM, Tom & Jerry and compare that to their television field known for Yogi Bear, Scooby Doo, Flintstones, Top Cat, Wacky Racers, Smurfs, etc., the company was pretty much the Illumination of the baby boomer/Gen-X era throughout the late-50s through early-70s, and also put UPA's own limited animation to the mainstream, and when I mean by that, I mean putting themselves into the world of Saturday Morning TV. This is a merit that even Walt Disney criticized them for and vowed to not have his characters be seen on any form of media other than theatrical releases.
 
If we're really at the point that companies are creating cartoons solely to stir up controversy and hate clicks rather than a genuine passion for the medium since no publicity is bad publicity then it's no wonder the industry is in such dire straits. Social media has made cartoons like that even easier to amplify nowadays and I can't see it getting much better.
 
If we're really at the point that companies are creating cartoons solely to stir up controversy and hate clicks rather than a genuine passion for the medium since no publicity is bad publicity then it's no wonder the industry is in such dire straits. Social media has made cartoons like that even easier to amplify nowadays and I can't see it getting much better.
Look on the bright side: this shit might go around so full circle we get a new Johhny Bravo. I can't think of some reddit/ twiiter would hate more then a good looking white dude that works out, loves his momma, and hits on women.
 
Look on the bright side: this shit might go around so full circle we get a new Johhny Bravo. I can't think of some reddit/ twiiter would hate more then a good looking white dude that works out, loves his momma, and hits on women.
Johnny Bravo was the dumb white misogynist that's the butt of the joke because of that done right.

It was funny, he always got his just desserts, but it never felt spiteful or preachy.

They'd fuck it up if they did a revival.
 
Everyone who makes those videos and farms views off of this is taking the bait hard. It sends a message that good things made with heart, soul and passion are risky because they don't guarantee money/views but intentionally bastardizing a well loved IP can generate free advertisement and hatewatching.
Its is kind of amazing, after everything we find out about him, that James Rolfe/Angry Video Game Nerds had the right approach with dealing with this crap. His short video on Ghostbusters 2016 (saying that he was not going to watch/review/talk about it/etc) was the right way to handle this crap.
 
Johnny Bravo was the dumb white misogynist that's the butt of the joke because of that done right.

It was funny, he always got his just desserts, but it never felt spiteful or preachy.

They'd fuck it up if they did a revival.
Plus, it had Adam West. Even Seth MacFarlane wrote a few episodes. All this explains why Seth and Adam worked together in Family Guy.
 
Johnny Bravo was the dumb white misogynist that's the butt of the joke because of that done right.

It was funny, he always got his just desserts, but it never felt spiteful or preachy.

They'd fuck it up if they did a revival.
Was he even misogynist per se? I don’t remember him as anything but a really pushy, horny dude and that got the pass precisely because of what you said, he got smacked back hard every time. Not to mention any time he DID the girl he was so insanely romantic or charming the girl clearly regretted having to dump him at the end of the episode for the status quo’s sake. Though those kinds of episodes would definitely never happen anymore.
 
Was he even misogynist per se? I don’t remember him as anything but a really pushy, horny dude and that got the pass precisely because of what you said, he got smacked back hard every time. Not to mention any time he DID the girl he was so insanely romantic or charming the girl clearly regretted having to dump him at the end of the episode for the status quo’s sake. Though those kinds of episodes would definitely never happen anymore.
He was very horny, but never came across as a misogynist.
 
Was he even misogynist per se? I don’t remember him as anything but a really pushy, horny dude and that got the pass precisely because of what you said, he got smacked back hard every time. Not to mention any time he DID the girl he was so insanely romantic or charming the girl clearly regretted having to dump him at the end of the episode for the status quo’s sake. Though those kinds of episodes would definitely never happen anymore.
The creators actually admitted that he did have game off-screen despite all of that. The show only showed it's failures.
 
Hot take:
Absence of "genuine adult animation" isn't about "ppl still have that prejudice towards cartoons". It's mostly about basic human inability to associate with some wack-ass drawing regardless of how mature the topics and such. Like, you're either stuck with TV series but drawn, or some stuff that won't be making some 30+ y.o. boomer willingly suspend his disbelief and cheer for some rick and morty looking ass.
Like, there's a good reason why Japan, world's top-1 "adult-ish" animation producer and consumer can't even procreate properly...
 
Everyone who makes those videos and farms views off of this is taking the bait hard
Youtubers are profiting from the same hateclick economy covering the outrage of the day, its really the people getting angry for free who are taking the bait.

Velma is such a low hanging fruit too, truth is thats one of the most prostitued IPs ever, if you are going to do the most retarded spin off you could think off, scooby doo would actually be the one to choose. it won't even matter, as we speak there's probably like 10 other scooby doo crossover movies in the works that will be just the same as always.

Hot take:
Absence of "genuine adult animation" isn't about "ppl still have that prejudice towards cartoons". It's mostly about basic human inability to associate with some wack-ass drawing regardless of how mature the topics and such. Like, you're either stuck with TV series but drawn, or some stuff that won't be making some 30+ y.o. boomer willingly suspend his disbelief and cheer for some rick and morty looking ass.
Like, there's a good reason why Japan, world's top-1 "adult-ish" animation producer and consumer can't even procreate properly...

Disney cemented animation as a kids medium in the west and then Ralph Bakshi came and cemented that adult animation is about swear words , booze and drugs and it has to be an edgy comedy, but those types of animated shows are really for 13 yr olds, american adult animation is Fritz the cat over and over and over again.
 
Late and gay response, but...
There's actually a lot of conspiracy theories about Hasbro sabotaging things trying to rid themselves of the basement dweller menace before they eventually caved and decided to milk the neckbeards instead.
I remember there was an MLP episode called "Fame and Misfortune" that basically existed to rip on the retarded side of the fandom. Naturally, said fandom went apeshit (even the episode's writer bent over to apologize while blaming Hasbro execs for it), and that's probably why they've ran the other way.
 
He was very horny, but never came across as a misogynist.
Also, he was never malicious. He wanted the attention of women but when they reject him he would drop it and moved on.

Plus, he was always nice to his friends even when he got annoyed by them. Also, he loved his momma very much :)
 
Late and gay response, but...

I remember there was an MLP episode called "Fame and Misfortune" that basically existed to rip on the retarded side of the fandom. Naturally, said fandom went apeshit (even the episode's writer bent over to apologize while blaming Hasbro execs for it), and that's probably why they've ran the other way.

Relevant r/hobbydrama entry

Hi there people from Hobby Drama! I have been a long time lurker and reader, and I have finally decided to write about a piece of My Little Pony fandom history that people seldom talk about, despite it being in my opinion the precursor to one of the most infamous examples of brony depravity on the internet.

My friends, let me tell you the tale of how a fetish caused many women to leave My Little Pony toy collecting community despite being part of it for decades.

The History of My Little Pony Toy Collecting

My Little Pony, or MLP for short, is perhaps one of the most recognizable toy lines in the world. Hasbro first started this line in 1981, with a series of toys called My Pretty Pony, which was relatively unsuccessful. The following year, they tried again, and released the My Little Pony toyline, which became one of Hasbro’s biggest brands for the next few decades.

MLP was not limited to just toys of little horses and unicorns, the brand released all sorts of merchandise, and with it several animated specials and films. This first line lasted from 1982 to 1992, and is dubbed Generation One (G1) by collectors. In the current community, G1s are probably the most desired and most often sought after ponies. This was in part due to the sheer variety of different coloured horses, unicorns and pegasi that one could collect. Here is a great index that shows all the different releases and the range of colour combinations that existed.

There was a 5 year hiatus between G1 and G2. G2 would end up being the shortest of the generations, only lasting for 2 years. This line was not as successful in America, hence the short run of it compared to G1, but it was quite popular within Europe, and there are still many avid collectors of this generation.

Generation 3 is the generation most people here would recognize. Running from 2003 to 2009, G3 was targeted to a younger audience than what the previous two generations were. Accompanying media to the toy line was considerably less complex and compelling than that of G1 and G2 both, which was a major reason for the world’s collective surprise of MLP: Friendship is Magic’s stellar storytelling. Ponies from this generation are not as sought after in collector circles, due to greater market saturation.

Now, onto generation 4. The release of G4 was accompanied by a cartoon series created by Lauren Faust, famously known for her previous works The Powerpuff Girls and Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends. Unlike the other three generations, the cartoon preceded the toys in many parts of the world. Veteran collectors of MLP toys were excited by the release of a new generation of toys, and many eagerly purchased wave one of the toys, which featured brushable figures of the main six characters from the cartoon, waiting excitedly for subsequent waves and merchandise releases.

They would not see the storm that was to come.

The Birth of the Brony

A brony is defined as being a male fan of the My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic series. The popularity of the series skyrocketed during the initial run of the first season of the cartoon, primarily on the internet imageboard 4chan. What started as an ironic meme actually became a genuine community that seemed to explode almost overnight. Memes about the show spread across the internet like wildfire, and the sheer amount of ponyposting had become such a problem on 4chan that it infected all other boards, not just the board devoted to cartoons.

One of the 4chan boards that had a lot of ponyposting was /toy/, a board focusing on toy collecting. This, of course, was not as egregious as posting in other topics as MLP had a toyline, but the lack of merchandising at the start of the MLP cartoon run and popularity boost had led to the toys being quite hard to find in person, and led to posters eagerly awaiting new toy releases and other merchandise releases. People would post pictures of the toys they managed to find, both in box and out of it, and eventually this led to people engaging in what was considered to be a /toy/ tradition.

What the FUCK is hotgluing?

Hotgluing is a practice that had started back in 2005, and has become an unfortunately common occurrence in toy collecting communities (particularly anime collecting communities) since then. It is when a man ejaculates on a piece of merchandise and subsequently photographs it to share online. For many, it is an obscure fetish, for some a joke, and for others, a way to provoke people (many examples of hotgluing are of highly sought after or expensive figurines).

For the MLP toy collecting community, it soon became a rite of passage for any piece of new merchandise to go through.

By the time Wave 2 of the toys released, the popularity of the show and of the toys were at its peak. As new merchandise began to be found, and these new toys began to be released, many scrambled to be the first ones to take pictures of these toys being hotglued. By this point of time, a containment board for MLP posting had been made on 4chan (known as /mlp/, which still exists to this day.) Threads would be made of new merchandise, and if they were not hotglued, then posters would immediately ask the original poster of the thread to do it. More often than not, the OP would comply.

At this point, bronies far outnumbered the members of the MLP collectors communities. At first, the collector community held quite a positive outlook on the brony community, glad that more people were engaging with a series that these people had held in their heart for many years. After all, many of these collectors grew up with G1, and were older women. Who wouldn’t be thrilled at the concept of new, younger fans, to take the place of the old guard? They had no idea of the depravity that had been going on until they were confronted with it.

You see, in these collecting communities, collectors would seek out personal photos of the toys they wanted to purchase to see how they differed to the photo listings available on department store websites and the like. Often times, there would be no photo listings for merchandise, and so it was up to the consumer to provide them. What this led to was women innocently looking for a picture of a pony, or perhaps a blanket or some other type of merchandise they wanted to buy, finding a picture of said merchandise having been hotglued.

This led to many collectors swearing off G4 collecting at the very start of the toyline’s run, as they did not want to subject themselves to seeing such pictures, and the risk of buying a toy secondhand that may have been “used” was deemed not worth it. Many collectors left the hobby completely, not just for collecting G4s, because of how this had tainted their experience.

This fascination with hotgluing would later become the catalyst for the very very infamous Rainbow Dash cum jar experiment, which remains to be possibly the most well known example of brony depravity on the internet, whereas the history of MLP hotgluing remains relatively unknown outside of the community.
 
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