Chinese Nationalists / Wumaodang (五毛党) / 50 Cent Party - CHINA NUMBAH WAN

[Ranger from Quake 1]

If China was the paradise they make it out to be, then I wouldn't be writing this post in English. Their propaganda tactics are no different from Nazi Germany. According to wumao, if you don't support the Chinese Government, you hate Chinese heritage. The same goes for the Nazi government: say anything bad about them, and they'll try to imply you hate German heritage. It's preposterous. The CCP has no right to take credit for Chinese civilization, especially when they're the ones who destroyed so much of it. No amount of western imperialism could have done as much damage as they did to their own people. They're masters of historical revisionism.

A while ago, my CCP supporter told my dad on facebook that "Why do you have to betray your chinese heritage and pretend to be a white man?
So he replied "Why do you pretend to be a free man?"

I can't imagine how moronic you'd have to be to take footage of one single festival in one single well off area as proof that there is no persecution of minorities nor government suppression in an entire country. It's selective ignorance at its finest. I really don't believe who they're trying to fool here.

The only ones they're trying to fool are Chinese expats and the scare few Chinese citizens who still have access to the outside internet. Somehow they've managed to sucker in a few western auth-com aspies too.

 

[buymygame]

This absolute lolcow farm is a great place to find content.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/

Its full of shit eater tier memes, and complaining about equally shit memes from all the political boards.
Then you've got one post mentioning how weird capitalism is, while also advertising a commie sim game on steam.

Pretty mentally challenged.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

The only ones they're trying to fool are Chinese expats and the scare few Chinese citizens who still have access to the outside internet. Somehow they've managed to sucker in a few western auth-com aspies too.

A lot of Chinese citizens do have access to the outside internet, VPNs are common. They're trying to gather support with overseas communists.

 

[discombobulate]

A lot of Chinese citizens do have access to the outside internet, VPNs are common. They're trying to gather support with overseas communists.

It's less than you might think proportionally. Only 10-15% use VPNs regularly and only a third have ever done it, and it's pretty much always just for banned entertainment. Even though the political posters are loud there aren't really that many of them. It doesn't help that the Chinese on the normal net speaking English are disproportionately political, whether because they're more affluent and educated or just because they're from HK.

I've worked with highly-educated, English-proficient, Chinese. Only two have ever been (privately) critical of the regime and even they weren't using VPNs for more than movies, and I'm not sure both were using VPNs. Even the more political one bought into the "China can't be a democracy yet" party line, though he supports HK. The other ones are all apolitical and unquestioning. Even though "Marxist theory" is a required class for all university students they couldn't repeat anything from it; one didn't know what the Cold War was even though that figures heavily into Maoist theory. YouTube was amazing to them though and they were spending hours on it.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

It's less than you might think proportionally. Only 10-15% use VPNs regularly and only a third have ever done it, and it's pretty much always just for banned entertainment. Even though the political posters are loud there aren't really that many of them. It doesn't help that the Chinese on the normal net speaking English are disproportionately political, whether because they're more affluent and educated or just because they're from HK.

I've worked with highly-educated, English-proficient, Chinese. Only two have ever been (privately) critical of the regime and even they weren't using VPNs for more than movies, and I'm not sure both were using VPNs. Even the more political one bought into the "China can't be a democracy yet" party line, though he supports HK. The other ones are all apolitical and unquestioning. Even though "Marxist theory" is a required class for all university students they couldn't repeat anything from it; one didn't know what the Cold War was even though that figures heavily into Maoist theory. YouTube was amazing to them though and they were spending hours on it.

You have to bear in mind that there are legitimate reasons for them to support the CCP. In just 40 years, they have gone from poorer than African shit holes to a superpower. This is a miraculous achievement and a lot of them will thank their leadership for that. If Xi Jinping held legitimate elections, he would win in a landslide outside Hong Kong. Modi absolutely dominated a far election in India in 2019 after pursuing similar modernisation.

I use the Chinese language internet as well and some of them are well informed on history, though they tend to describe it with a nationalist slant (the Korean war intervention was necessary to stop American troops on the border, Mao had some successes and some terrible mistakes but wasn't entirely bad, etc). Formal education often doesn't equate well to political knowledge though (see academic Marxists).

I see all manner of absolutely pants on head retarded political takes on here in English, China is no different.

 

[Glad I couldn't help]

Even though "Marxist theory" is a required class for all university students they couldn't repeat anything from it; one didn't know what the Cold War was even though that figures heavily into Maoist theory.

This is probable true the world over. Do you remember anything from social studies?

You have to bear in mind that there are legitimate reasons for them to support the CCP. In just 40 years, they have gone from poorer than African shit holes to a superpower. This is a miraculous achievement and a lot of them will thank their leadership for that. If Xi Jinping held legitimate elections, he would win in a landslide outside Hong Kong. Modi absolutely dominated a far election in India in 2019 after pursuing similar modernisation.

I use the Chinese language internet as well and some of them are well informed on history, though they tend to describe it with a nationalist slant (the Korean war intervention was necessary to stop American troops on the border, Mao had some successes and some terrible mistakes but wasn't entirely bad, etc). Formal education often doesn't equate well to political knowledge though.

I see all manner of absolutely pants on head retarded political takes on here in English, China is no different.

The CCP succeeded with economic devlopment only when jettisoned the substance of Marxist economics for the successful practices of Japan, South Korea and the other tigers, which, while not communism, is still not neoliberalist free-marketism either.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

This is probable true the world over. Do you remember anything from social studies?

The CCP succeeded with economic devlopment only when jettisoned the substance of Marxist economics for the successful practices of Japan, South Korea and the other tigers, which, while not communism, is still not neoliberalist free-marketism either.

Ironically, South Korean economic growth came from learning from the methods of notorious Japanese rapist and fascist Kishi Nobusuke in 1930s Manchuria. Thus, indirectly, modern China has partly based its ideas on those of someone who wanted to rape and enslave their whole country.

Nasty as he was, though, Kishi had some good economic ideas and his model works out a lot better than communist bollocks. As for free market neoliberalism, that doesn't have the best track record when it comes to environmental issues or national security.

 

[Lieutenant Rasczak]

Obligatory post to keep the wumaos and CCP shills away. You guys are free to save this simple image, it's worked many times before for me.

 

[Least Concern]

Ironically, South Korean economic growth came from learning from the methods of notorious Japanese rapist and fascist Kishi Nobusuke in 1930s Manchuria. Thus, indirectly, modern China has partly based its ideas on those of someone who wanted to rape and enslave their whole country.

Japanese imperialism was clearly based on European imperialism, right down to greatly improving infrastructure and industry in the places they occupied - if for no other reason than to aid in exploiting the local resources, but it happened nonetheless, and that infrastructure and the related knowledge didn't go away when they were kicked out. The Wikipedia article on Korea under Japanese rule has some uncomfortable graphs about how Korea's economy industrialized and education rates increased in the first half of the 20th century. Japanese imperialism had the best parts of British imperialism… right alongside the worst parts of Belgian imperialism.

 

[buymygame]

A lot of Chinese citizens do have access to the outside internet, VPNs are common. They're trying to gather support with overseas communists.

I remember seeing a handful of people from wuhan who appeared to be using twitter just like any other social media, and just uploading anything (obviously in mandarin only).

With that big lock down that occurred earlier this year, after a certain point, they'd upload videos of them waking up in the morning and finding people who'd hung themselves from the top of buildings, every few days. At one point, one had set fire to their apartment with themselves still in it I believe.

I forgot to archive them though.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

Japanese imperialism was clearly based on European imperialism, right down to greatly improving infrastructure and industry in the places they occupied - if for no other reason than to aid in exploiting the local resources, but it happened nonetheless, and that infrastructure and the related knowledge didn't go away when they were kicked out. The Wikipedia article on Korea under Japanese rule has some uncomfortable graphs about how Korea's economy industrialized and education rates increased in the first half of the 20th century. Japanese imperialism had the best parts of British imperialism… right alongside the worst parts of Belgian imperialism.

The real growth in Korea started after the Korean War, though. South Korea was getting aid from Kenya in the 1950s.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

 

[Windows XP Home Edition]

If China was the paradise they make it out to be, then I wouldn't be writing this post in English. Their propaganda tactics are no different from Nazi Germany. According to wumao, if you don't support the Chinese Government, you hate Chinese heritage. The same goes for the Nazi government: say anything bad about them, and they'll try to imply you hate German heritage. It's preposterous. The CCP has no right to take credit for Chinese civilization, especially when they're the ones who destroyed so much of it. No amount of western imperialism could have done as much damage as they did to their own people. They're masters of historical revisionism.

A while ago, my CCP supporter told my dad on facebook that "Why do you have to betray your chinese heritage and pretend to be a white man?
So he replied "Why do you pretend to be a free man?"

I can't imagine how moronic you'd have to be to take footage of one single festival in one single well off area as proof that there is no persecution of minorities nor government suppression in an entire country. It's selective ignorance at its finest. I really don't believe who they're trying to fool here.

Never mind the fact that there are other countries with bastions of Chinese culture such as Taiwan and Singapore where democracy thrives. Taiwan's government is basically an exiled Nationalist party that's thriving because they listen to the people's voice and openly take criticism. The CCP doesn't do that.

 

[Bayun Fulan]

Interestingly, I heard that Nathan rich had a drug history, which is absolutely prohibited in China.
There are still many foreigners who make money by praising China on the Chinese Internet. The more famous one is Guo Jierui. He even went to the TV station. There is no doubt that they have contact with the government.
There is also a Russian named Volta, whose video is ridiculed because it seems too exaggerated in praising China. People think that he is just making a show.
Of course, this kind of thing can't be too straightforward, but generally speaking, as long as you show criticism of the western government and praise of the Chinese government in the video, and then upload it to bilibilibili, people will praise your video. You can make profits through this. This is China's "wealth code".

 

[NerdShamer]

Interestingly, I heard that Nathan rich had a drug history, which is absolutely prohibited in China.

Just because something is outlawed in one of the most militaristic countries of the world doesn't necessarily means that it's impossible to get past the authorities.

 

[DungeonMaster]

Chinese neonazis? Now i've seen it all.

Has it ever occurred to you, Jan, that the footage that is playing was recorded and edited by the CCP so they could downplay their atrocities?
Besides, you can't just walk in to a concentration camp.
The amount of idiocy and ignorance here is astounding.
It's almost as though the CCP being dishonest is completely alien to him.

 

[Trapitalism]

The "Hotpot King" apparently got a tumor on his leg so we may not see much of him nowadays.

In other happenings, Dumbrill discusses the "fictitious" genocide in Xinjiang with some minor breadtuber called "Bay Area 415”

Chinese neonazis? Now i've seen it all.

Funnily enough, such a thing (kinda) exists. It's called the "National Socialism Association" (Chinese: 國家社會主義學會/国家社会主义学会), based in Taiwan, which according to the Wumaodang and KMT boomers, is part of China so I guess it counts?

 

[Lieutenant Rasczak]

Speaking of the Generation Zedong subplebbit, this is one of the images on their front page. How much cringe do you see in this picture on a scale from 1-10. Also, the irony if this picture is that Xi Jinping is an admirer of Adolf Hitler.

 

[Least Concern]

Xi Jinping is an admirer of Adolf Hitler.

[citation needed]?

 

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