Changing the Default Human Nature, The Default Human Job

Jhonny Jhon

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A hundred years ago, if you were to walk around the streets, and greet a passerby, in the majority of time, that passerby would be married.

If you met a doctor, he would probably be married. If you met a plumber, he would probably be married too. If you met a soldier, he would be married too. Thus, through observation, we can assume that the natural default of a man is to be a Husband, to be a Father.

Now, let's say that you're meeting a bunch of women instead, what do you find in those streets of a hundred years ago? The same thing. She may be a musician, but she will still be a wife. She may be a nurse, but she will still be a wife. She may be a doctor, but she will be a wife. The average woman was a wife, a mother.

What am I trying to say is that being a soldier, a programmer, a doctor, a nurse, a musician, those are all additions to the basic human nature, the JOB that is to be Husband and Wife, Father and Mother. And the more I see what sort of programming is fed to the common people, the more I realize that those-in-power want to change this.

At the moment, I cannot guess what going to be man's new default job, default nature. I expect it to be something like a mixture of coomer+coward+consumer, retards who care only for pleasure and buy dozens of collectibles from their favorite media.

But I can guess very well what is the goal with women. Those-in-power do not want women to be Wives or Mothers, they want them all to be whores. The future they envision is one where women have no love in their hearts, and sell their bodies constantly.

You meet a random girl on the street, she will be a whore. You're in dentist, instead of warnings against sugar, there will be an ad for her onlyfans on the wall. You greet a waitress, she tells you her rates for a meal together.

Am I schizo-ing or does this make sense? I sort of just had this thought when I saw these Olympian athletes doing promotion for their onlyfans. Maybe I'm being insane, idk.
 
Yeah, that's about right. We were all oppressed back when we had families, and now that we're all whores, we're liberated and creating GDP (but not a new generation of new GDP-creators, so we need open borders).
 
I don't agree that the "natural default" of a man/woman is to be married and have children, not with those words. It was common (and still is) because of traditional values amongst other things, but times change, so I also don't agree that it's "human nature", since there are many different facets to that, and can even be contradictory depending on the specific individual.

This actually reminded me of something I was looking at again, the memes (the ones spoken by Richard Dawkins, amongst other people).

The "cultural genes", the ideas, behaviour, traditions, etc that get passed on through generations and persist (or not), in a Darwinian environment.

So basically, the reigning memes of today's society that I see in general are obsession with sex, consumerism, irrationalism (specially in the field of politics), etc.
You think the ones on the rise now are enticing people to behave like whores & coomers, and you'd be right, but not to that degree (at least not yet, for your dentist example).

I think that your feelings are not entirely on track, but slightly so. Learning about degenerates on the Internet is more visible now than ever, OnlyFans is a thing that is constantly being brought up, and I swear I cannot stop seeing coomers in any freaking YouTube livestream, even if the footage has nothing sexual in nature, everything is about sex.

So I think human society is becoming weaker and stupider, but you should not focus on that. Behave in a way that you see fair, just, beautiful and rational, and hopefully you'll make a slight change in this world.

That's just an added perk though, surround yourself with people who share your values, and don't stain your thoughts obsessing over whores/retards, that's my policy now.
There's so much stuff I have/want to do & think about, worrying about such individuals is a complete waste of time, beyond knowing that they exist.
 
Like @We Are The Witches said, I doubt there's some grand conspiracy to sluttify the Western World. It's more a natural progression from sex being normalized to commodified to trivialized.
Sex used to be taboo. Then the push came to get rid of that stigma. In the transitory period, sex garnered tons of attention and brought with it diminishing controversy. Sexualization quickly became a "safe" means of advertising your product.
But now the attention's starting to fade. Sex is everywhere so nobody cares. People still flock to Onlyfans hoping for easy money only to fail miserably because it seems the public consciousness hasn't quite caught up with public perception if that makes any sense.
 
Looking past the furry avatar...

...Nope, I can't say anything wise.

There's an anthropological theory that we already went through something like this 2500 years ago, in an era called "The Axial Age", when new markets and the advent of sex trafficking melted down common concepts. Humans got (or made up, if you want to be uncharitable) new religions to set new standards for the various disjointed tribes, in some attempt to hold against degeneracy. It worked, but birth rates collapsed in the societies that got to the new religions last.

It isn't very clear, since world populations were so small back then, but population values and their moral values swing all over the place in history.
 
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he "cultural genes", the ideas, behaviour, traditions, etc that get passed on through generations and persist (or not), in a Darwinian environment.

So basically, the reigning memes of today's society that I see in general are obsession with sex, consumerism, irrationalism (specially in the field of politics), etc.
Like @We Are The Witches said, I doubt there's some grand conspiracy to sluttify the Western World. It's more a natural progression from sex being normalized to commodified to trivialized.
Sex used to be taboo. Then the push came to get rid of that stigma. In the transitory period, sex garnered tons of attention and brought with it diminishing controversy. Sexualization quickly became a "safe" means of advertising your product.
But now the attention's starting to fade. Sex is everywhere so nobody cares. People still flock to Onlyfans hoping for easy money only to fail miserably because it seems the public consciousness hasn't quite caught up with public perception if that makes any sense.

basically this, but also creeping isolationism, in which people willingly divide themselves into smaller and smaller groups, coupled with the online derangement crisis where everyone's relationship with objective reality erodes by the day and consensus reality is a meme. marriage has become seen more as a trap than a goal. people are more inclined on average to reject each other and separate rather than try to understand and accept each others' idiosyncrasies. so clinging to your internet hugbox of choice and depersonalizing sex becomes a natural choice. it's easy to ascribe intent and agenda to events in retrospect; the human mind naturally anthropomorphizes everything. perhaps that's partially true, but I suspect more that it's an almost totally organic result of environment and culture, which is both impossible to fully understand and unsatisfying for a number of reasons, not least of which is the difficulty of identifying any real solution in the absence of a bad guy you can blame.
 
Like @We Are The Witches said, I doubt there's some grand conspiracy to sluttify the Western World. It's more a natural progression from sex being normalized to commodified to trivialized.
There is a plot and it's not "natural". Satan and his followers (Modern politicians) hate women, their aim has been to mock, parody and destroy women and they have succeeded
Sex used to be taboo.
literally never in human history
 
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But I can guess very well what is the goal with women. Those-in-power do not want women to be Wives or Mothers, they want them all to be whores. The future they envision is one where women have no love in their hearts, and sell their bodies constantly.
Yes you’re right. The attack on men is to emasculate them so they don’t put heads of the people doing it on spikes. Women must be turned into whores for many reasons. Breaks families and families are the core of society. No cohesive society means easily controllable. But also access to children. Surrogacy allows children to be bought and sold. Troonism allows children to be removed from parents and given to the state. Working women means early daycare which means the state indoctrinates early. Both parents working means a slave class who are exhausted after work.
literally never in human history
No, but there have always been very strict taboos about how sex is done. Always. Who, when, etc. Very permissive ‘anything goes’ societies have always been the exception .
 
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No, but there have always been very strict taboos about how sex is done. Always. Who, when, etc. Very permissive ‘anything goes’ societies have always been the exception .
we must be looking at different history books. the "anything goes" societies have been the norm practically since the beginning of time.
 
we must be looking at different history books. the "anything goes" societies have been the norm practically since the beginning of time.
And also @One Winged Pear Farmer
Really? I doubt that. Can you give a few examples of major societies who had zero taboos over sex? I can’t think of any offhand. I am not talking about permissive attitudes, but almost all societies had and have specific rules and customs. Having a fertility festival isn’t no holds barred no rules at all. Most behaviours in most societies were controlled by specific rules and taboos. There is no society I can think of that has zero bars on sex becasue that would lead to rampant incest and rape, and that’s something that even most very primitive human groups have rules on.
Getting freaky at a fertility festival isn’t zero rules, the festival is the rules
 
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And also @One Winged Pear Farmer
Really? I doubt that. Can you give a few examples of major societies who had zero taboos over sex? I can’t think of any offhand. I am not talking about permissive attitudes, but almost all societies had and have specific rules and customs. Having a fertility festival isn’t no holds barred no rules at all. Most behaviours in most societies were controlled by specific rules and taboos. There is no society I can think of that has zero bars on sex becasue that would lead to rampant incest and rape, and that’s something that even most very primitive human groups have rules on.
Getting freaky at a fertility festival isn’t zero rules, the festival is the rules
the romans, the greeks, the egyptians, the catholics, the indians (subcontinent, not americas), muslim cultures, south american natives, 20th century america, 20th century europe
 
the romans, the greeks, the egyptians, the catholics, the indians (subcontinent, not americas), muslim cultures, south american natives, 20th century america, 20th century europe
All of them have taboos and rules. The romans were fineish with penetrating a man but the guy in the bottom was debased. A woman was restricted in what she could do sexually. Muslim cultures have strict rules over sex.
I’m not talking about rules unlike the west, or about having brothels etc mean ‘no rules whatsoever.’ Very few cultures have that becasue to do so would fragment them. Homosexuality wasn’t really a thing in the past as an identity, but homosexual acts were, etc. it’s all still rules, it’s not a free for all. .
 
All of them have taboos and rules. The romans were fineish with penetrating a man but the guy in the bottom was debased. A woman was restricted in what she could do sexually. Muslim cultures have strict rules over sex.
I’m not talking about rules unlike the west, or about having brothels etc mean ‘no rules whatsoever.’ Very few cultures have that becasue to do so would fragment them. Homosexuality wasn’t really a thing in the past as an identity, but homosexual acts were, etc. it’s all still rules, it’s not a free for all. .
no, it was free for all, most of these cultures did (or still do) fuck anything with a pulse
 
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no, it was free for all, most of these cultures did (or still do) fuck anything with a pulse
no it wasn’t. A Roman wife couldn’t just go and shag whomever she wanted with no repercussions. She was held to specific standards. It was seen as a big slur against a man’s virtue to be the receptive partner in a homosexual act.
The propaganda that denounced a Roman they wanted to bring down, for example would always include allegations of sexual impropriety. The Lex Scantinia was used to peruse political opponents as one example of this. It was never a free for all. The rules differed dramatically from what we have now but there were still rules.
 
no it wasn’t. A Roman wife couldn’t just go and shag whomever she wanted with no repercussions. She was held to specific standards. It was seen as a big slur against a man’s virtue to be the receptive partner in a homosexual act.
The propaganda that denounced a Roman they wanted to bring down, for example would always include allegations of sexual impropriety. The Lex Scantinia was used to peruse political opponents as one example of this. It was never a free for all. The rules differed dramatically from what we have now but there were still rules.
I feel like these people have seen far too many HBO shows that depict the past as a never-ending orgy with tits and ass everywhere and sex right in the open. Sure, there are rampant animal fuckers and such in every society, but they have always been in secret, as every society has generally punished them in some way or another as it is rightly seen as degenerate. If any did exist, they were probably generally destroyed fast, or destroyed themselves.
 
no it wasn’t. A Roman wife couldn’t just go and shag whomever she wanted with no repercussions. She was held to specific standards. It was seen as a big slur against a man’s virtue to be the receptive partner in a homosexual act.
The propaganda that denounced a Roman they wanted to bring down, for example would always include allegations of sexual impropriety. The Lex Scantinia was used to peruse political opponents as one example of this. It was never a free for all. The rules differed dramatically from what we have now but there were still rules.
nah. they were pagans, ritualist sex was part of their religion
 
I feel like these people have seen far too many HBO shows that depict the past as a never-ending orgy with tits and ass everywhere and sex right in the open. Sure, there are rampant animal fuckers and such in every society, but they have always been in secret, as every society has generally punished them in some way or another as it is rightly seen as degenerate. If any did exist, they were probably generally destroyed fast, or destroyed themselves.
its got nothing to do with HBO, these peoples write about it, their art depicts it, their own histories record it etc
 
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ritualist sex was part of their religion
Emphasis on the ritualism. Ancient cultures that had brothels typically hosted them in the temple.
There were rules on who and how you get to fuck. This notion that sex was just an every day part of life is retarded. There was graffiti on the walls of Pompeii accusing a politician of sucking dicks.
 
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