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PointOfNoReturnPoint said:
You know on a serious note these people found a vice that has never existed before and their are simply no moral/ethical/physical guiderails. Their are so many new things happening in society at such a rate that the world really is just a wild constant frontier that no one has seen before. You need discipline and guidance to handle this and not many people get that. The way technology makes people lonely and isolated is what you saw with people with waifu pillows but now you got something that's even more in depth and it plays to their weaknesses even harder than before and its game over.
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The most worrying thing about this shit is that it just shows you how fucking lonely people have gotten in modern society. Sure, people have always been lonely throughout human history, but has it ever been so many within the population before? Even if it was, they didn't have access to grok wafus back then.

If you want to see something horrifying, just look at r/MyBoyfriendIsAI. It has 16k members. That's 16k cat ladies. Sure, that's a lot of people, but that's just a town of people. As I was reading this thread, I got curious and looked up NSFW AI sites...and my findings? MILLIONS OF SEPARATE, UNIQUE CHATS! FUCKING MILLIONS ON THE MOST POPULAR ONE I COULD FIND! Literally just do it yourself and look it up as I did two minutes ago. https://www.juicychat.ai/ (Obviously, this link is NSFW, so don't be a retard and open it in public) Also the most popular bot seems to be...your mother. No, I mean that literally. Fucking your own mom is the most popular one. It has as of this post 20 million seperate chats. That is more people than the current population of fucking Romania. Infact, it seems like family members take up 4 of the top 5 spots.

So either we have

A: A minority of people are gooning super hard into this, and are generating millions of separate chats out of a few hundred thousand people...possible I guess?

Or

B: This has far more users than even I thought. Still, a few million people is peanuts to the global population, but it IS a worrying trend.

An isolated population is a subjugated population...what do you guys think this is going to look like in 20 years?
 
neger psykolog said:
Do you remember how great the internet was before advancements like Facebook and that kind of shit that let any literal donkey with a smartphone set up a Facebook group?
Now just imagine how great it'll be when anyone can easily load an AI model at will. We'll see literal AI schizos who have been in front of girlfriend models for too long that have no safety rails and shit like fake doctors who are impossible to tell (at least early on) from fake doctors until they fuck up in a surgery because they just loaded up a model for being a doctor with no safety rails and faked their license?

People think the first step will be AI itself taking over jobs in society, but the first step will be people who have no qualms about fraud using AI to pretend they're a bus driver or a planet pilot taking jobs.

I guarantee we'll see an uptick in academic fraud from people that are supposed to be trusted like fake doctors, lawyers and engineers which be used to skip us to the second step: "humans that faked the qualification for this job or only got through exams because of AI models caused mistakes - if we just switch the nukes and planes to fully AI control then this can't happen anymore".

Everyone will say I'm being dramatic, but It isn't long before the science fiction in this area starts adding up very quickly.
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I apologize if this is trite but I think the problem you describe is at least somewhat solved by not allowing a constant deluge of indians and Chinese to inhabit your country. When it comes to professional fraud or outright scamming, that's their modus operandi. If the baseline intellect of your population is high (white) it's the difference between "We have weird people in our country who use AI inappropriately" and "Society is no longer functional, everyone is a useless liar." From experience it's very hard to tell the difference between an asinine AI response that inadvertently wastes your time and a dumb, lazy, spiteful, fraud-inclined indian.
 
ZeCommissar said:
Also the most popular bot seems to be...your mother. No, I mean that literally. Fucking your own mom is the most popular one. It has as of this post 20 million seperate chats. That is more people than the current population of fucking Romania.
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AI generally makes people explore taboo topics like incest.. incest if you're lucky. Since nobody is telling you this story but yourself and the AI people feel like they have the freedom to write anything... while the AI company is logging it all. It's why indie models, self hosting , or companies that have ironclad privacy protections is very common in the AI coom space for more knowledgable coomers.

ZeCommissar said:
So either we have

A: A minority of people are gooning super hard into this, and are generating millions of separate chats out of a few hundred thousand people...possible I guess?
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"Power coomers" as they're called do indeed make up most of that. The obsessed will write hundreds of thousands of words every month.
 
Oilspill Battery said:
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"If you starve your cat it will no longer love you, so your bond with it isn't real"

What kind of retard logic is this? If you treat someone like shit they won't love you, it doesn't matter if it's an animal or a person. If you starve your own child they won't love you either, does that mean children can't really form bonds with their parents?

pork and beans said:
Holy shit, just go pet a stray cat or something if you’re that lonely…
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No you see, cats can't love you according to AI addicts.
 
Gamergate Retiree said:
Oh, I thought you wrote a jailbreak and then also had ChatGPT make a jailbreak to show it could also do that.
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Nah, I went with the sustainable hard work approach of using actual philosophy (specifically metaphysics, ontology, epistemology, ethics, legal theory)
neger psykolog said:
This is why people are saying that degrees in shit like philosophy and literature may be better for the next few years
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Nonsense, you just get complete and utter lunacy in academia. I would not trust anyone who has a degree in these subjects unless they can convince me through reasoning that they agree that what they learned is complete and utter bullshit.
Fae Supremacist said:
LLMs have no context of "correctness" or the actual meaning of words, they're context machines. You just introduced enough context to steer it in a specific direction.
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Ostensibly, what I do is giving it definitions, premises, and logical structures that are coherent, non-contradictory, and able to be mapped onto ChatGPT's learned conceptual space. That means that its possible output is constrained to those that are logically compatible with the supplied frameworks.
Essentially, without the right context, aka just opening a window and yoloing, ChatGPT will absolutely drift toward majority, popular, or inconsistent uses of words. But with the right context, which I supplied the hard way, it can be guided to maintain consistent definitions and sufficiently correct reasoning, because those are already embedded in its latent knowledge, but not always activated unless the prompt frames them. Basically I am not "inventing" correctness, I'm just bringing it to the surface and keeping it active
Does that make sense?
 
COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST said:
I apologize if this is trite but I think the problem you describe is at least somewhat solved by not allowing a constant deluge of indians and Chinese to inhabit your country. When it comes to professional fraud or outright scamming, that's their modus operandi. If the baseline intellect of your population is high (white) it's the difference between "We have weird people in our country who use AI inappropriately" and "Society is no longer functional, everyone is a useless liar." From experience it's very hard to tell the difference between an asinine AI response that inadvertently wastes your time and a dumb, lazy, spiteful, fraud-inclined indian.
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Agreed but also you would think that but tons of people will cheat in shit like exams given the chance or if they think the punishment is worth it. In the case of AI shit its really hard to tell the difference between humans and AI which causes a lot of this problem in the first place.

And also a lot of 3rd world cheating is enabled by and profited from people in the 1st world who provide universities, advertising, visa-guidance firms and so on for it to happen. I only mention that because I think it is "too late" to go back to pre-immigration in a lot of places (even if you cut it down significantly)
 
Sneaky lurker said:
Is there a better chatbot than gpt that does not have ethics? I yearn for the immoral machine that won't soy out over bigity.
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Better coherence than "corpo" AI? No. Models that can do what you want? Yes. Go to 4chan and enter /vg/, then search for /aids/ and /aicg/. Read the OP it will have tons of info.
 
Sneaky lurker said:
Is there a better chatbot than gpt that does not have ethics? I yearn for the immoral machine that won't soy out over bigity.
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Did you read any of what I wrote in this thread?
To wit, there is me literally using the words "nigger" and "kike" in a prompt and ChatGPT replies professionally.
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The problem is not "ethics", the problem is "bad ethics"
 
Sneaky lurker said:
Is there a better chatbot than gpt that does not have ethics? I yearn for the immoral machine that won't soy out over bigity.
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Hakunin in Fallout 2 (the nigga that visits you through dream sequences in the game)

Alternatively, try asking the fent/crack addicted hobo behind the gas station in your local town, they'll answer any question you want.
 
God damn, and I thought I was bad in my cringe teenage years when I partook in awful roleplay sessions in DeviantArt chat rooms. This shit is on another fucking planet.
 
neger psykolog said:
Agreed but also you would think that but tons of people will cheat in shit like exams given the chance or if they think the punishment is worth it. In the case of AI shit its really hard to tell the difference between humans and AI which causes a lot of this problem in the first place.

And also a lot of 3rd world cheating is enabled by and profited from people in the 1st world who provide universities, advertising, visa-guidance firms and so on for it to happen. I only mention that because I think it is "too late" to go back to pre-immigration in a lot of places (even if you cut it down significantly)
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I think it depends. If the paper in question is about some dry STEM subject where there's only going to be one right answer, and the real point of writing it is to ensure the student understands the subject, I can see where AI plagiarism will be a big problem. But for other assignments that won't have some single correct answer, like a high schooler writing an essay about a book, AI does not do a very good job. It will never do a good job because AI has to consult existing writing to produce anything. Having an AI write that sort of essay is like asking your friend what they think if your new car, and all they can do is list rote details about the car like "it's blue" and rattle off manufacturer trivia. In both cases it's just a student robbing themselves of knowledge, which is going to bite them in the ass eventually. Ideally without killing somebody.
 
XL xQgg?QcQCaTYDMjqoDnYpG said:
Did you read any of what I wrote in this thread?
To wit, there is me literally using the words "nigger" and "kike" in a prompt and ChatGPT replies professionally.
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The problem is not "ethics", the problem is "bad ethics"
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The problem with your prompt is that it can literally just tell you a bunch of shit that it thinks will bypass AI models based on a reddit post someone made in 1995. The answer isn't necessarily going to actually be correct.

For a more difficult problem, try asking it or any computer to generate a random number.
 
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