CN China has just returned the first-ever samples from the far side of the moon - 我们在月球上回到天堂

JUNE 25, 2024 3:38 AM ET
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The Chang'e 6 capsule landed in the Chinese province of Inner Mongolia on Tuesday.

A Chinese probe has returned to Earth carrying the first samples ever taken from the far side of the moon. Chinese state television broadcast images Tuesday of the capsule holding the samples, as it floated down under parachute onto the grassy steppe of Inner Mongolia.

Scientists say the rocks inside the little space capsule could open a new window into how our nearest neighbor formed.

Chang’e 6, which landed on the far side in early June, wouldn’t be the first space mission to send home moon rocks that rewrote textbooks. Samples taken by Neil Armstrong during the Apollo 11 mission in 1969 upended what was then the prevailing theory about how the moon came to be.

Prior to Apollo, researchers had thought that it formed when a bunch of asteroids near Earth gradually glommed together. But the minerals in the moon rocks that the astronauts brought back suggested a much more violent origin story, according to Richard Carlson, director emeritus of the Earth and Planets Laboratory at Carnegie Science in Washington D.C.

“The wisdom now is that something the size of Mars, for example, hit the Earth and spalled off enough material to put it into orbit and form the moon,” he says.

In other words, the giant ball of molten magma that was ripped from the Earth by this collision eventually cooled into the orb we see in the sky.

The theory is widely accepted today, but the evidence remains somewhat limited. That’s because the Apollo missions (as well as the Soviet Union’s robotic Luna missions) all landed on the near side of the moon — the one that always faces the Earth.

“Think about the geology of the Earth: If you only landed in North America, you’d be missing a big part of the story, right?” says Carlson.

China’s latest robotic probe, called Chang’e 6, landed on the far side of the moon. That’s a much more challenging task because the far side faces away from our planet and there’s no direct way to communicate. Instead, Chang’e 6 relied on a satellite orbiting the moon to relay its signal.

Earlier this month it used a drill and scoop to collect samples from a lava flow in an area known as the South Pole-Aitken Basin. Carlson says these new samples should confirm the Apollo-era origin story — that the entire moon was forged quickly around 4.5 billion years ago.

If the Chang’e 6 sample “gives the same age as the stuff from Apollo… then the likelihood is that you’re really looking at a global event,” he says. If not, then the textbooks will have to be rewritten again.

Jim Head, a planetary scientist at Brown University, says that the far side of the moon has many other mysteries as well. Unlike the near side, he says, the far side appears heavily cratered and mostly devoid of lava-flooded areas known as “maria”.

“It’s pretty clear that the far side and the near side have many, many differences,” Head says. “It’s a really critical issue. You can’t understand the origin of a planet with one hemisphere.”

China and the U.S. are in competition with each other these days, including over the moon. Both nations say they want to send humans back to the lunar surface by sometime around the end of the decade.

But China has also offered to share at least some of its new moon samples with American researchers, and NASA is allowing the U.S. scientists to submit proposals. Carlson is all for it:

“Somehow I suspect that international politics doesn’t depend on our models for the origin of the moon,” he says.

NPR's Huo Jingnan 霍景男 contributed to this report.
 
China's a crappy country with a lot of things that are run badly, or in a barely acceptable way. Their concrete is crappy, their machinery is crappy, their infrastructure is crappy, their institutions are crappy. It is all very mid. Most chinks would probably admit so much. But even so, this crappy, badly run 5/10 country did the landing and retrieved those samples.

What's our excuse in the west? Where is our moon base? Where are our first manned Mars landings and surveys? Where are our plans to extend our reach to the asteroid belt?

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The future belongs to those with will and ability. We don't have the first anymore, and soon we will not have the second either. Where does that put us?
 
Have you ever looked at maps of the moon?

The side facing Earth has a bunch of mares (dark spots) while the dark side has none;
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This is a long-standing mystery and its very likely that the dark side is geologically different then the side facing earth.
This discussion is asking me to reach back to what little planetary geology (aka, geology of space) I learned as an undergrad, so take this with as much salt as you feel appropriate. That said:

The maria (and even some of the bigger craters) are dark because they're 'fresh' rock surface, mostly unblemished by craters. They're the result of the last lava flows (aka flood basalts) to cool on the moon's surface. The craters with black at the bottom are those craters whose impactors were big enough to turn the crater floor into a sea of molten rock after initial impact, and that subsequently have either not been hit, or only hit a little bit by smallish objects. You can still see craters in the maria, for example, including several sizeable ones in the photo you linked. Some of the larger dark craters show signs of other impacts as well.

As to why you get white ejecta blankets from blasting the fuck out of black rock, it has to do with the composition of that rock. The surface is chiefly anorthosite - a rock that's mostly plagioclase feldspar. There are other properly dark minerals as well, like pyroxenes, olivines, and others common to basalts and the like. Plagioclase can vary from white to almost black depending on iron and calcium content in its makeup, but regardless of what color a big crystal is, if you crush it to powder, it'll be white or some very pale shade of gray.

As far as the lack of maria on the far side of the moon, I am not sure that's a sign of difference in composition so much as it might be a sign of different effects of the forces at play on the moon for the last however many billions of years. Wild-ass guessing, maybe it's due to the last of the 'hot stuff' at the core of the moon being pulled more earthward by the influences of Earth's gravity, or something, so you had a situation akin to the yolk in a hardboiled egg being off-kilter as opposed to dead center. That said, totally open to being wrong. Just not sure their finds will be all that significant, given what we (think we already) know about lunar geology and formation.
 
No. Oh wow! North America has mountains made by plate tectonics on large bodies of water formed by glaciers. Asia has mountains made by plate tectonics and large bodies of water formed by glaciers. What a difference.

The moon rocks aren't going to show anything that is going to "rewrite textbooks". The rocks on the dark side of the moon are going to be the same as the rocks on the visible side

This is just my opinion. Maybe the dark side is made of green cheese.
Seems like you know the answer; so why bother exploring? Theories are great, but they require confirmation. If we thought like you we’d never have gone to the moon in the first place and have settled on the original thesis (which was wrong).

The probe may have picked up material from the innumerable impacts on the dark side too. Nothing is certain.
 
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Seems like you know the answer; so why bother exploring? Theories are great, but they require confirmation. If we thought like you we’d never have gone to the moon in the first place and have settled on the original thesis (which was wrong).

The probe may have picked up material from the innumerable impacts on the dark side too. Nothing is certain.
And going to the moon was so important that we haven't been back in 50 years.
 
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