UN Charles Manson has died at the age of 83

Charles Manson hospitalized, source says “it’s just a matter of time”
POSTED 5:42 PM, NOVEMBER 15, 2017, BY KATIE DELONG, UPDATED AT 05:43PM, NOVEMBER 15, 2017


Charles Manson (PHOTO: TMZ)

BAKERSFIELD, California — Charles Manson is in the hospital, TMZ is reporting, and a source familiar with his situation told TMZ, “it’s not going to get any better for him.”

TMZ was told Manson was rushed to a Bakersfield hospital Sunday, November 12th, and has been wheeled around on a gurney for various treatments — escorted by five uniformed officers.

According to TMZ, the 83-year-old Manson, who lays still covered in blankets, looks ashen.

Sources told TMZ Manson’s health has been steadily deteriorating and, as it was put to TMZ, “it’s just a matter of time.”

Manson had serious health issues back in January as well, when he was hospitalized for severe intestinal bleeding and needed surgery to repair a lesion, but he was deemed too weak by doctors and sent back to prison.

http://fox6now.com/2017/11/15/tmz-charles-manson-hospitalized-source-says-its-just-a-matter-of-time/

 

[Curt Sibling]

Manson definitely had some diabolical charisma that makes infamous leaders in history. He was just born in the wrong place/era.
I deplore his disgusting influence and crimes, but sadly - He has carved the Manson mystique into folklore for all time...

 

[escapegoat]

Neil Young knew Manson and said he was a very competent singer and songwriter, "if he could've gotten a backing band like Bob Dylan had, he would've been as big as Dylan was. But there was something about Manson you knew was going to keep him from getting that backing band."

I can see Bob Dylan ending up a cult leader to hippie murderers, though. He's definitely an egotistic asshole.

In some alternate universe, Manson is the voice of his generation, and Dylan terrorizes New York.

 

[XYZpdq]

I can see Bob Dylan ending up a cult leader to hippie murderers, though. He's definitely an egotistic asshole.

In some alternate universe, Manson is the voice of his generation, and Dylan terrorizes New York.

Manson probably could have made "going electric" a lot more interesting.

 

[FemalePresident]

Hippies were a mistake

 

[14⚡⚡ weev ⚡⚡88]

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On a more serious note, Charles Manson intrigued me especially on account of his connection to Nick "A. Wyatt Mann" Bougas and James Nolan Mason, the latter of who called Charlie the greatest man next to Hitler. For someone as loony as Mr. Manson, he influenced two seemingly sane blokes.

Thanks, I was just about to record my Manson podcast episode and mentioned this in the opening

 

[Koby_Fish]

Manson definitely had some diabolical charisma that makes infamous leaders in history. He was just born in the wrong place/era.
I deplore his disgusting influence and crimes, but sadly - He has carved the Manson mystique into folklore for all time...

Well, considering LSD comes from rye smut, wherever rye cultivation and spoiled moldy rye grains could have popped up, if Manson had been born in those medieval or so times and knew what rye smut did, then maybe. Other than that, it's doubtful, as having a horde of crazy autistic drug-addled hippies at your beck and call isn't much of an accomplishment--sober people would never have bought into his shit, and without LSD, who knows how his thinking processes would have worked out like, or whether he would have even had his own shit to buy into in the first place.

The only real mystique here is how did LSD fuck up people so badly, when Timothy Leary managed to keep it together enough to not go on a crime spree bender? Is there something the acid lobby isn't telling us?

 

[AnOminous]

The only real mystique here is how did LSD fuck up people so badly, when Timothy Leary managed to keep it together enough to not go on a crime spree bender? Is there something the acid lobby isn't telling us?

It didn't. As drugs go, it's one of the better ones.

Amphetamines and barbiturates probably had a lot more to do with it.

Anything given to someone naive along with an asshole willing to frame a psychedelic experience in some way that manipulates them can potentially control their behavior, though. A lot of abusers, like pimps (and Manson had also pimped), use drugs to disorient and overpower the will of their victims. In this case, Manson turned them into followers.

LSD itself isn't to blame, though.

 

[14⚡⚡ weev ⚡⚡88]

Well, considering LSD comes from rye smut, wherever rye cultivation and spoiled moldy rye grains could have popped up, if Manson had been born in those medieval or so times and knew what rye smut did, then maybe. Other than that, it's doubtful, as having a horde of crazy autistic drug-addled hippies at your beck and call isn't much of an accomplishment--sober people would never have bought into his shit, and without LSD, who knows how his thinking processes would have worked out like.

As the only person you know that has intentionally grown ergot mold on rye and sampled it to get fucked up, I can assure you that it probably wouldn't have worked in the modern era. It worked for Christ with his little pieces of moldy rye bread, of course, but that was in an era that people had no idea this drug or anything like it existed at all so it would have been much more easily sold as a legitimate mystical experience. Ergot intoxication is far less pleasant than LSD and comes at much body load (and risk of gangrenous limb loss/death).

The only real mystique here is how did LSD fuck up people so badly, when Timothy Leary managed to keep it together enough to not go on a crime spree bender?

Dude saw the interior of 36 different prisons. Sort of a bad question.

He did do the most awesome prison break of all time though, in my opinion. Before he became a notorious thought criminal, he was the darling of the psychology industry and the Berkeley establishment. He used his connections to get his friends to lobby the US government and get him to have major authority over prisoner assignment. He thus got to personally create a series of personality tests that determined which prison tier a prisoner got assigned and his job there. When arrested by the feds, he had this spring in his step that was legendary.

When the BOP checked him in they sat him down at his own fucking test that he personally designed. He checked all the right boxes and got assigned as a gardener at a minimum security prison, laughed, and walked off the lawn. Then he left to Algeria. That, in my judgement, was the single most awesome prison break of all time.