Chinese Communist Party Megathread - Cold War 2: Electric Boogaloo

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geckogoy said:
Too true my friend
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And what happened to Japan and the US there? It looks like you're describing a global trend. The one child policy should have been repealed in the 1980s to prevent the 90s and 20s collapse. But there seems to have been a structural collapse in both modernizing countries, with only the US opening its border to high fertility retard farmer populations from Latin America feeding the 90s baby boom and 20 year 2 per woman streak.

I'm not trying to be contrarian, things are pretty fucking dire there, but this just looks like a trend that hit high IQ racial groups he modern age--the culture that both of them absorbed is American more than anything else--globalization was also a cultural Americanization for Japan and China, partial, but still profoundly impactful. It's not as if the lifting of the family planning policies lead to a baby boom--there was just no suppressed demand for the new policy to unlock. Maybe in the 80s? But by the time they had largely Americanized in attitudes to sex and marriage, it was too late, demand had been conditioned down by culture as much as policy. What is it about living in these societies that keeps birth rates low?
 
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At best they partook of the same jewish cum chalice as everyone else and failed to beat the global trend, and at worst it can be pointed out they are actually amongst the worst off, for instance there are only five countries in a worse situation according to wikipedia (apparently hong kong is down to 0.8 holy shit).
 
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geckogoy said:
At best they partook of the same jewish cum chalice as everyone else and failed to beat the global trend, and at worst it can be pointed out they are actually amongst the worst off, for instance there are only five countries in a worse situation according to wikipedia (apparently hong kong is down to 0.8 holy shit).
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Hong Kong is horror.
Some kind of authoritarian cyberpunk capitalist dystopia. Its like you took all that was shit about capitalism and added the worst aspects of CCP control, nepotism and autocracy ontop of it and mixed it with a complete lack of space.

Who would want to bring a child into this, from middle class down to working poor/pensioner.
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Harambe said:
What is it about living in these societies that keeps birth rates low?
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People packed too tightly into big cities + who needs kids when you have a career to make and Twitter, Facebook and Netflix?
 
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Usually there's a several decade lag time in between standard of living increase and birth rate decline

Not in China though big thunk...

The real horseshoe theory is that birth rates decline at both ends, when times are good and when times are bad economically
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Chinese economy is in the shitter, housing is expensive, wages are cut and young people refuse to breed like rabbits for the regime like 7 kids per household like Putin told to Russians for example. Xi can't be that batshit and making pregnancy mandatory.

It's a slow and embarrassing death to say the, I posted a graph ITT where it shows China's ethnic minorities breed faster than han Chinese
 
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Harambe said:
And what happened to Japan and the US there? It looks like you're describing a global trend. The one child policy should have been repealed in the 1980s to prevent the 90s and 20s collapse. But there seems to have been a structural collapse in both modernizing countries, with only the US opening its border to high fertility retard farmer populations from Latin America feeding the 90s baby boom and 20 year 2 per woman streak.

I'm not trying to be contrarian, things are pretty fucking dire there, but this just looks like a trend that hit high IQ racial groups he modern age--the culture that both of them absorbed is American more than anything else--globalization was also a cultural Americanization for Japan and China, partial, but still profoundly impactful. It's not as if the lifting of the family planning policies lead to a baby boom--there was just no suppressed demand for the new policy to unlock. Maybe in the 80s? But by the time they had largely Americanized in attitudes to sex and marriage, it was too late, demand had been conditioned down by culture as much as policy. What is it about living in these societies that keeps birth rates low?
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The issue of developedcountries having a low birthrate is nothing new. This seems to be the natural order of things to an extent; when education and wealth increase, births decrease. We've seen this in Japan, South Korea, all of Europe, and the US (though in the last, its been offset by immigration). The problem with China is that it isn't a developed country, its a developing one. It doesn't have the high levels of wealth, developed economy, and welfare systems that the developed countries have. Most of its population are still poor peasants. China is growing old, before it grows rich, which is unique only to it, and will lead to a whole host of problems.
 
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Seems like propaganda, but boy it would be really funny if missiles failed to launch cause the troops replaced the fuel with water...
 
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Seems like propaganda, but boy it would be really funny if missiles failed to launch cause the troops replaced the fuel with water...
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It isn't propaganda. This was reported in multiple news sources, and the officer purges are happening right now in real time. Its more likely than not that most, if not all, of this is true.
 
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The Demon Pimp of Razgriz said:
The issue of developedcountries having a low birthrate is nothing new. This seems to be the natural order of things to an extent; when education and wealth increase, births decrease. We've seen this in Japan, South Korea, all of Europe, and the US (though in the last, its been offset by immigration). The problem with China is that it isn't a developed country, its a developing one. It doesn't have the high levels of wealth, developed economy, and welfare systems that the developed countries have. Most of its population are still poor peasants. China is growing old, before it grows rich, which is unique only to it, and will lead to a whole host of problems.
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Problem being China and Russia dipped birth rate below Japan and killing off quarter million of the population.

People emigrate, are too poor to have children and that ever important 30-35 year old demographic which pays the taxes and contributes the workforce. What are left are aging people and brainwashed children doomed to go way of the millennial, live in debt, turn out to be unemployed and up in army as meat shields

When Japan has better demographics and India surpassed China's population and industry. CCP and Xi permafucked China. Only solution is to instate 1984 police state, normalize poverty and war economy.
 
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Glowie said:
Only solution is to instate 1984 police state, normalize poverty and war economy.
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And that simply won't work for China in the long run. The Chinese people have gotten used to the comforts that have accrued to them via "capitalism with Chinese characteristics". They won't simply accept going back to life as it was in 1954 when everybody was a peasant, and neither will the party's leadership. Civil unrest is already a daily occurrence now and things will only get worse.
 
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The Demon Pimp of Razgriz said:
And that simply won't work for China in the long run. The Chinese people have gotten used to the comforts that have accrued to them via "capitalism with Chinese characteristics". They won't simply accept going back to life as it was in 1954 when everybody was a peasant, and neither will the party's leadership. Civil unrest is already a daily occurrence now and things will only get worse.
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Xi ordered banks to limit deposits/withdrawals, state owned companies are forming militias.

As much chinks want luxury, economy hit Japan tier bubble and those factories aren't coming back, CCP replaced low skilled labor with high education companies for Steal&Borrow departments. Even those jobs have low wages that barely cover basic bugpod and premanufactured food.
Chinese millennials, alpha and generation that follow lack future.

With factories gone, sanctions up the ass luxury products will be for the elite and chinks who pump Euros, USD and British Pound after taxes of course, era of luxury is closing and bootlegs are making a comeback. People can't do shit against tofu dreg products or construction, thanks to widespread corruption.

Nothing short of complete reform or collapse won't change that. You can't take self serging out of bugman. China will remain a low trust society thanks to corruption. It'll take another three generations and Xi's death to start reform and hopefully with less saber rattling and normalization of poverty.
 
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