CN China's population shrinks for the first time in six decades

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China's population shrinks for the first time in six decades​

Decline jeopardizes Xi's ambition to overtake U.S. as world's biggest economy

An elderly woman rides a tricycle in a village on the outskirts of Beijing. The world's most populous nation is grappling with a low birth rate. © Reuters
CK TAN, Nikkei staff writerJanuary 17, 2023 11:30 JSTUpdated on January 17, 2023 12:22 JST
SHANGHAI -- China's population shrank last year for the first time since the early 1960s, jeopardizing President Xi Jinping's ambition to overtake the U.S. as the world's biggest economy.
Data released on Tuesday by the National Bureau of Statistics showed China's population stood at 1.41175 billion in 2022. The birthrate was the lowest on record, and the death rate the highest since 1976. The natural population growth rate was a negative 0.6 per thousand, a slide from 2021's 0.34.
The population contraction confirmed the fears of officials and demographers who have raised the alarm for years as Chinese couples delay marriage. India is now expected to replace China as the world's most populous country this year.
Beijing introduced a "three-child policy" in 2020 to arrest the population decline, replacing an earlier "two-child policy" in 2016, which itself dialed back on the controversial "one-child policy" previously used to curb population growth.
The ruling Communist Party vowed at its national congress in October to introduce policies to boost birthrates and lower the cost of having babies.
Under a five-year economic plan through 2025, Beijing proposed gradually extending the retirement age to 65 for men and 60 for women, up from the current 60 and 55. It also promised to provide a better workplace environment for mothers and pregnant women.
The fall in the birthrate was the first since the Great Leap Forward famine in the late 1950s and came after the country announced a sharp increase in COVID deaths to nearly 60,000 in the five weeks through Jan. 12.
As in some other Asian countries, the uncertainty brought by the pandemic has added to young people's reluctance to get married and have children.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

From what I read it actually declined a few years ago.

 

[HarveyMCR]

It beginnnnnns

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

This article reminds me of an ex-friend of mine who was always praising China for its One-Child Policy. He prattled on about how it was placing China in a better position than the United States without explaining how and ignoring demographic realities. He also unironically bought into the solar roadways hype so take that as you will.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Meanwhile, the U.S. is full steam ahead to 500 million browns.

 

[Milkis]

From what I read it actually declined a few years ago.

Correct. "China belatedly admits there is a limit to how much it can fudge its population figures". The question of the PRC faking its demographic stats is a deep, deep rabbit hole. Guesstimates are that China might actually be overreporting its population by like 10 or 15 million, or in the upper bound even 30 million. Of course, China's population is so big that it's only a 1-2% discrepancy off the total figure, but in the extreme case, India has actually already overtaken China for #1.

 

[Matajudios]

This article reminds me of an ex-friend of mine who was always praising China for its One-Child Policy. He prattled on about how it was placing China in a better position than the United States without explaining how and ignoring demographic realities. He also unironically bought into the solar roadways hype so take that as you will.

Did he get his vasectomy? Overpopulation is only a third world problem. Every other country is shrinking without immigration expect Israel. It's definitely helps when you get a free money rain from oligarchs and the US, and are allowed to be nationalist. I also think a lot of these overpopulation fags secretly hate living in their crammed cities.

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

Did he get his vasectomy? Overpopulation is only a third world problem. Every other country is shrinking without immigration expect Israel. It's definitely helps when you get a free money rain from oligarchs and the US, and are allowed to be nationalist. I also think a lot of these overpopulation fags secretly hate living in their crammed cities.

I don't know (nor do I really care). We had a falling because he was a MAJOR Hillary bro and he took umbrage when I expressed my distaste for her on Facebook. His usual tactic was to spout banalities about "trying to understand different points of view" and attempt to gaslight the hell out of me. However, I decided to stand my ground and he went ballistic by insinuating that I was an ingrate for not accepting his superior wisdom before un-friending me. I haven't heard from him since, which was just over six years ago and I never attempt contact since.

 

[Jewthulhu]

China's population is rapidly aging from what I understand. I'm curious to see how chink boomers dying is going to effect China's geopolitical standing in the next few decades.

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

Correct. "China belatedly admits there is a limit to how much it can fudge its population figures". The question of the PRC faking its demographic stats is a deep, deep rabbit hole. Guesstimates are that China might actually be overreporting its population by like 10 or 15 million, or in the upper bound even 30 million. Of course, China's population is so big that it's only a 1-2% discrepancy off the total figure, but in the extreme case, India has actually already overtaken China for #1.

And the deception is balanced heavily in favor of overreporting younger women - Leaving them with millions more men who will never be able to marry due to a shortage of potential women. That's a whole separate rabbit hole of fuckery.

China's not having a good 202X's so far, and the Chinese Century already looks to be a pipe dream.

 

[Mojo Thief]

China's population is rapidly aging from what I understand. I'm curious to see how chink boomers dying is going to effect China's geopolitical standing in the next few decades.

And unlike Japan and Korea, China's population is aging and stagnating while a significant portion of the populace still live like dirt farmers and resent the wealthy urban folk. That's going to create a major problem for the CCP when the economy tanks and the rural poor decide to revolt.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

China's population is rapidly aging from what I understand. I'm curious to see how chink boomers dying is going to effect China's geopolitical standing in the next few decades.

India has a lot more youth and is a much younger country, so even before they outnumbered the Chinese they had a significant advantage in manpower imo.

And unlike Japan and Korea, China's population is aging and stagnating while a significant portion of the populace still live like dirt farmers and resent the wealthy urban folk. That's going to create a major problem for the CCP when the economy tanks and the rural poor decide to revolt.

History rhymes.

 

[Absolutego]

And the deception is balanced heavily in favor of overreporting younger women - Leaving them with millions more men who will never be able to marry due to a shortage of potential women. That's a whole separate rabbit hole of fuckery.

China's not having a good 202X's so far, and the Chinese Century already looks to be a pipe dream.

Imagine having the entirety of human history to look at as an example, and deciding to deliberately manufacture a crisis of un-marriageable young men in your country anyways. Like that isn't the single biggest indicator of domestic unrest (moreso even than plagues and famine) in any given country.
Mao easily takes the cake as the most retarded modern Chinese leader for his general fuckery during WWII and the Cultural Revolution, but Deng Xiaoping gave him a run for his fucking money with the One Child Policy.

 

[Ser Prize]

Meanwhile, the U.S. is full steam ahead to 500 million browns.

"Ese! We are true americans, holmes! Now gib monies!"

The fate of the west is so depressing.

 

[Nacho Man Randy Salsa]

Well Taiwan is fucked. Its now or never.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

It would be a big trip to find out that most of the population decline from China is due to the fact that most people want to move to either Taiwan or South Korea.

 

[Catler]

China isn’t immune to global social trends, imagine my shock.

At least the Han Chinese won’t have to worry about their government replacing them with third worlders.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

China isn’t immune to global social trends, imagine my shock.

At least the Han Chinese won’t have to worry about their government replacing them with third worlders.

Could we said the same thing about the Tibetans?

 

[GumballFapper]

The scary part is if Xi tries to take a page from Pootin's book and try to increase the population of his rapidly dying country by attempting to annex Taiwan

If a war with a country with nothing to offer other than grain (Ukraine) has fucked up the world order so much, imagine what happens when an important link in global chip industry gets fucked

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

It would be a big trip to find out that most of the population decline from China is due to the fact that most people want to move to either Taiwan or South Korea.

IIRC a lot of the poorer Chinese need permission to even move around INSIDE China.

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