Changes & Sub-Forums for Lolcow

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Which changes do you like?

  • Part 1 - Lets split out the threads.

    Votes: 53 67.1%

  • Part 2 - Lets give some space for Parkourdude91 and the Love-Shies.

    Votes: 47 59.5%

  • Part 3 - I don't like the term "Lolcow", either.

    Votes: 29 36.7%

  • I don't like any of the ideas (at least as they are currently proposed).

    Votes: 7 8.9%
  • Total voters
    79
I'm fine with the term lolcow and don't see the problem with it. It's not the most positive of descriptions, sure, but I fail to see why that would be bad? They're amusing people and therefore get discussed on a board that has "lol" in it's name. I say it's fairly accurate.
 
I don't think lolcow necessarily has a bad connotation - it's supposed to be just someone who constantly generates lols. I acknowledge that this is used with a strong connotation, but I don't believe that's necessarily the case. I think it's futile to try and redefine a term that's widely used.

I don't really hangout in Lolcow. I'm not a big fan of Lolcow as I think there are plenty of places where you can discuss lolcows other than Chris. HOWEVER, I've come to realize that there's a demand for this, that there are people who would like to talk about other lolcows on here too and that's why we have the subforum. I'm not crazy about creating subforums to specific groups, as I don't want to draw ire from these groups to seem like we're targeting them, and I don't want to get too sidetrack from our mission to be a Chris forum, BUT I also believe in giving people what they want. The love shy and wizardchan threads are like, ungodly long, I don't think any Chris forum thread is as long as them, it might make sense to at least make a subforum to dedicate to those people, not so much to target them but simply to give people a less crowded place to discuss them.

As always, my concern is to avoid a cannabalistic nature to the lolcow forum. I don't want it to be a place for people to put out personal army requests. The problem with /cow/ is that people come there with an personal vendetta and often times troll shielding themselves. Extending the A-Logging rule to Lolcow wouldn't be bad.
 
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We're pretty good at keeping the troll shielder's out for the most part.
 
I wouldn't be against creating two separate forums. one for single lolcows and one for lolherds. Personally I don't think options 2 and 3 are neccessary. I'm not personally bothered by the word lolcow, but if many others want to change that word, then I'm ok with it. What I do feel is that we would benefit from splitting up the lolcow thread to groups and individuals, I think that is the simplest way of addressing the situation.

What I propose is that we do just that, and see how it works out. If necessary, in the future, to add one of the other options to the first.
 
I think the only change I can understand is splitting the lolcows and lolherds into individual sub-forums. Partially because it's getting a little too clusterfucked. But also because the Love-shies and Parkourdude don't need their own sub-forums on a message board about OPL and his family.
 
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I suppose lolcow is also inaccurate. Lolcow implies that they'll make you laugh. Some of these people usually just cause eyebrow raising.
 
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champthom said:
I don't think lolcow necessarily has a bad connotation - it's supposed to be just someone who constantly generates lols. I acknowledge that this is used with a strong connotation, but I don't believe that's necessarily the case. I think it's futile to try and redefine a term that's widely used.
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Yeah, I've noticed that you never post here and there was a strong initial disagreement about the board. The problem is that it's going to come to a make or break point: Either this area of the board can grow to compensate for Chris' deflation, or the community will just start to die. I think the amount of average users has at least doubled since this time last year, and that's due to a higher retainer rate. We have about 1900 registered members and on average 300 people visit the forum every day.

There were 2 big changes I was keen to make last year:
1. Venue for talking about other people. This was in clear demand because threads would exist in General already, but a lot of Chris threads arose with titles like "Pixyteri: The female Chris?"
2. General/Off-Topic became visible to everyone (although not readable). This is a big deal because when I first joined I saw the boards as sort of creepy because there was no real socialization aside from the Chris. After General opened up to me I felt more comfortable, but up until that point I thought it was 100% Chris All Day Every Day.

I think both of these factors increased livelihood.

champthom said:
As always, my concern is to avoid a cannabalistic nature to the lolcow forum. I don't want it to be a place for people to put out personal army requests. The problem with /cow/ is that people come there with an personal vendetta and often times troll shielding themselves. Extending the A-Logging rule to Lolcow wouldn't be bad.
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I think we're inherently less predisposed to attack each other because of the innate nature of forums. We have identities here, and when problems arise we deal with it. We've learned from PvtRichardCranium and know that we need to take care of problem users sooner. I'd like to encourage more use of the report feature from general users when they encounter a-logging/troll-shielding/general faggotry. I think that both users and mods mistake any use of the report / warning system as a be-all-end-all and we never take care of issues until after they've already blown up. Learning to spot shit like that ahead of time would make life easier.
 
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Regarding lol-cows, I don't mind the term but I do feel it would be nice be nice to separate individual lol-cows such as ParkourDude91 from lol-cow groups such as love-shys or bronies by placing them in a lol-cow sub-forum.
 
Just going with option 1 will free up room for more threads to rotate through on page one, but won't really solve the problem of threads themselves being too long. So I'd go with options 1 and 2 together I guess. Just so long as Chris continues to get a higher level of recognition than any other specific topic, as he does currently.
 
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I don't think it's an awful thing that people want to talk about lolcows here, again I agree with Null that we should be responsive to the demands of the community and that there clearly was a demand for lolcow threads. My thing is that I ultimately want this to be a place where people talk about Chris, even if it's not what's primarily done here.

People don't realize but on PVCC, nobody really talks about Chris anymore. I'd say 90% of the discussion is in the many general forums (there's like a dozen different subforums), 9.95% on the trolling board (like our lolcow forum, but they talk about trolling), and the remaining 0.05% is Chris. Discussion about Chris is mostly relegated to someone posting an update and a person or two saying "Huh, no idea Chris was still doing stuff" or someone posting something indepth and a few people calling said person a sperg for doing so. PVCC is an extremely tight knit community but my issue is that there are people who join the board who have no idea who Chris is - they just heard from a friend that it's a tight knight community and they want in. I at least want people to know that the focus is Chris, even if it's in name only.

It's very well possible that one day, the regulars here will get bored about talking about Chris. PVCC got bored around 2010, /cwc/ became /cow/ in 2011 because people were getting bored about Chris. I think though that ultimately, there are going to be people just discovering Chris and I made the forum to provide such people with a place to talk about Chris without being drowned out in other threads. Perhaps we'll become a public version of PVCC, one of my goals was to provide people a place to talk about Chris that anyone could join and I think maybe in that respect, it'll become a public PVCC where it's Chris related in name only pretty much. Not that that's a bad thing.
 
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I'd like for Chris to be kind of the core course, and then everyone branches out into their own interests, but they maintain that shared commonality of interest in, and familiarity of, OPL.
 
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Oh God, we lost like 20 pages...
 
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lost that post about that weirdo who worked at my college I saw dressing like a fool at that Christmas party ;(
 
I just scrolled through the Wizard Watch thread (which was split from LoveShy) and I don't see any posts not involving him. If there are they're totally lost in the mess.

If you want to find a specific post, open the thread, enter your own name as the author (or whomever the author was), and check the "Search this thread only" box. You'll find it. PM me the URL.
 
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