Chris and Pity

[Ronichu]

Was Chris really a pity-seeking child though? I think people just naturally pitied him for being an obvious extraordinary youth, he didn't need to whine for it. By all indications he was a fairly happy, oblivious individual up till PVCC.

... which is when people stopped giving him automatic asspats for not choking himself to death today and putting adult expectations on him, like staying awake in classes, attend classes, attend tests and pass them, study, not being a lecherous creeper, etc. Then Barb taught him to whine for pity instead of work for genuine praise.

 

[asperhes]

they tend to dislike childishly effeminate guys, pity seeking cowards, poor life-long welfare recipients, ignorant and stupid autistic, and fatties

You've come close to describing Peter Griffin. Since Peter managed to snag a hot woman with whom he play dominant-submissive games in the cartoon universe where he is actually alive, Chris sees no reason why he can't either.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

Was Chris really a pity-seeking child though? I think people just naturally pitied him for being an obvious extraordinary youth, he didn't need to whine for it.

Well that's the heart of his current problem. He's so accustomed to being praised and coddled for no reason, he very much resents the idea that he should even have to ask for it these days.

 

[CatParty]

he's forever chasing that go-bot for just speaking

 

[Sakamoto]

they tend to dislike childishly effeminate guys, pity seeking cowards, poor life-long welfare recipients, ignorant and stupid autistic, and fatties

You've come close to describing Peter Griffin. Since Peter managed to snag a hot woman with whom he play dominant-submissive games in the cartoon universe where he is actually alive, Chris sees no reason why he can't either.

I think you nailed it. Peter Griffin is Chris' role model.
However, if someone like Peter Griffin lived in the real world, he wouldn't have a job and would probably still be living at home, no women would want to have anything to do with him, but he'd still be doing stupid shit. So Chris is close to how Peter would have turned out in reality. Except Peter has better hair and dresses decently.

 

[TrippinKahlua]

Its either "Give me Pity" or "Give me women" with him. Neither compliment each other, and nobody like him should want pity sex.

Oh, wait a minute, he thinks a woman will change everything, including the "muck & bodily fluids" his life was drug through.

 

[Some JERK]

He believes all those shows where the pitiful down-in-luck loser gets the girls.

Well, it's not unheard of for a woman to fall for a guy who's down on their luck, troubled, or emotionally delicate/wounded. (or honestly, sometimes even an outright loser.) In fact it happens all the time. The difference there is that there's got to be (or appear to be) something positive there just under that turbulent surface. With Chris, it's just negativity straight to the bone. (which isn't so much 'bone' as it is petrified negativity.)

 

[Venusaur]

Its either "Give me Pity" or "Give me women" with him. Neither compliment each other, and nobody like him should want pity sex.

That reminded me of this infamous video...

http://www.sonichu.com/cwcki/%22Damian_ ... NEED_YOU!!!

"C'mon. Damian. Damian Antaria. Give me a break! You know my, I don't want to be back in a situation where I'm, that desperate I got...Go as far as to pay a hundred dollars for a damn hooker. Give me a breaaak!! I'm a 28-year-old high-functioning autistic virgin! I'm in a hell of my own! C'mon, please? Pleeeeaaaase? I've been so very worried about you, I've had heartaches since last Wednesday. I've had sleepless nights! It really hurts! Heartaches hurt. Think about that."

Pity me! You're making me have heartaches! Feel bad and give me sex!

Well, it's not unheard of for a woman to fall for a guy who's down on their luck, emotionally delicate or wounded. (or honestly, sometimes even an outright loser.) In fact it happens all the time. The difference there is that there's got to be (or appear to be) something positive there under that turbulent surface. With Chris, it's just negativity straight to the bone. (which isn't so much 'bone' as it is petrified negativity.

Very true.

 

[Sweet and Savoury]

Well, the thing with Chrissy is that he really has nothing else to offer up.

Chrissy can't hold a friendship because he can only talk about himself and his interests, pretty boring hang out with someone like that.

Chrissy can't hold a relationship since he has no empathy or consideration for others. If you had a bad day his was worse and if you day rocked well you should have shared it with him. Feeling down? Don't expect Chrissy to care or even notice. Got promoted at work? Awesome but Crystal's diaper needs changing and don't forget dinner needs to be ready by 6 mmmm yah.

Material support? Not a chance, his money is for vidya and fast food and more then likely you'll need to support him while he loafs at home eating, sleeping and playing games.

So what else is there?

Chrissy can only offer a target for pity and really he is. His life sucks and will NEVER get better.

I sure feel pity for him.

 

[SPARKLETWAT]

I don't pity him. He doesn't TRY to better himself. He expects the world to obey his whims and tardrages when he doesn't get his way. I don't pity that kind of bullshit.

Someone I used to troll realized how fucked up they were and has since made huge improvements in their behavior online. It took only four years for them to wake up from Chris level immaturity to someone that's actually rather sweet to talk to.

How long has Chris been getting trolled now?

 

[Da Pickle Monsta]

This thread made me suddenly recall Sonic the Hedgehog on Saturday mornings when I was a kid. One episode, in particular, struck me a poignant to this thread. Here's a clip from the scene in question:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHpxCU3ib30

For those of you who don't want to click on it, basically Sonic the Hedgehog finds his uncle, who was turned into a robot, and at the end of the episode Sonic has to leave him behind to escape. Sonic starts crying and is immediately surrounded by his friends--most pointedly, two gal-pals--who immediately console him and give him pity.

I wonder if Chris managed to pick up something from this.

 

[AtroposHeart]

This thread made me suddenly recall Sonic the Hedgehog on Saturday mornings when I was a kid. One episode, in particular, struck me a poignant to this thread. Here's a clip from the scene in question:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHpxCU3ib30

For those of you who don't want to click on it, basically Sonic the Hedgehog finds his uncle, who was turned into a robot, and at the end of the episode Sonic has to leave him behind to escape. Sonic starts crying and is immediately surrounded by his friends--most pointedly, two gal-pals--who immediately console him and give him pity.

I wonder if Chris managed to pick up something from this.

It could be children's cartoons are gentle to little kids about stuff like this, but what Chris doesn't understand is that not every bad thing that happens to you deserves to be pitied. Especially if you bring it on yourself.

 

[Glitter]

^^^For that reason, I pity his situation with his mother. How can you escape your cycle of self-destruction when a person who is supposed to love you is keeping you trapped?

It's the sole reason I still feel bad for him. She's basically subjecting her incompetent offspring to emotional abuse because she has no one at all to hold onto anymore, and he's too broken to recognize it beyond "sigh, I wish I didn't have to play video games in front of my mom."

 

[MrTroll]

This thread made me suddenly recall Sonic the Hedgehog on Saturday mornings when I was a kid. One episode, in particular, struck me a poignant to this thread. Here's a clip from the scene in question:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHpxCU3ib30

For those of you who don't want to click on it, basically Sonic the Hedgehog finds his uncle, who was turned into a robot, and at the end of the episode Sonic has to leave him behind to escape. Sonic starts crying and is immediately surrounded by his friends--most pointedly, two gal-pals--who immediately console him and give him pity.

I wonder if Chris managed to pick up something from this.

All he probably took from it was how awesome it would be to have an uncle turned into a robot.

 

[DangDirtyTrolls]

^^^For that reason, I pity his situation with his mother. How can you escape your cycle of self-destruction when a person who is supposed to love you is keeping you trapped?

It's the sole reason I still feel bad for him. She's basically subjecting her incompetent offspring to emotional abuse because she has no one at all to hold onto anymore, and he's too broken to recognize it beyond "sigh, I wish I didn't have to play video games in front of my mom."

Barb is a shitty parent plain and simple, there's no doubt about that

 

[SPARKLETWAT]

^^^For that reason, I pity his situation with his mother. How can you escape your cycle of self-destruction when a person who is supposed to love you is keeping you trapped?

It's the sole reason I still feel bad for him. She's basically subjecting her incompetent offspring to emotional abuse because she has no one at all to hold onto anymore, and he's too broken to recognize it beyond "sigh, I wish I didn't have to play video games in front of my mom."

I don't. If Chris has enough smarts to walk out he'd do it. Everything is self imposed and reinforced by his lump of a mom.

I might have some pity if she had a legit reason to sit around all day, ie paralyzed or something.

I guess I'm jaded after babysitting drunks and druggies in my ER. (I'm a nurse.) They ruin their own lives with dope and wonder why they can't clean up. They don't TRY to clean up. They expect big nurse Wanda to take care of them and wipe their ass and clean up their puke so they can go out and shitface themselves again. This is Chris, but it's first world problems and he's expecting handouts.

You hand him a shovel to clean up that shithole he calls a house, and he'd expect YOU to shovel.

I bet you he'd starve to death surrounded by raw food because none of it goes into a microwave.

 

[Henry Bemis]

Anyone notice that the only way Chris ever tries to get any sort of attention or feedback from people is by trying to get them to feel sorry for him? Is that seriously the only way he knows how to get any kind of feedback?

If Chris is to be believed, his initial autism diagnosis was dire, as in nobody thought he would be able to read or write or have motor skills or anything. If we are to use common sense, the diagnosis was not perilous, but Bob 'n' Barb had checked out as soon as the doctor said "autism," 'cause they were having a pity party and everyone was invited.

The point being, Chris was never raised to believe he had anything to offer to anyone. If anything, Bob 'n' Barb were supposed to be sucking up all the goodwill as the beleaguered parents of a special-needs child (if only pesky educators and parents wouldn't keep complaining about them about actually meeting Chris's needs).

Where Chris runs into trouble on this front, however, is that pity does not always equal sympathy. Or, to rephrase, "OK, I'll go easy on you, 'cause you obviously got some issues" does not immediately turn into "I actually appreciate you on a significant level."

 

[DangDirtyTrolls]

I guess I'm jaded after babysitting drunks and druggies in my ER. (I'm a nurse.) They ruin their own lives with dope and wonder why they can't clean up. They don't TRY to clean up. They expect big nurse Wanda to take care of them and wipe their ass and clean up their puke so they can go out and shitface themselves again. This is Chris, but it's first world problems and he's expecting handouts.

There is a huge difference between having a dependency to a chemically addictive narcotic and just being too far too fucking lazy to do anything.

 

[Glitter]

I guess I'm jaded after babysitting drunks and druggies in my ER. (I'm a nurse.) They ruin their own lives with dope and wonder why they can't clean up. They don't TRY to clean up. They expect big nurse Wanda to take care of them and wipe their ass and clean up their puke so they can go out and shitface themselves again. This is Chris, but it's first world problems and he's expecting handouts.

There is a huge difference between having a dependency to a chemically addictive narcotic and just being too far too fucking lazy to do anything.

I'm only saying I pity him in that situation because I've been there. It's rough. I didn't realize how screwed up my life was until I was older, and since Kaka is living in a sort of suspended adolescence, well...

 

[The Nameless One]

What I gather from the picture in the OP is that Chris wants people to see him as a romanticized tragic figure with a tortured soul, but instead he just comes across as a miserable troglodyte. Perhaps the biggest reason for this is that all of the bad things that he has incessantly whined about are dumb shit that he deserved, like being kicked out of Wal-Mart or scolded by his college dean because he's too inept to put in minimal effort in his search for a girlfriend. He doesn't realize that we aren't attracted to people out of pity; we are attracted to likable people despite the fact that they are depressed or upset, and we want to help them. It's impossible to feel genuinely sorry for Chris because he's unwilling to try to improve himself and has no redeeming qualities whatsoever.