Cartoon Industry thread - Showcasing the Spergery of the Animation Industry

[Kari Kamiya]

I wish Adult Swim would pick up Close Enough now that HBO Max has proven to be an absolute failure.

Adult Swim's under jurisdiction of Discovery, too.

 

[Trashtaur]

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> sees Coco

Oh c’mon, i actually thought Coco was really good. I’ve rewatched it a few times and have only grown to respect it more each time.

The soundtrack is great, the visuals are gorgeous, and the story was solid. I honestly thought the “generational trauma“ aspect of the film was handled a lot better than in Encanto (mainly the long-term effects, Alma in Encanto was still alive and well, whereas Imelda and a good portion of her immediate family were already long-dead).

Also, say what you will about the twist, but I personally really liked Ernesto as a villain. I actually consider him to be one of Pixar’s best villains due to how fucking scary he is imo - scary in the sense that he very nearly won. I also gotta give Pixar props here for actually having the balls to show a character legitimately die on screen

(characters like Muntz falling to their death don’t count as we don’t actually see them die. But in Coco we see Hector ingest the poisoned drink, keel over, collapse, and die in the street. Like holy shit, that was dark as hell. I genuinely wasn’t expecting that when I first watched it.)

Overall I consider Coco to be one of the last truly good Pixar films. Don’t get me wrong, it’s not perfect, but I definitely wouldn’t put it in the same category as Luca or Turning Red. It probably helps that Lee Unkrich directed it (same guy who directed most of the Toy Story films, Monsters Inc/University, Finding Nemo and a few others).

 

[TVB]

Adult Swim's under jurisdiction of Discovery, too.

Makes no difference. Adult Swim manage to get Final Space after TBS' animation block was proven to be a colossal failure and both Adult Swim and TBS are from the same company.

 

[GGnoob1890]

> sees Coco

Oh c’mon, i actually thought Coco was really good. I’ve rewatched it a few times and have only grown to respect it more each time.

The soundtrack is great, the visuals are gorgeous, and the story was solid. I honestly thought the “generational trauma“ aspect of the film was handled a lot better than in Encanto (mainly the long-term effects, Alma in Encanto was still alive and well, whereas Imelda and a good portion of her immediate family were already long-dead).

Also, say what you will about the twist, but I personally really liked Ernesto as a villain. I actually consider him to be one of Pixar’s best villains due to how fucking scary he is imo - scary in the sense that he very nearly won. I also gotta give Pixar props here for actually having the balls to show a character legitimately die on screen

(characters like Muntz falling to their death don’t count as we don’t actually see them die. But in Coco we see Hector ingest the poisoned drink, keel over, collapse, and die in the street. Like holy shit, that was dark as hell. I genuinely wasn’t expecting that when I first watched it.)

Overall I consider Coco to be one of the last truly good Pixar films. Don’t get me wrong, it’s not perfect, but I definitely wouldn’t put it in the same category as Luca or Turning Red. It probably helps that Lee Unkrich directed it (same guy who directed most of the Toy Story films, Monsters Inc/University, Finding Nemo and a few others).

To be fair, Coco was creative, but it wasn't a masterpiece. I have to begrudgingly agree it was probably the last Pixar film that had a semi-decent run. (Hell of a lot better than the unpolished Encanto). Though it did kind of feel like it borrowed some visual elements from the Book of Life movie.

The generational trauma message flopped at the end to me, seeing as no one actually bothered to apologize to the boy, Miguel, about how shitty they treated him his whole life regarding music. (I would've been ecstatic if the boy had told his family off and the family had actually just sat down and thought about how shitty their actions were to him, but lol nope.)

The music was decent, but it just didn't really stick as well as other older Pixar films did. So maybe Coco gets a pass, but it's on thin ice in my book.

 

[Trashtaur]

To be fair, Coco was creative, but it wasn't a masterpiece. I have to begrudgingly agree it was probably the last Pixar film that had a semi-decent run. (Hell of a lot better than the unpolished Encanto). Though it did kind of feel like it borrowed some visual elements from the Book of Life movie.

The generational trauma message flopped at the end to me, seeing as no one actually bothered to apologize to the boy, Miguel, about how shitty they treated him his whole life regarding music. (I would've been ecstatic if the boy had told his family off and the family had actually just sat down and thought about how shitty their actions were to him, but lol nope.)

The music was decent, but it just didn't really stick as well as other older Pixar films did. So maybe Coco gets a pass, but it's on thin ice in my book.

yeah, I agree the ending could’ve been done a lot better - like I said I don’t think it’s perfect. I do think there should’ve been an apology at the end (tbf it probably happened off-screen but it would’ve been nice to see it regardless). That’s one thing I’ll give Encanto credit for, in that they actually have Alma realize what she did and have her genuinely apologize to Mirabel on her own terms. That’s not a story beat I see very often, and not one handled very well for that matter.

(aka the abusive/toxic parent figure actually goes out of their way to apologize to the protagonist and makes it up to them. Usually when that happens in a story the parent usually doesn’t actually change or face any consequences and just guilt-trips the protag into pitying them.)

 

[TVB]

I have no regrets saying this, Book of Life is still better than Coco.

 

[Amber the Hedgehog]

yeah, I agree the ending could’ve been done a lot better - like I said I don’t think it’s perfect. I do think there should’ve been an apology at the end (tbf it probably happened off-screen but it would’ve been nice to see it regardless).

I wasn't bothered by this the slightest, it wouldn't have fit the ending. The story hit it's strongest emotional low and high with Miguel signing to Coco and her remembering. That part was beautifully done and putting an extra scene there would have just eaten the impact. It was much better storytelling to implicate that family had fixed their mistakes with a time jump to next year where we see them celebrating together even if it's bittersweet because Coco had passed on. There is music, closeness and other signs that healing work has been going on, witch me is stronger than any verbal apology.

Spoiler: Slight power leveling

Maybe because I have fixed a relationship with a previously toxic parent. The apology was nice I guess witch I did get but what really mattered was the on going action. I lost my trust over time to a pattern of horrible experiences and I took years to trust that was really better. The change didn't happen over night on their part anyway. Learning new behaviors and finding correct medical care takes time so I'm not holding it against them but still. They never made it up to me, not because they didn't want to, they really did but how do you make up multiple little and big moments of stress and weirdness that went on years? I have no idea so we just moved on to better things because that is something we can do.

I have no regrets saying this, Book of Life is still better than Coco.

Personally I hate Book of life. It's not a bad movie exactly, just incredibly frustrating. The visual of wooden dolls has nothing in it, the museum set up was completely unnecessary just slowing the movie down, the love tringle was under used, the love intrest girl was a generic strong woman and the coolest characters were bearly there.

I'm not sure witch one I think is better, I find multiple big issues with both. Neither is horrible but neither is a masterpiece either.

 

[Corn Flakes]

I liked Coco. I'm not Latino but I grew up around a lot of that culture (and dated a Latina in high school) so I was familiar with a lot of the references and they felt pretty respectful. The music wasn't really my thing but the movie was competent. It wasn't a deliberate tearjerker like Up, but it did its job and I wasn't bored or annoyed with it.

Although the daughter-skeleton looking way older than the father and the mother skeletons at the end was more of a funny moment than a heartwarming moment.

 

[Trashtaur]

I wasn't bothered by this the slightest, it wouldn't have fit the ending. The story hit it's strongest emotional low and high with Miguel signing to Coco and her remembering. That part was beautifully done and putting an extra scene there would have just eaten the impact. It was much better storytelling to implicate that family had fixed their mistakes with a time jump to next year where we see them celebrating together even if it's bittersweet because Coco had passed on. There is music, closeness and other signs that healing work has been going on, witch me is stronger than any verbal apology.

Now that I think about it, yeah, you’re right, and I have to agree with you. Actions speak louder than words, and that’s something I think this film did beautifully here.

 

[Life is Hell...]

With the news of numerous cartoons getting kicked off of HBO Max for budgetary reasons, seems a lot of the people who worked on them... aren't taking this news too lightly.

 

[Corn Flakes]

I don't get it. Isn't this what always eventually happened before everything was streamed? If your cartoon didn't make it into syndication or reruns once it was canceled that was that. You just moved on to a new project. And a lot of projects never even got to the pilot stage. What are these people bitching about?

 

[Kari Kamiya]

>Disney axeing their cartoons for having Queer themes

I see nothing wrong with this except for that misspelling of "axing".

 

[Life is Hell...]

I don't get it. Isn't this what always eventually happened before everything was streamed? If your cartoon didn't make it into syndication or reruns once it was canceled that was that. You just moved on to a new project. And a lot of projects never even got to the pilot stage. What are these people bitching about?

Probably because big name corporations are earning money, and they aren't

 

[Shaka Brah]

Hey Jules, cool it with the antisemitic remarks!

 

[Newman's Lovechild]

Always a good idea to publically badmouth and wish violence upon your old boss while you're looking for a new boss.

 

[TVB]

With the news of numerous cartoons getting kicked off of HBO Max for budgetary reasons, seems a lot of the people who worked on them... aren't taking this news too lightly.
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I'd say they should stop making shitty baby anime-based beanmouth shows and create something original, or else the industry will go back to its dark ages. And while I agree that Zaslav is a shitty CEO, it's best they should never ever wish death upon or harass him, because this is completely unprofessional work behavior, and that's saying a lot with these mentally ill people that act as if they're animators.

 

[GGnoob1890]

With the news of numerous cartoons getting kicked off of HBO Max for budgetary reasons, seems a lot of the people who worked on them... aren't taking this news too lightly.
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I get that it sucks and all that HBO Max just suddenly removed shows and jobs with little to no warning (supposedly), but like maybe don't bite the hand that feeds you??
Companies lay off people all the time, it sucks, but that's what a lot of these animators fail to understand. At the end of the day tv media is a business, and if a show sucks or ya gotta trim the fat off, they're gonna kick whomever or whatever is the weakest link. Stop bitching and go apply for a job at the LA company next door.

I don't get it. Isn't this what always eventually happened before everything was streamed? If your cartoon didn't make it into syndication or reruns once it was canceled that was that. You just moved on to a new project. And a lot of projects never even got to the pilot stage. What are these people bitching about?

Agreed. Streaming/Television channels move/remove content all the time. Nothing new here. These people are screaming into the void.

Always a good idea to publicly badmouth and wish violence upon your old boss while you're looking for a new boss.

The internet is forever. Your new boss can and will find your OnlyFans Twitter.

I'd say they should stop making shitty baby anime-based beanmouth shows and create something original, or else the industry will go back to its dark ages. And while I agree that Zaslav is a shitty CEO, it's best they should never ever wish death upon or harass him, because this is completely unprofessional work behavior, and that's saying a lot with these mentally ill people that act as if they're animators.

It is indeed unprofessional to bitch and complain the way these people are. Though they'll probably end up with a new job next week due to the neurodegenerate hive-mind of mentally ill 'animators' vouching for them; claiming the complaints were all 'stress-related actions' and that they cannot be held accountable for when they decide to throw a hissy-fit.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Decided to look up these whiny artists to see what kind of talent they have.

There's talent here, but oh boy do they squander it. Only picking out a handful of what I can get from them.

Spoiler: Jules

Seeing Hanyuu kills me, I like finding Higurashi fans but not like this.

Spoiler: Ariel

Bonus: Etsy and she(?) looks crazy.

Spoiler: Ashe

Only drawn art of the tranny's I can find without a Twitter account. Have its abandoned Twitch that's still listed on Twitter.

Spoiler: Betsy

Here's her art portfolio. Her art is exactly what you think it looks like.

Our incestuous animation industry, everyone.

 

[Colon capital V]

If they decide to act like pissy commies out in public, then I feel a liitle less bad about the HBO axing.
Still weird as shit decision though.

 

[Newman's Lovechild]

Stop bitching and learn to code.

FTFY

neurodegenerate

I ain't fixing that though. I like it.