Cartoon Industry thread - Showcasing the Spergery of the Animation Industry

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Colon capital V said:
Don't care, L, Skill Issue, cope, seethe, mald, dilate, shouldn't have lived in LA.
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Yeah, a lot of these wokies lost their homes because of the whole fire... case in point, Jeremy Polgar.
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And what happened to him recently?
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I'm sad about Steven Universe, because I genuinely loved the show and still do, but the "CRINGE FAGGOT CHARACTERS CRYING" thing is all it's remembered as by anybody who isn't a cringe crying faggot. It's embarrassing to admit to enjoying it because it has this reputation of "well ain't you a dangerhair pronounhaver" that precedes it. I kind of wish there hadn't been any gay representation in the show at all so it could just be seen as a Cartoon Network show, not as this benchmark of "everything wrong with everything forever."
 
Chromeo said:
I'm sad about Steven Universe, because I genuinely loved the show and still do, but the "CRINGE FAGGOT CHARACTERS CRYING" thing is all it's remembered as by anybody who isn't a cringe crying faggot. It's embarrassing to admit to enjoying it because it has this reputation of "well ain't you a dangerhair pronounhaver" that precedes it. I kind of wish there hadn't been any gay representation in the show at all so it could just be seen as a Cartoon Network show, not as this benchmark of "everything wrong with everything forever."
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Honest question, what about it did you like so much. Occasionally you'll see someone admitting to liking it but everything I've seen from that damn property really IS "everything wrong with the last 11 years".
I mean, I like shit that people accuse of being a blight on society but SU really seems to be on another level.
 
Chromeo said:
I'm sad about Steven Universe, because I genuinely loved the show and still do, but the "CRINGE FAGGOT CHARACTERS CRYING" thing is all it's remembered as by anybody who isn't a cringe crying faggot. It's embarrassing to admit to enjoying it because it has this reputation of "well ain't you a dangerhair pronounhaver" that precedes it. I kind of wish there hadn't been any gay representation in the show at all so it could just be seen as a Cartoon Network show, not as this benchmark of "everything wrong with everything forever."
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The actual idea of a Human Alien Hybrid being raised by aliens and having to navigate both sides could have been interesting if they leaned into the action and worldbuilding instead of a lesbian space rock drama
 
Coolio55 said:
Honest question, what about it did you like so much. Occasionally you'll see someone admitting to liking it but everything I've seen from that damn property really IS "everything wrong with the last 11 years".
I mean, I like shit that people accuse of being a blight on society but SU really seems to be on another level.
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In the early seasons I appreciated how Steven acted like an actual child and not just "grown-up acting perfectly logically in a child's body." It's hard to explain that part without citing every specific, but he really felt like an actual child/actual human person. Throughout the entire show, however, there were a lot of high points. The music was good, the illustration in the backgrounds and the primary style were beautiful. Yes it's still got CalArts beanmouth, but look at the way characters' hands are drawn so intricately and technically, the way Pearl moves in three dimensions when she dances or fights, the way sloppy things are sloppy and floaty things are floaty. Rose's dress, flower petals, clouds/explosions, color palettes and set designs. The worldbuilding was phenomenal and sets were awe-inspiring at times (like the sky arena or the warp pads or when Lapis raised the whole ocean into space.) Steven Universe could be fucking stupid and poorly executed at times, but it could also be beautiful.
And when you get to the writing, holy shit the worldbuilding. Not just how cool gems are as a species/concept/whatever, but the way the story unfolded over time. You didn't get fed all the info in the first season, you learned what gems were, who our gems were, why they were here, what the war was, what the extent of it was, what/who the diamonds were, all this stuff over the course of years. Characters weren't 100% Good or Bad, they could be complicated! They could fucking suck! And the way that the gems' species allowed for both crazy cool weapons and beautiful transformations and absolutely horrifying body horror and all this other stuff, it all worked together so cool! THEN the way you could watch older episodes back and realize there was foreshadowing or something that you couldn't have known but now you see all of this was planned from the very beginning, that was awesome! It gave you REASONS to go back and watch reruns and old episodes instead of just throwing them out because they're not the latest release.
A lot of the stuff Steven Universe did well is stuff I'm sure anime already does/has done, but it just wasn't done in Western media. Especially Western media aimed "at kids," which encompasses literal toddler programming up to things like Batman TAS, which I'm sure you already know about why that's stupid and frustrating and how it kneecaps animation in the West. Steven Universe had a lot of problems, and some of it's because it was Rebecca Sugar's first show and I don't think she totally knew how to lead a big project like that, and some of it's because the Network didn't like the gay shit or wanted to force everyone to use the CN app so the airings were all fucked up and things were censored/couldn't be aired overseas, bla bla bla, and then some of it's because the animation industry is all liberal college people and it's gonna have Current Year woke shit in it because obviously. But despite that, I think Steven Universe was, at its best, a really fascinating, exciting, beautiful, awesome show that had artistic merit both as "just a cartoon aimed at kids" and as something that people poured their hearts and souls into.

Then there's the shit that appeals to me personally, like the fact everybody is a mineral. I'm huge into minerals, always have been, and so when Steven Universe came out it was like YOOO THAT'S MY THING!! Still drives me insane how they pronounced Lapis Lazuli and Peridot wrong, but whatever lol. And I can't fully powerlevel this one, so forgive me for how vague this sounds, but there's a thing I experience irl and have experienced my entire life that people don't really grok, but Steven Universe had it from the jump and it hit me like a brick shithouse. I never thought any media (let alone a cartoon on national TV) would ever mention [X], but Steven Universe had it front and center!! I'm not some kind of tumblrina who insists on being represented everywhere re: [X] because that would be weird, and I'm mature and get that my [X] isn't common and it's just a me problem and that's FINE, but to actually have someone else acknowledge my [X] was shocking in a good way. I remember working retail a couple years back when SU was still airing, and this little girl looks at me, looks back at her mom, and goes "Mommy look! She's [X] just like on Steven Universe!!" That interaction stuck out to me so much, I still think about it. My [X] isn't even some kind of big politicized deal, so if I feel like this over some small inconsequential thing, I can't imagine how it must feel for someone who's a lesbian space rock or an Indian swordfighter or some other actual thing represented in Steven Universe.
Aurora Unit 242 said:
The actual idea of a Human Alien Hybrid being raised by aliens and having to navigate both sides could have been interesting if they leaned into the action and worldbuilding instead of a lesbian space rock drama
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I still kind of want them to make a threequel (?) series where it's just life on Homeworld so we can see what things are like for the gems outside of wars and Steven-inspired hoopla.
 
Chromeo said:
I still kind of want them to make a threequel (?) series where it's just life on Homeworld so we can see what things are like for the gems outside of wars and Steven-inspired hoopla.
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Hell, make a prequel series following Pink on homeworld and have the series end with her first time on earth. So you could see how their world was and actually be able to understand the diamonds rather then being 1 dimensional space hitlers.
 
Chromeo said:
what gems were, who our gems were, why they were here, what the war was
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I've said it elsewhere, but my headcanon was that Steven's lesbian family were not rebels but disgraced colonial officials - and that the reason they feared homeworld was purely because they had lost the colony. It was only the fact of being stuck on Earth that they gradually decided it was worth saving - so now they spent their days cleaning up the remnants.

Unfortunately it went the 'talking solves everything' blubbering vagina route.

There was a lot to appreciate about the show but a lot of it was Fan Theory and not the show itself. Eg. The idea that gems were originally a Terraforming AI from a now dead civilization, which was just continuing its mission but had achieved a degree of self-awareness.
 
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