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I mean, AI isn't even in its infancy, it's in its newborn state. Nobody is going to slave an AI to ATC for another couple decades until it actually is foolproof. The reason people are putting out products that produce garbage- "ai slop"- is because they have to see what works and what doesn't. They need a larger sample size than their own companies, the need the entire world of data. It's R&D on a planetwide scale.
Complete and utter nonsense
Truth to be told, I probably need to put on my inner "it's not worth engaging this, let people be wrong about this, don't waste your time" whenever someone makes claims about artificial intelligence
I've already made my points super clear in this thread some months ago regarding the impossibility of GAI
 
Complete and utter nonsense
Truth to be told, I probably need to put on my inner "it's not worth engaging this, let people be wrong about this, don't waste your time" whenever someone makes claims about artificial intelligence
I've already made my points super clear in this thread some months ago regarding the impossibility of GAI
Pretrained MLPs and by extension transformers are a saturated technology as far as development. It's kind of funny that AI development itself has hit a local minimum where all progress now is blood from a stone
 
I understand its possible to gain feelings for objects and tools. Its made trickier nowadays when those objects and tools can 'pretend' to like you. But at some point, people need to understand that they're just appliances. Not people. Not sentient and the Railroad in Fallout 4 is fucking retarded and the Institute was right.

Why don't these guys just use dedicated chatbots? There are dozens of sites that will let you create your perfect uwu chatbot that will be your best friend and goon partner, all for free. Why use ChatGPT of all things lmao. At least its entertaining to see them meltdown
Laziness. Redditors are so driven by their peers (which is by design) that independent thought and/or action is rare.
Is this the filter, then? Those who can cope and not go insane, those who can find partners and breed, they get to go onto round two?
I was saying today elsewhere here that social media breeds cluster B tendencies (no IRL feedback to check bad behaviour, a billion people on Reddit cheering you on, and dopamine / attention as a currency.) its increasing the number of cluster B tendencies in us. Shredding our attention spans.
There are multiple competing selection pressures. Maybe those who can just turn the fucking thing off, laugh about it and go outdoors inherit the earth.
We genuinely need a B ark. Maybe we can just set out goon caves with man sized glue traps?
The tricky part then is how do you make sure your offspring won't get caught in the mindtrap that is social media and AI chatbots? Of course there are people with in-born traits that make that process easy much like how its possible to breed in addiction history but at some point, people need to organize and come up with solutions to not fall in the our current gacha-fied reality where the corpos are pulling hard to make you into one of their dearest paypigs. (For their convenience to slaughter later of course)
 
There are too many ChatGPT defenders in here. "I just use it for--" as if you're not complicit. I'm seeing a lot of use cases here where an artist, a professional, or a dedicated team of developers can solve at a fraction of the energy output and ethical minefield that is ChatGPT. It's too easy to weaponize this technology to literally turn us sacks of meat into real world AI agents. Log the fuck off the app.
 
When discussing LLMs, even the most ardent detractor will still use qualifiers like "Don't get me wrong, AI is an incredibly powerful tool," but is it really? I've never been impressed by their output. It seems to me that, by design, these LLMs produce output at the top of the bell curve without exception. They take a large amount of data and give you the most average possible response, possibly laden with errors. Given that the majority of input it receives is from the average person and its output is the average of the average, it seems to be a mediocrity generator.
Who is actually impressed by this shit?
It reminds me of the dot com bubble (or the webcomics bubble, for nerds). BRO YOU NEED TO GET ON THIS BANDWAGON, IN FIVE YEARS EVERYTHING WILL BE AI, EVEN YOUR MILK! All the boardroom guys going all-on on it, because some young dude with glasses and a beard told them it was the future (young people are so good with these dang computers!) Eventually a day of reckoning when large numbers of investors clue in to the fact that your gee-whiz computer nerdery has limited actual applications beyond party tricks, and then a financial bloodbath that leaves some techbros living in cardboard houses under the overpass.
 
Pretrained MLPs and by extension transformers are a saturated technology as far as development. It's kind of funny that AI development itself has hit a local minimum where all progress now is blood from a stone
That's also a nonsensical claim, considering just how incredibly many non-G AIs are out there, in all kinds of complexities and use cases.
 
That's why, if i had children now, i'd be preparing them to just learn a trade, to go into nursing, medicine, something that's really impossible to delegate to a robot - or unlikely, probably because of ethical constraints or whatever. I see so many zoomers now getting a degree in basic IT shit or trying to get a comfy office job, those are gonna go extinct when a recession hits.
I have a friend that was working on game development as an artist and he started to sorta spearhead the whole process, finances and everything he was the guy managing it, one of the founders was also it's coders and he left because he's schizo or something and this friend of mine, who was only an artist, was basically reworking a lot of the code using his basic knowledge of programming with a lot of help from AI, he wasn't even a programmer.
When AI matures enough humans will be there only to oversee it, then you go from a team with 100 people to a team of 10 or 5 (HIGHLY educated) people just giving it a thumbs up.

Go into construction, become an electrician, a nurse, a medical doctor, something. The boomers had so many opportunities that they decided: "fuck you, maaaaan!!! take your job and shove it!".
But we, late milenials/early zoomers, are fucked and we have about 10 years to get our shit together and find a profession and get a carreer going, competition now is FIERCE and it's only going to get worse.
the lefties cope about AI bringing forth UGI/UBI because there just wont be enough jobs to go around when AI takes all of them, and government won't just let joblessness/homelessness skyrocket. is there any truth to that at all?
 
Complete and utter nonsense
Truth to be told, I probably need to put on my inner "it's not worth engaging this, let people be wrong about this, don't waste your time" whenever someone makes claims about artificial intelligence
I've already made my points super clear in this thread some months ago regarding the impossibility of GAI
GAI doesn't matter in this khantext because 99% of the time ChatGPT or whatever is "good enough" and shit all over the food chain can be impacted long before GAI does: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/chatgpt.144004/post-22238650

edit: and you hardly need "superintelligence" to replace ATC lol. And even if you replaced ATC with a computer program, pilots still fly the actual planes.
 
edit: and you hardly need "superintelligence" to replace ATC lol. And even if you replaced ATC with a computer program, pilots still fly the actual planes.
I mean, pilots only really fly the planes during takeoff and landing, the rest has been autopilot for decades. They're still there to respond to emergencies, but still.
 
Humorously enough, I've been enjoying Chatgpt more since they released the "remove soy" patch.

There are too many ChatGPT defenders in here. "I just use it for--" as if you're not complicit. I'm seeing a lot of use cases here where an artist, a professional, or a dedicated team of developers can solve at a fraction of the energy output and ethical minefield that is ChatGPT. It's too easy to weaponize this technology to literally turn us sacks of meat into real world AI agents. Log the fuck off the app.

You don't have to like it, but denying it's an absolute game changer makes you look like a retard.
 
GAI doesn't matter in this khantext because 99% of the time ChatGPT or whatever is "good enough"
Agree, but that doesn't change the fact that many people make substantially false claims about AI
And unfortunately we live in democracies, meaning that the opinion of other people matters, because the popular vote exists
Accordingly, I am incentivized to care about what other people think
 
Just flexing my luddite muscles to say I haven't interacted with AI since the very first image generators in 2021 that could only make shit smeared JPG artifact abstractions of your prompt. Although I do wonder if I can make Varg sightseeing in Tel Aviv a reality now.
 
There are too many ChatGPT defenders in here. "I just use it for--" as if you're not complicit. I'm seeing a lot of use cases here where an artist, a professional, or a dedicated team of developers can solve at a fraction of the energy output and ethical minefield that is ChatGPT. It's too easy to weaponize this technology to literally turn us sacks of meat into real world AI agents. Log the fuck off the app.
I like to use things when they are useful. Simple as. I do not care about copyright infringement or fearmongering environmental impacts.
 
the lefties cope about AI bringing forth UGI because there just wont be enough jobs to go around when AI takes all of them, and government won't just let joblessness/homelessness skyrocket. is there any truth to that at all?
Universal Basic Income? I do think governments across the globe won't like the idea of entire economies collapsing because people can't find jobs, since even shitty jobs like being a cashier is now fully-automated. For these things to work, from my point of view - i'm not an expect, to be clear -, people need to be able to make money and to spend it, if they don't have money to spend then the economy is in the shitter.

Do i think the government will give people money for free? I don't, i think that breaks the illusion. People need to believe that the economy is something subjective, not some abstraction that we all belive in. Modern economy is completely fake, but the illusion needs to be believable, so i think they will just give max tax incentives for companies to keep hiring humans, they'll pass legislation to limit the use of AI in some capacities, and we, as a society, will stop trying to compete with AI in the fields it excels at.
Learning a trade doesn't require you to get formal education (in most cases), but they are just as hard when it comes to get your foot in the door. You need to start from the bottom and you need to find someone you can learn from, so it's even harder than going to university where most professors are just satisfied with their bullshit jobs (not all of them have bs jobs, but most research is bullshit).
Also, if a normal person saves 20 ~ 30% of their salary, you probably have to save about 50% of yours, since you won't be making any money if you get sick and can't work.

My expectation is: a lot of legislation to restrict the use of AI, tax incentives to hire real humans instead of using AI, A LOT of welfare checks for people with lower IQs.
 
Another thing I see at work is people unable to identify AI work. A lot of our training decks are narrated by it and I HATE it. It’s like nails on a chalkboard, the way it makes odd intonations or pauses and how it parses the material. And yet when I’ve said this I get blank looks. So when I hear people saying they’re surprised that anyone would want to chat to it when it has a voice, again, they can’t tell.
I’ve always said that people’s response to AI is more interesting than the Ai. This is people unable to reality test with text and a robo voice (and they are all robots voices, none sound real when reading extended texts) so imagine how it’ll be when they are in actual bodies or objects. Anad again, you’d maybe recoil in horror at the idea that people would think it’s real or treat it as real but they can’t tell.
What does this say about some people? They’re operating at a level that they might not actually pass a Turing test. I wonder sometimes about this whole no inner monologue meme, and why that gained so much traction recently.might that be a majority?
Spec ops: The Line. Forget that it's heart of darkness in third person shooter form - i mean the actual point it's trying to make. What is the line that you arbitrarily draw in the sand to differentiate the version of reality you have in your head that's propelling your world view, and the actual reality you see in front of you? How far can you push that line? Will you even realize you pushed it?

You aren't always looking at people incapable of seeing the emperor has no clothes, you're looking at people too scared to admit it. they aren't afraid of the emperor, they're afraid of realizing they've already crossed the line.
 
That's why, if i had children now, i'd be preparing them to just learn a trade, to go into nursing, medicine, something that's really impossible to delegate to a robot - or unlikely, probably because of ethical constraints or whatever. I see so many zoomers now getting a degree in basic IT shit or trying to get a comfy office job, those are gonna go extinct when a recession hits.
I have a friend that was working on game development as an artist and he started to sorta spearhead the whole process, finances and everything he was the guy managing it, one of the founders was also it's coders and he left because he's schizo or something and this friend of mine, who was only an artist, was basically reworking a lot of the code using his basic knowledge of programming with a lot of help from AI, he wasn't even a programmer.
When AI matures enough humans will be there only to oversee it, then you go from a team with 100 people to a team of 10 or 5 (HIGHLY educated) people just giving it a thumbs up.

Go into construction, become an electrician, a nurse, a medical doctor, something. The boomers had so many opportunities that they decided: "fuck you, maaaaan!!! take your job and shove it!".
But we, late milenials/early zoomers, are fucked and we have about 10 years to get our shit together and find a profession and get a carreer going, competition now is FIERCE and it's only going to get worse.

the lefties cope about AI bringing forth UGI/UBI because there just wont be enough jobs to go around when AI takes all of them, and government won't just let joblessness/homelessness skyrocket. is there any truth to that at all?

Its probably the least desirable solution, as right now even though the government hates you, you are still an economic unit, when that goes you'll just be their dog. I don't think it would be economically viable, if we have enough AI to consistently remove enough jobs that UBI is possible, that same AI will be trying to remove as many of us as possible to maximise the time it has to complete its tasks.

Universal Basic Income? I do think governments across the globe won't like the idea of entire economies collapsing because people can't find jobs, since even shitty jobs like being a cashier is now fully-automated. For these things to work, from my point of view - i'm not an expect, to be clear -, people need to be able to make money and to spend it, if they don't have money to spend then the economy is in the shitter.

My expectation is: a lot of legislation to restrict the use of AI, tax incentives to hire real humans instead of using AI, A LOT of welfare checks for people with lower IQs.

For UBI to be viable, AI must be capable of ~90% of jobs, as people will just quit shit work and focus on what they like. I don't think the increased pay for those left in the workforce would be enough to keep the world turning as production would become super cheap so there would be an insane price drop, the only way to make working worthwhile in that scenario would either require something that is still scarce which AI cannot help with (like land, though if we are at that point of 'viable UBI', AI would probably have colonised a bunch of other planets so land is no longer scarce), or artificial scarcity.
 
It reminds me of the dot com bubble (or the webcomics bubble, for nerds). BRO YOU NEED TO GET ON THIS BANDWAGON, IN FIVE YEARS EVERYTHING WILL BE AI, EVEN YOUR MILK!
Markets had preceded Internet becoming the de facto way to conduct business by about a decade. Things take time to adopt, develop around customers' needs, and most importantly turn a profit, but they weren't wrong, the Internet took over. Everyone ""owning"" a ""personal"" device and instant access to information let this one transformer-attention mechanism led breakthrough explode faster than any before it. We haven't seen the beginning of it yet, even if valuations are hyped on overblown promises and untenable costs, and even if models being to plateau in "raw" correctness.
 
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