CN China's Xi accused the US of trying to trick him into invading Taiwan, but said he won't take the bait, report says - "We were simply pretending to be retarded," says Xi

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China's leader, Xi Jinping, accused the US of trying to trick China into invading Taiwan but said his country wouldn't take the bait, the Financial Times reported, citing people familiar with the matter.

The FT said Xi made the accusation in April last year during a meeting with European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen.

Xi has issued the same warning to officials in his own country, one person told the FT, but this is first known case of him making the claim to a foreign leader, the outlet said.

During the meeting, according to a press statement released at the time, Xi said Taiwan was at the "core" of China's interests, adding: "If anyone expects China to compromise and concede on the Taiwan question, they are having a pipe dream and would shoot themselves in the foot."
Xi's accusation against the US wasn't featured in the statement.
For decades, the US has adopted "strategic ambiguity" toward Taiwan, positioning itself as the country's most steadfast ally, while declining to explicitly say whether it would come to Taiwan's aid if China attacked.
But the mood in Washington, DC, seems to be shifting, with Congress showing itself more "overtly supportive of Taiwan than only a few years ago," Graeme Thompson, an analyst with the Eurasia Group, told Business Insider in November.

Last month, a US congressional delegation met with senior Taiwanese officials to discuss US-Taiwan relations a few days after China conducted military drills around the island.

During the visit, Rep. Andy Barr, a cochair of the Taiwan caucus in Congress, said there should be "no doubt" and "no skepticism" in the US, Taiwan, or anywhere else around "American resolve to maintain the status quo and peace in the Taiwan Strait," according to the Associated Press.

President Joe Biden has repeatedly said that the US would defend Taiwan.

Kerry Brown, the director of the Lau China Institute at King's College London, told BI that Xi's reported accusation is a sign that China is "genuinely surprised" and "shocked" by the US's more recent "aggressiveness."

"The US has plenty of public figures now talking of Taiwan like it is a new Ukraine, and some even saying it needs to be diplomatically recognized," Brown added.

Mike Pompeo, the secretary of state during the Trump administration, and John Bolton, a former national security advisor, are among those calling for such a measure.

This is a problem for China, Brown said, as it's "clearly a red line and one that it will need to do something about if it is crossed."

During a meeting in April, China's foreign minister, Wang Yi, told US Secretary of State Antony Blinken not to cross China's "red lines" on sovereignty, security, and development interests.

Brown, who served as first secretary at the UK Embassy in Beijing from 2000 to 2003, said that behind Xi's "complaint" was the hope that other Western allies "might just calm the US down."

Whether it will have any impact is another matter, he added.

Last week, Adm. Samuel Paparo, the top US admiral in the Pacific, told The Washington Post that the US could deploy thousands of drones if China invaded Taiwan, with the "unmanned hellscape" buying time for the US military to come to Taiwan's aid.
 
Yeah no

Chiner can't invade Taiwan without taking out Kadena, otherwise Murica doesn't even need to send carriers it can just fly whatever it needs to out of Kadena to bomb the shit out of the invasion force. Japan knows its Chiner's bitch if it doesn't cling to the US one thousand percent

They and Vietnam and the Flips can't survive if China successfully takes Taiwan, next up would be China telling them to stand and deliver. The US would be humiliated and effectively pushed out of the western Pacific, who is going to stand with them then? Nobody

What I said is exactly that India would sit and wait and would only jump on Chiner if it thought it could get away with it

Try thinking instead of poltarding

China and Vietnam just upgraded their diplomatic ties to the highest level and China is Vietnam's biggest trading partner and industrial inputs supplier. Chinese companies use Vietnam to get around American sanctions and tariffs and the Vietnamese love it as they get essentially free money. This would literally be like Belarus declaring war on Russia or Mongolia doing the same to China.

The Flips have a joke Navy and a air force fit for parades and maybe bombing Muslim insurgents every so often.

They're almost a military non factor and might have a China dock sucker like Duterte in office when the potential invasion kicks off.

As for Japan..... They literally cannot go to war and it's telling that you have no idea how ridiculously anti war Japanese people and the VAST majority of the Japanese state is. The Japanese military is aging as fast as the rest and is getting smaller every year. They can barely crew their ships at the moment.

Unless China literally invaded Japan or killed thousands of Japanese civilians Japan would be either neutral or would limit itself to logistical and Intel support.

S. Korea wouldn't want to piss off it's biggest trading partner and give the Chinese another reason to keep the Chinese supporting N. Korea.

The ONLY country on EARTH with a semi treaty to keep Taiwan safe is the USA.

Everyone else will sit back and see what happens.

They saw Putin failing and backed the fuck up.

The Chinese invasion of Taiwan wasn't even an option before ~2027 in Chinese military thinking over a decade ago.

Way back it was thought to be an option in the 2030s or even 2040s (basically before 2049).

Why the fuck would India aid the US in a war against China?

Because some people here actually think "realpolitik" isn't real and that everyone is itching to go to war against their largest trading partner and supplier of key industrial inputs vs.... you know.... Staying neutral.

Because China keeps fucking with the Indian border and they are sick of that shit.

It's not a massive deal and has Mostly been diplomatically taken care of.

It's a few kilometers here and there and the region is at high altitude and is quite cold and barren.

Because India and China are both aggressive nationalist powers who keep butting heads in the Himalayas. Indian nationalists hate and fear China because of 1962 and because of the recent brawls in the mountains. China looks down on India as a bunch of (literally) shitty foreign devils who should know their place

India would never go past mountain brawls unless China were distracted and looking like it was in trouble... then great opportunities would arise for India to take a shot at reclaiming Aksai Chin, or gaining a lot of gratitude from the West for sending its navy out into the Indian Ocean to interdict any merchant vessels attempting to reach China before they even get to the Strait of Malacca. If China were already caught up with its attention and resources focused on fighting thousands of miles to the east from the Himalayas and Indian Ocean, both would be low risk moves that Murica would reward India bigly for

Uhh no. India is a nationalistic "3rd way" / non aligned country who isn't a fucking US puppet. Same with Vietnam.

The Chinese military is huge and it's highly doubtful they'd take anything away from the border regions for a Taiwan campaign. The Indian military, on the other hand has been mostly underfunded for decades and LOST the 1962 war....

1. Who is Indias #1 enemy
2. Who is the USAs "special non-nato ally" that has been given billions of dollars since 9/11?

Note that the above questions have the same answer!
Ahaha Pakistan

India has a lot more issues with Pakistan than China.

Plus in the Himalayas, India is going uphill to Chinese positions.

China has more manpower and equipment up there and China can and will turbocharge the ongoing Maoist insurgency in central/southern India and the Islamic one in Kashmir if they want to fuck with India in an indirect manner.

Indian's military, and Air Force in particular are under funded and behind on their modernization plans and on the air force's case, missing 10 entire squadrons in their order of battle due to Attrition and aircraft retirement without replacement..

It has taken India nearly 35 YEARS to make a Mig-21 class jet to replace their 1970s era Mig-21 fleet.

They've just made the 40th jet out of 120 ordered and they're actually switching to a upgraded model as the initial one is kinda outdated at the moment. The upgrade hasn't hit IOC yet....
 
I think the suggestion is it would be indirect aid: if China tries to cross the strait, everyone knows that takes massive mobilization and likely leaves other borders softer and slower to reinforce, so India might decide that's a good time to fuck around on its northern border with China while the PLA tries to recreate D-Day to take a tiny island on the ass other side of China's borders.
Pajeets don’t fight fair. They’ll wait until the ideal moment to kick you in the balls.
 
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If you actually think Japan, Vietnam and India would actually get involved.... LMAO

They'll sit back and wait for things to pan out. Just like China in Myanmar.
Most of SE Asia is pissed at China for slicing more and more from what China calls the south china sea. They've been attacking ships near the Philippines lately. With water cannon.
 
Most of SE Asia is pissed at China for slicing more and more from what China calls the south china sea. They've been attacking ships near the Philippines lately. With water cannon.
Yep and it's just the PH getting shit at the moment.

China has been slowly and quietly resolving or negotiating other issues diplomatically with Malaysia, Indonesia and Vietnam.


The PH will probably go back to being pro-CCP when Duterte's daughter becomes president in 2028....
 
If anything's become clear the last 8 years, it's that Media and the political class in the west really, REALLY want world war 3 to happen. Until COVID happened though they didn't have the right chance to start actually fucking with things. They've got not 1, not 2, but 3 foreverwars geared up to go over what were initially pretty minor/standard international conflicts, and the drafts coming back. Xi can be a pretty nasty and petty politician, and is infamously kinda both at times, but at the very least even HE recognizes this shit going down with the constant fearmongering about his country by the US based companies that simultaneously make profit off his countries labor and are supposedly shaky but strong "allies". Fuck this artifically induced world war 3 pushing shit for real.

Still not forgiving him for the shit both him, the chinese politicians/media, AND the us politcians /media did with badly trying to cover up/distract from the corona outbreak in 2019-2020 though, or really any other bullshit. This is just one of the times he's actually not doing shit that suits the means of other guys.
 
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Why the fuck would India aid the US in a war against China?
India and China are already at each other's throats over their border (literally - they were going at one another with clubs and swords like a fucking medieval raid quite recently). It's not about India aiding the US, it's about exploiting a two-front war for their own geopolitical interests.

But the logistical nightmare of staging an amphibious offensive in a place like Taiwan with an utterly unproven military and the deadman switch of the processor tech monopoly makes it a moot point anyway. Hence why Xi has to doublespeak his way around why he won't be "baited" into actually attempting to resolve what he himself declares his country's supposedly single most vitally important geopolitical priority.
 
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The PLA's projection was they'd be ready to invade no earlier than 2035. With the proper troop transports and aircraft. Also the average troop age would be forty. After millennials, demographically they are over.
China will win or lose the war within the first 100,000 casualties.
There's only a few beaches China can land at, so numbers aren't a deciding factor.

If they manage to somehow overwhelm the defenders before Taiwan can mobilise, then they've won.
If their initial attack fails, then it doesn't matter how large their second attack is against against the US.

Technological advances usually favour the attacker, so Beijing isn't under real pressure to invade due to demographic forecasts.
You know Russia is winning, right?
It's more Ukraine is losing than Russia winning unfortunately. Those maimed UKR vets and destroyed infrastructure will be Russia's responsibility once they 'win'.
 
this is pretty obvious. they're trying to get china to invade taiwan the same way they got russia to invade ukraine. the same way the us got the ussr to invade afghanistan. is this baby's first foreign policy or something?
 
I did part of my Masters program in Taiwan back in the mid 90's.
I spent 9 or 10 months there, it was great.

A Taiwan invasion is on the cards for '25.
 
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this is pretty obvious. they're trying to get china to invade taiwan the same way they got russia to invade ukraine. the same way the us got the ussr to invade afghanistan. is this baby's first foreign policy or something?
After enough exposure to it you begin to recognize the glow of the iridescent beast.
 
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It is important to remember that despite all the news reports to the contrary (which the USA pays for), the USA still holds immense power over all other nations.
Clearly not against Russia. Or are we supposed to believe that America baited Russia and that the war there really is supposed to last forever? I wouldn’t doubt it much, but seems too smart for our recent crop of politicians and bureaucrats to pull off.
 
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