Cartoon Industry thread - Showcasing the Spergery of the Animation Industry

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Golly Bo-Bolly said:
Nico also was the voice of said boy, also Vivziepop worked on this show too.
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How does this keep happening!?
 
I have to say, I don't even know who the fuck half of these people are (except Vivienne Medrano & Kyle A. Carrozza). I see one schizophrenic fuckwit, a pedophile who got arrested, and then a bunch of people who seem like they are outright copying other people's ideas. Now - I know some say "plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattering", yet how do you draw the line between stealing and plagiarism? What? How? Why? Where? Who? When?
 
Outer Space Traveller said:
I have to say, I don't even know who the fuck half of these people are (except Vivienne Medrano & Kyle A. Carrozza). I see one schizophrenic fuckwit, a pedophile who got arrested, and then a bunch of people who seem like they are outright copying other people's ideas. Now - I know some say "plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattering", yet how do you draw the line between stealing and plagiarism? What? How? Why? Where? Who? When?
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For me, it's one thing to be inspired by something and use it as springboard to make it your own, but the line between "using direct inspiration nods with elements of your own thing and make something original" and "deep down tracing something detail by detail or word by word and claim it's your own" is very CLEAR.

If you compare Cuphead to Fleischer Cartoons, there's a whole lot of homage to the '30s cartoons but with the video game sensibility, direction and interaction. You can literally tell it's a well thought out homage instead of a blatant ripoff.

But if you compare Cuphead to Enchanted Portals (another Fleisher-inspired video game), Portals is absolutely ripping the game off detail by detail, action by action.
 
Gingervitis said:
I don’t get why these people are so obsessed with sleepovers. I’ve only ever had one in elementary school. Kids really don’t have them at all.
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Well if you're young and had a few friends in the 90s/00s, kids would do sleepovers just to have fun and whatever. But now I can't think a kid would want to go out to see others face to face when online voice chat exists.
 
Life is Hell... said:
New Animation Guild PSA about the Streaming Wars is out.
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I wholeheartedly agree that the streaming wars are one of the primary reasons that animation has taken such a massive hit over the past 5ish years. However, part of that also means that companies are not at the mercy of advertisers, and thus are willing to give the creatives more power. There's just one problem. The "creatives" they've given more power to since there's less of a risk are the people we've been discussing in this very thread.

Yada yada yada, "the consequences of your actions", blah blah blah, "Indie YT animation is doing donuts around you because you're all a bunch of pozzed egomaniacs who can't make good shows for crap", so on and so on...

(Amazed they got Roger Craig Smith for this. Assuming that is him and not AI. Cause if it is... :story:)
 
Ever hear of the 24 Hour Animation Challenge?
It’s an annual event for high school and college students that offers big prizes and material perks for participation to teams that can pull together and make a high quality 30 second short in a 24 hour window:

24 HOURS Animation Contest for Students is a free international event where students around the world compete in teams of 5 to complete a 30 second animated film in just 24 Hours based on a given theme chosen by Aubry Mintz, the founder of this contest….

We are thrilled to announce we are in our 22nd year, and more than 12,000 students from 213 schools and 33 countries have benefited from participating through the years. This year 7 teams will win one of our amazing prize packs (last year totaling over $180K!)

Interesting, right? So who are these people and what do they do?

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Well shit!
So what kind of theme have these professionals chosen to ask over 200 teams of future animators to respond to?

How AI is going to destroy your job prospects!

Check out this rambling horseshit “prompt”:
Jeffrey Katzenberg (CEO and co-founder of DreamWorks) predicts that A.I. Will Eliminate 90 Percent of Artist Jobs on Animated Films.

Criticism over AI use was a major part of the writers, actors and animation artists strikes of
And yet, in Avengers: Age of Ultron, Tony Stark tries to use AI to protect the world, only for that AI to take over and try to exterminate the human race. And in an interesting bleak twist of fate – Marvel’s Secret Invasion was the first major Hollywood show to use AI to help create the opening credits. While AI can be seen as an Art Heist, some artists are using AI in an innovative way, leaving complete control with the artist, allowing them a tool to create new works and processes that has never been seen before and building creative collaboration without theft. In a broader scale, the potential of helping humans is unlimited if we allow the right tech into the right hands. There is evidence of AI being used to help the disabled – i.e. Assisting with accessible transportation options, translate distorted speech patterns into fluent conversations for people with brain damage, robotic process automation (RPA), which can automate repetitive tasks for those with movement disabilities, AI to transcribe conversations for those with hearing impairments, visually impaired individuals can read with AI braille.
Also – on a global scale, translation tools to assist employees who speak different languages in communicating with each other.
But the reverse is true as AI could be used for nefarious reasons, theft, job replacement, loss of income potentially leading to the worst case scenario: homelessness and even death.
Or do our fears outweigh the potential and is there a world where humans and technology truly fuse together? Where humans keep control and intelligently evolve to make the world a better place?
Or will tech take over and make unrepairable damage replacing humans as we know it?
Are we making a deal with the tech devil or is this the deal of a century?

In 24 HOURS make a 30 second film giving your teams vision for the future with AI as a friend or a foe and show how our world might fail or benefit from its evolution.

You have 24 HOURS….

TL:DR, the Wheels and Roses idiots are using their clout to get student animators churning out propaganda. Failing upward as always!
 
Life is Hell... said:
New Animation Guild PSA about the Streaming Wars is out.
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I don't understand what the Animation Guild is trying to accomplish with these PSAs. They aren't striking or have any bargaining chips like the Writer's guild stoping talk shows and major blockbusters with the Actor's Guild. Their only plan since spring is have people talk about cartoons loud and long enough like it's magic words for the suits to spontaneously agree during negotiations? What even are the demands other than better pay, no job creep and don't cancel cartoons after one season?
KeatonKoopa said:
Haven't they heard of physical media?
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Pay up and don't ask questions, just consume product.
 
I_Am_Not_Bruce_Willis said:
I wholeheartedly agree that the streaming wars are one of the primary reasons that animation has taken such a massive hit over the past 5ish years. However, part of that also means that companies are not at the mercy of advertisers, and thus are willing to give the creatives more power. There's just one problem. The "creatives" they've given more power to since there's less of a risk are the people we've been discussing in this very thread.

Yada yada yada, "the consequences of your actions", blah blah blah, "Indie YT animation is doing donuts around you because you're all a bunch of pozzed egomaniacs who can't make good shows for crap", so on and so on...

(Amazed they got Roger Craig Smith for this. Assuming that is him and not AI. Cause if it is... :story:)
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Turns out they did get him....
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chalkyresidue said:
TL:biggrin:R, the Wheels and Roses idiots are using their clout to get student animators churning out propaganda. Failing upward as always!
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It does say to vision the future of AI as either friend or foe, so there's a high chance a lot of these younger animators are going to do some interesting things with the concept that'll make W&R seethe. I bet a lot of these students have no fucking idea about or don't even care for the brigade against AI in animation circles.
 
Golly Bo-Bolly said:
I don't understand what the Animation Guild is trying to accomplish with these PSAs. They aren't striking or have any bargaining chips like the Writer's guild stoping talk shows and major blockbusters with the Actor's Guild. Their only plan since spring is have people talk about cartoons loud and long enough like it's magic words for the suits to spontaneously agree during negotiations? What even are the demands other than better pay, no job creep and don't cancel cartoons after one season?
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Their goal is to basically get yaoi fanart of the two characters. They even have "Say no to AI and yes to yaoi". It's completely retarded.

chalkyresidue said:
TL:biggrin:R, the Wheels and Roses idiots are using their clout to get student animators churning out propaganda. Failing upward as always!
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For something like that, this industry being pozzed really deserves to die... or I wonder if that's all part of "the plan"...?
 
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