Census 2023: Political Identity

How do you self-identify politically?

  • Apolitical or Undecided

    Votes: 590 11.5%
  • Authoritarian

    Votes: 338 6.6%
  • Conservative

    Votes: 852 16.6%
  • Centrist

    Votes: 767 15.0%
  • Liberal

    Votes: 349 6.8%
  • Progressive

    Votes: 236 4.6%
  • Libertarian or "Classical Liberal"

    Votes: 842 16.4%
  • Anarchist

    Votes: 160 3.1%
  • Other

    Votes: 642 12.5%
  • Refuse to Answer

    Votes: 350 6.8%

  • Total voters
    5,126
  • Poll closed .
Politics are soundly gay as well as a waste of time. Picked apolitical, due to the fact that I truly and honestly could not care. Both sides have their heads up their asses, and I want nothing to do with it. Government can do whatever it wants as long as it doesn’t bother me.
 
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Freedom is just degeneracy wearing a self righteous mask. I support whoever and whatever delivers us to an golden age of brutalistic space racist imperialism
I can’t tell if this is serious or some weird parody of We by Yevgeny Zamyatin lmao. Anyways, that’s my book recommendation for anyone who likes dystopian novels.
 
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I don't consider myself anything and don't believe in any economic system other than the loathing of far-left ideology that is in my blood so I answered apolitical/undecided. "Anticommunist" would have been a suitable answer for me.

I'm surprised there are so many "classical liberals" here. I think the general geist of the farms makes the more right wing people more prominent, but I like that since you get left wing shit blasted up your butt everywhere else (e.g., reddit) so it's a nice change of pace, especially with how histrionic the left is these days. But I guess the left wingers that never bought into race/gender-centered identity politics don't really have a home for themselves anymore. In some ways the left hates them worse of all since they make the left-wing coalition more moderate as a whole, and they want radicalism. (Same reason anarchists hate Libertarians).
 
I guess the left wingers that never bought into race/gender-centered identity politics don't really have a home for themselves anymore
obviously josh himself has his own beliefs which shape the farms to a certain degree, but i think the biggest factor in the OVERALL tone of the farms is what ideas or conversations are being censored elsewhere on the net.

when big tech started cracking down on overt racism we got a big surge of refugee racists, when it became forbidden to call a troon male we got a big surge in TERFs, etc.

i could be wrong but i feel like the right-wing reputation of the farms is overstated. i think it's more that KF is (or was, twitter does seem to have changed) one of relatively few sites where fascists can talk openly without being banned
 
obviously josh himself has his own beliefs which shape the farms to a certain degree, but i think the biggest factor in the OVERALL tone of the farms is what ideas or conversations are being censored elsewhere on the net.

i feel like when big tech started cracking down on overt racism we got a big surge of refugee racists, when it became forbidden to call a trans lady a dude we got a big surge in TERFs, etc.

representatives of more extreme ideologies have been here all along, but I feel like the larger-scale composition of KF changes as more ideas and conversations that used to be semi-acceptable in the mainstream are forbidden by the platforms where they used to take place.
On the communities I was a moderator for Once Upon a Time, with a very hands-off moderation policy, that's exactly what happened. Having too much of a hands-off policy regarding that though totally changes the community in bad ways, there's a reason Josh was kind of lamenting some of the people coming in here for the "alt" forums instead of the cows (people like me, I suppose--but where else do I go?)
You guys know things are probably going to get worse, right? IRL, I hang around with more normal and regular people, including women. I know their insane politics. The more insane they are, the more motivated they are to get into politics. We really are headed for some dark times. If the very serious ramifications of what's coming distress you, then I advise you to center yourself, find something that the world cannot take from you to enjoy, and turn your back on society. Don't be afraid to stand out and be laughed at or ridiculed. Let yourself hate this society, your disgust is your strength. Nobody cares about what a scat-eater is yelling at you when they're spraying shit out of their mouth while doing so. There is a burgeoning left-wing authoritarian movement growing, Bolshevik-esque sentiments truly are bubbling around in the consciousness of Gen Z and Millennials. AOC was just a taste of what is to come.

They will try to change you. Since most of you are modern day heretics still it's likely most people on the farms are a little less resistant to peer pressure. The reason most people ever believe what they do is the expectations of their peers and of the people they respect. They're not like us, weirdos, outcasts, losers, insomniacs, or bored readers that just devour ideas on the rhetoric and see a lot of different things in different places. They have a life on rails and they become what they're told. Most people are shamed into their positions, or they see other people react with very strong emotions to something and that's how they "learn" something is right or wrong. Later generations (if we're lucky) will recognize what we see today as obvious and boorish propaganda, the same way "If you ride alone, you ride with Hitler!" shit. You ever watch old 1950s or 1960s advertisements and laugh at how dumb they are? That was propaganda that was designed for the spirit of the age and the culture of the times. Nowadays it's just evolved, and far-leftwingers have no imagination (that's why their grab bag of social problems is short-listed to "capitalism" and "racism" and "fascism" if not outright equating all three as the same thing because they like simple and easy narratives). Don't ever let the laughing and mockery of your peers get to you or affect you. Remember, they're all fucking shit eaters. Look at what they consume--superheroes, autotuned rap music, movies designed to sell you a franchise.

Many of us will increasingly find outselves alone and isolated by our peer groups. This is by design. They want you alone. They are excluding you until you submit and speak with their voice. Just think of all the people you used to knew that were shitlords but now say mealy-mouthed woke things. They were forced to conform and they were too weak or greedy to resist.

Sorry for my always-long digressions but the person I am in the Farms is not the person anyone knows in real life and I simply cannot express my doubts about the world anywhere else. People who say, "this is just internet shit" themselves life online because I can assure you that it is most definitely not just an online phenomenon, and this isn't the 90s, what appears online doesn't stay online anymore.
 
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I would like to vote "conservative" so much, but I guess that if I had to choose between conservative and "libertarian or 'classical liberal'", I think I have to go with the label of classical liberal.
It's regretful though. Raging faggots who misconstrue liberalism with being allowed to do whatever the fuck they want without judgement and repercussions have since long ago infiltrated the ranks.
 
Which one is closest to a tranmisic, homomisic, antisemitic, islamomisic misogynist of a white supremacist who wants small and heavily situationally dependent government with a set of certain rights considered inalienable for white citizens (especially recreational missile drones and machinegun robots for everyone and free speech) and totalitarian authoritarian violence against lghdtv, muslims, jews, and browns solely on those factors to where they are not allowed to exist, and women are forbidden from the military or police, and can be refused employment solely due to their being a female, accompanied by total refusal of all nonwhite immigrants and extremely strict immigration for a limited number of whites?
 
Sure leftist principles are great and all but do you really want to socialize with anarchists? Give me a nice rowdy bierhalle over a hacky-sack circle any day.
You do realise that socialising with people you might not like (which you do everyday at work, school, parties, family events etc.) is far less of a nuisance than having your freedom taken away, right? Or perhaps you need to get better at shitposting.
 
(Yeah - I know, I'm rather late to the party to say the least; but anyways, here's my input as I intended and procrasinated on.)

I was previously a card carrying leftoid - somewhere ambiguously between the cusp of your dime a dozen DNCer of the timeframe to explicit che-tee-grade, RATM-listening cringelord pinkoist tendencies (down to openly being pro-LGBTQ+ - bare in mind this was in the latter 00's prior to this stuff even being widely and outwardly accepted among democrats) in my earlier teens, living in my bumfuck 'bakersfield-lite'-esque shithole hometown - which was demographically split between your classic staunch religious rightoids + some of the most caricatural flavors of macho lumpenproletariat scum; tweakerville pretty much. Trailer trash, wiggers, kyles, juggalos, floridaman-adjacents and ghetto trash cholos for days.

My political views were a bit resent-driven, rooted in my rebellion/retaliation/contrarianism against the bullying/abuse/dysfunction I was subjected to around the timeframe by those affiliated by said demographics; and the general overbearing & aggressive anti-dubya, euphoric (le)dora atheist sentiments that were present and all over the internet/forums of the timeframe influencing/enabling me as well. Though as things progressed throughout HS - I kind of identified in flux between right wing liber(tard)ian and dead centrist optics for the sake of avoiding and mending drama between my end and others; while the 'spirit' persisted to linger underneath the surface of things.

A ton of the post-SJW/woke/tumblrina/buzzfeed strain idpol shifts that emerged in substantial cultural/institutional batches about a decade ago definitely kind of left a sour taste in my mouth - though I was also simultaneously binded between that and having to appease the immense emotional guilt tripping + the co-occuring neckbeard shaming wave frequently deployed among wokes really playing into my insecurities real well; speaking as an extremely low self esteemed, self-hating autist. I really bottled up a ton of my sentiments and certain traumas by generally rolling with many facets of woke indoctrination as time slipped onwards.

Anyways - as cultural goalposts of the left continuously shifted to naively destructive extremities; and on my impersonal scale of things - witnessing/dealing with *so* many reprehensibly shitty, fake, shallow, calculated, toxic and all around awful people (including some of the most malignantly homophobic, bravado posturing schoolyard bully types from my HS grad class who gave me the real shit end of the stick and broke my brain) latching themselves to Wokeism as it entered the spotlight - I definitely started feeling major disillusionment with the general state of the nu-left.

I suppose if I were to define my political identity; I suppose I would fall under an amalgamation of stupidpol/anti-idpol/class conscious leftism, political homelessness/political apathy - and the 'radical acceptance'-pill at this point.

As far as political matters go; I would much rather take the angle of 'culturally greyrocking' the clownworldified noise of politics on both ends - and it's probably moreso a matter of accepting the external/tangible circumstances of life/the system; maneuvering around whatever obstacles come your way; avoiding/otherwise tiptoeing around the warzones, and surrounding yourself with very milquetoast, middle of the road grey-thinkers who for the most part are -also- blocking out the many decibels of autistic screeching & drama cranking up outdoors.

However; I will affirm from my personal experiences...it's easier said than done, considering how many people are relapsing and derailing into craziness. Either that, or perhaps another angle to look at here is that I am just unlucky enough to consistently wind up sharing proximities with 'bad apples' + pessimistically projecting from my traumas, and using that to support my depressive cynicism.

One way to look at the greater picture of things: narcissists, sociopaths and dark triad individuals love to install themselves into any established frameworks that operate on the levels of stiff, batshit linearity; and what I am witnessing among the neu-right and neu-left respectively seems accommodating to their sensibilities.

I think the best assessment here is to to assume the worst and grill up. Show's over.
 
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I guess I would be considered close to Bukharin. People should have basic necessities but the whole destroying cultures of the nations they live in to be a homogenous glob. It's hard to pinpoint where I belong because economically I would be liberal but socially I am conservative but also very libertarian. I don't think that it's really possible to label your politics if you actually understand politics. The whole red vs blue is what destroyed the U.S, politics are far more intricate and shit only gets through by keeping people ignorant and stroking tensions over nothingburgers.
 
It's sad that there are twice as many authoritarians than anarchists on this site, of all places.
A solid 80-90% of people who screech that the Farms must be taken down are communists and anarchists, plus 21st century anarchism is full of trannies. Why should we side with tranny pederasts that want the site gone?
 
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