CHAZ/CHOP: Autonomous No Cop Zone and Commune Declared In Seattle - Render unto Warlord Raz what is owed to Warlord Raz

"Cowards hide behind guns"
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I've heard some stupid gun arguments before, but that thread had a new one for me.

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President Obama drone striked an American citizen, and directed his federal agents to force out and kill Americans who had taken over Federal Property.

I don't support Obama idealogically, but I can recognize that he did have the guts to make the hard choice that less powerful citizens chose to rest in his hands - Choosing to defend them by demonstrating the state will stand up to any challenge to its authority... even when the practical realization of that danger seemed far off and distant.

This faggot pussy President is too much of a coward to lift a finger when a major city begins to be taken over! He should be ashamed, for being a coward. Mad or not, this is how I feel. Like President Trump abandoned the country. I guess he was a Gorbachev all along.
He should have followed through on using the Insurrection Act. I don't get why he didn't do it either.
 
The only thing residents of a gayborhood struggle with is shoving inreasingly bigger things up their asses
Capitol Hill isn't gay anymore. It stopped being gay after all of the gays who owned land sold everything to make a huge profit off of the Amazon land price increase (~2014). Prior to that, only gay owned businesses had a pride flag on them. After that, EVERY business had a pride flag on them. Then post 2016, having just a pride flag was bigoted, so now they all have trans flags. It's not gay anymore.
 
Exactly. The Ethiopian neighborhood east of SU and the International District, which are way poorer, were much more enjoyable to be in a lot of the time. Not only was the food phenomenal and cheap, but you were actually dealing with people living the American dream. Cap Hill morons wouldn't know what struggle actually looks like if it slapped them in the face.
Kinda off topic
Kinda old but this was in 1998 in France in the Bretagne region. I was there for 2 weeks in an exchange program. The family was between poor and somewhat stable. The father of my exchange partner was an upcoming winegrower. We helped him 3-4 days a week. Was hard work as a young teen. But the life there... The people, the food, it was fucking great. They did not have much, but what they had was splendid.

French girls were also very enjoyable and more...
 
I lived in the city both before and after the 2016 election. What's funny is in the actual black and brown parts of town, you very rarely see political propaganda. Other than political campaign signs on people's lawns and store windows, I remember one poster for a "Fight for 15" march, and that was it.

To be fair the black part of town is an illiterate cancer that is losing the fight to the irritating nightmare of gentification.

For instance, Chinatown which saw a lot of blacks move into the past decade or so was turning into a new ghetto until the Cap Hill new apartment creep started edging up to Chinatown relitively recently so now it's got this South African vibe going on where you got these glorious, expensive ass apartments overlooking a dumpy chinatown.
 
Literally across the street on the eastern end of CHAZ, on 13th and Pine, is the fire station. And then just a couple of blocks southwest, on Broadway and Spring, is the start of Pill Hill where there are literally blocks of hospitals. Part of me feels like they're acting self-important thinking their tiny zone will impact anything. But then part of me feels like they're also so incompetent they'll fuck something up anyways.
 
Black Doctors:
Most people don't seem to be aware of the demographic makeup of their cities, considering all these people seem to think black people make up a much larger percentage of the population than they do.

But I have a suspicion the thing about black doctors is in part because Grey's Anatomy is set in Seattle and has a much closer to 50/50 split between white and black doctors, and they think that's representative of the racial makeup of medical practitioners in the city.

Because, as can't be stated often enough, they're dumb.
 
He should have followed through on using the Insurrection Act. I don't get why he didn't do it either.

The left was baiting him into sending in troops, because they know the populace would hate that. Trump was right for holding off and letting things get non-violent. The only place he had clear authority to deploy troops was in DC itself, so he gassed his way to St John's church for that dumb photo op, making the point that he was willing to do so. The protesters started policing their crowds immediately, and were generally non-violent in a matter of 48 hours.

For Seattle, he should do exactly what he's doing: call out the state and local governments for being weak, remind everyone there's an army, and let it fizzle out on its own. We joke about Warlord Raz and the upcoming starving times, but everyone knows this will collapse. Let it happen without violence. Show them the futility of their best efforts, without giving the excuse of "things were going great until Trump invaded".

There's no "win" for Trump in sending in troops, except for the lulz you and I would get from it, which is a win for us but nobody else.

(Incidentally, that general who said "I never should have been involved with the photo op" was correct. His appearance changes the message. The right is incredibly wary of federal power, for good reason, and while they want LAW AND ORDER they don't want to see federal troops take over cities any more than the left does.)
 
One thing that interests me is that they don't even have an well functioning replacement for the police, basic security, or social services yet. What are they even gonna do if someone or some people start to do things that are "wrong" and "illegal" to them? What happens if someone is wounded beyond the point of being able to be treated with a first aid kit? Do they just die?
 
The left was baiting him into sending in troops, because they know the populace would hate that. Trump was right for holding off and letting things get non-violent. The only place he had clear authority to deploy troops was in DC itself, so he gassed his way to St John's church for that dumb photo op, making the point that he was willing to do so. The protesters started policing their crowds immediately, and were generally non-violent in a matter of 48 hours.

For Seattle, he should do exactly what he's doing: call out the state and local governments for being weak, remind everyone there's an army, and let it fizzle out on its own. We joke about Warlord Raz and the upcoming starving times, but everyone knows this will collapse. Let it happen without violence. Show them the futility of their best efforts, without giving the excuse of "things were going great until Trump invaded".

There's no "win" for Trump in sending in troops, except for the lulz you and I would get from it, which is a win for us but nobody else.
Fair enough. Good point.
 
Most people don't seem to be aware of the demographic makeup of their cities, considering all these people seem to think black people make up a much larger percentage of the population than they do.

But I have a suspicion the thing about black doctors is in part because Grey's Anatomy is set in Seattle and has a much closer to 50/50 split between white and black doctors, and they think that's representative of the racial makeup of medical practitioners in the city.

Because, as can't be stated often enough, they're dumb.
I moved out to Seattle from Milwaukee. Literally everyone there acted like I was a hick and would actually say I had never met a black person. I'd then have to inform them that Milwaukee is 40+% black while Seattle was 7%. Minneapolis also has less than 20% black population. So why did Milwaukee have 1,000x less rioting and looting despite these cities being of fairly equal size? Because Milwaukee is tons more apolitical than either city so there's no LARPing AntiFa to channel nigger rage into something more destructive than burning the ghetto.
 
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The left was baiting him into sending in troops, because they know the populace would hate that. [...]

There's no "win" for Trump in sending in troops, except for the lulz you and I would get from it, which is a win for us but nobody else.

I feel like every mayor of every dem city where there was a riot was letting shit get out of hand because they also wanted trump to send in the army, that way they could avoid hard decisions that could potentially hurt their image and reelection chances.

I wonder how hard they started shitting themselves when they realized Trump wouldn't take the bait, and they would have to be the ones to actually do something.
 
I moved out to Seattle from Milwaukee. Literally everyone there acted like I was a hick and would actually say I had never met a black person. I'd then have to inform them than Milwaukee is 40+% black while Seattle was 7%. Minneapolis also has less than 20% black population. So why did Milwaukee have 1,000x less rioting and looting despite these cities being of fairly equal size? Because Milwaukee is tons more apolitical than either city so there's no LARPing AntiFa to channel nigger rage into something more destructive than burning the ghetto.
really it was the Bronze Fonz brought peace and understanding
One thing that interests me is that they don't even have an well functioning replacement for the police, basic security, or social services yet. What are they even gonna do if someone or some people start to do things that are "wrong" and "illegal" to them? What happens if someone is wounded beyond the point of being able to be treated with a first aid kit? Do they just die?
These people don't think ahead if you can't tell
 
We joke about Warlord Raz and the upcoming starving times, but everyone knows this will collapse. Let it happen without violence. Show them the futility of their best efforts, without giving the excuse of "things were going great until Trump invaded".

There's no "win" for Trump in sending in troops, except for the lulz you and I would get from it, which is a win for us but nobody else.

I respect everything you're saying but I think this is where you're wrong. There is no "without violence" scenario possible here. Look at what happened in Philly in the 80s with MOVE, they took over, people tried to ignore it, eventually they had to burn them out.

Thats why I am disappointed. There WILL be violence, its not possible to avoid, only delay. The non-delay choice is better because you at least demonstrate authority. We've lost that chance and the remaining ones are not good.
 
I respect everything you're saying but I think this is where you're wrong. There is no "without violence" scenario possible here. Look at what happened in Philly in the 80s with MOVE, they took over, people tried to ignore it, eventually they had to burn them out.

Thats why I am disappointed. There WILL be violence, its not possible to avoid, only delay. The non-delay choice is better because you at least demonstrate authority. We've lost that chance and the remaining ones are not good.
These people are nowhere near as competent as MOVE. They will fuck off back under whatever rocks they crawled from once actual work needs to happen.
 
Is it just me or these people just have never paid attention to events like WACCO before. I mean, this is epic because literally the government has to do nothing but barricade them off from the rest of the city, and essentially let them just starve to death. This will literally be the perfect case study for all of these commie larpers to learn the true issues with their ideology. I wrote a list of flaws that I've found in their model:

1 ) They're commies
2 ) The "field nurses" are very incompetent half baked drop outs.
3 ) They're supplies are reliant on the already existing urban supply chain.
4 ) Likely they are surrounded by the national guard, the feds, and the SWAT.
5 ) They have not mastered the ancient practice of agriculture.
6 ) Their leader has amounted nothing to be a third rate sound cloud rapper.
7 ) They trade shit tickets and cigarettes/prison currency.
8 ) Certain members have been already getting rounded up and brought to the black sites/FEMA camps.
9 ) How are they going to power anything without access to fuel, let alone the resources/machinery/refineries necessary to get said fuel.
10 ) Their crop yields are too low to sustain more than a few people.
11 ) They barely have any weapons, how come CHEZ the Chad was able to take over so easily.
12 ) The homeless raided them already once.
13 ) 1 hellfire missile would ping off that entire "occupied zone."
14 ) They are relying on the internet/ cellular service, once there are jammers they will no longer have access to the outside world.
15 ) Their ranks consist of soyboys, karens, neckbeards, joggers, teen girls, all equally cringe, and incompetent.
16 ) They are so disorganized that one moment of inconvenience turns into absolute and utter self annihilation because of lack of self control, hence inner group fighting. This was already demonstrated in their general tactics in their social media, as well what we've observed during the protests.
17 ) If any decide to leave the commune point 8 will be repeated.
18 ) Unless they are trading in crypto all of their money is traceable and whatever accounts they are keeping likely are already being monitored and will be seized by the Federal government in the matter of days.
19 ) How in the fuck are they going to have access to any type of water to stay hydrated, especially since the summer months. Polluted Seattle rain water probably isn't the best to drink, and seeing they're understanding of architecture. I highly doubt their understanding of reverse osmosis and distillation is any better beyond an elementary level.
20 ) Aren't we still in the middle of a Pandemic?
21 ) Neighboring gangs could easily swoop in and challenge their control of said territory.
22 ) What happens when they run out of their narcotics, because most of these people obviously are fans of said substances.
23 ) Medical supplies where already difficult to acquire in normal circumstances, along with I am not aware of any clinics or hospitals being in their general vicinity. A couple of COVID patients is all that would be needed to fuck everything up, hence I re-frame to 20.
24 ) Just like in OCCUPY, all the police have to really do is give them the illusion of control over the situation. They'll let em be isolated in their one little part of the city, but once the bulldozers start coming in there really isn't much they can do but hope they don't get their tents crushed.
25 ) Even if they last until the winter, let alone last until the first day of summer how will they acquire the lumber necessary or materials necessary to stay warm.
26) What happens if there is an infestation of ticks, maggots, or any other type of insect that can contaminate their food supplies, let alone any of their clothing.
27) How can they bathe with out sanitary products?

These are all of the flaws that I just could think of with this whole scenario and there are probably way more variables I haven't even considered. Essentially, these people are sitting ducks, they are not going to be able to escape. It's either they run out of food, water, or else they get over run by various other opposing forces. Likely their access to communication will get shut off, they'll start getting paranoid. Realize their food is too low, and they start freaking out. Then that is when the SS starts marching in, and then they are completely fucked. This is how come a commune is never established in an already pre-existing urban zone, it is just too fucking easy to cut that zone off from the rest of the world. Along with too many opposing forces exist,

I mean hell the locals probably just about had it with these faggots, and might as well just start getting some revenge for all of the devastation they've caused over the last couple of weeks. They really think people are that afraid of them and wouldn't openly challenge their bullshit. They are really this arrogant, that they'll just parade themselves right in front of the firing squad, because they are just that entitled to live for FREE. Also unlike their buggalo counterparts, I doubt that outside of a small section of them actually have any type of survivalist type of expertise. Hence why they situated themselves in the city and not in some isolated area by the shoreline. Even if so, all it would take is one of those Naval carriers to go full Somalia pirate purge, and wipe their whole insurgency in the matter of a minute and a half. I give it probably 2 weeks from today that we will see a bunch of dead ANTIFA people. These are no longer protests, therefore now Trump has full 100% clearance to start using the might of the military.
Waco was right-wing. This is left-wing, and it was originally white people, so it's ok, unlike say Black Panthers, which was left-wing but Black.
 
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