Chris Chan Documentary 2 (Sequel)

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Do you want the story to be told in sagas in the sequel?

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Sigyn said:
@spylobster I'm actually inclined to agree here, dude. I know I said I'd be willing to do music but I think I'mma have to back out. You're setting yourself up to be halal.
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Loke said:
Bro, plz stahp. Seriously man, this whole sequel thing is coming from a bad place. Move the hell on.
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I don't know what I am doing wrong. But I wouldn't say ignorance is freedom to do whatever you want so please explain. And I am calling myself ignorant in that last sentence btw.
 
spylobster said:
I don't know what I am doing wrong. But I wouldn't say ignorance is freedom to do whatever you want so please explain. And I am calling myself ignorant in that last sentence btw.
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A) Most significantly, better men than you have tried and failed to get through to Chris. Wishing he would acknowledge you is silly, and trying to follow up on your positive feedback to your documentary is coming off to me as a sort of delusion of grandeur, perhaps an inflated sense of purporse. People involved in the sagas have expressed little interest in your project, like @Marvin and @Alec Benson Leary, and attempting to contact Chris is just laughable. He'll either write you off as a troll or spot you on these forums, and then what?
B) I enjoyed your documentary for what it was, especially considering your youth and status as a high school student. It showed a level of understanding and mastery that a lot of people your age are lacking. However, it was not the brilliant star that your destiny was to grow from. It seems silly for the same reason Lucas' edits to the original trilogy were, or the entirety of Zarathustra after the tightrope sequence: the important bits had been said, the meat was there, and all the rest can be ignored. I'm not personally interested in any sequel you may make, and wasn't going to say anything beyond my earlier advice, but you're crossing certain weenish lines, and sounding a bit like an egomaniac so...yeah, Loke out here.
 
Loke said:
A) Most significantly, better men than you have tried and failed to get through to Chris. Wishing he would acknowledge you is silly, and trying to follow up on your positive feedback to your documentary is coming off to me as a sort of delusion of grandeur, perhaps an inflated sense of purporse. People involved in the sagas have expressed little interest in your project, like @Marvin and @Alec Benson Leary, and attempting to contact Chris is just laughable. He'll either write you off as a troll or spot you on these forums, and then what?
B) I enjoyed your documentary for what it was, especially considering your youth and status as a high school student. It showed a level of understanding and mastery that a lot of people your age are lacking. However, it was not the brilliant star that your destiny was to grow from. It seems silly for the same reason Lucas' edits to the original trilogy were, or the entirety of Zarathustra after the tightrope sequence: the important bits had been said, the meat was there, and all the rest can be ignored. I'm not personally interested in any sequel you may make, and wasn't going to say anything beyond my earlier advice, but you're crossing certain weenish lines, and sounding a bit like an egomaniac so...yeah, Loke out here.
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I never said that christorical figures should ever care about the documentary, if they had a huge interest and wanted to do all the work I would still be a little iffy on it. The closest I have come to asking them was just hinting towards it. And they understandably don't give a shit.

I am not trying in any way to get to Chris. If I was obsessed or something I would spam him emails, send letters, call his house constantly. But as a matter of fact as much as I would like Chris to contact me it wouldn't be a professional "this is for the good of man, and I am chosen by god!" I want him to contact me mostly because I am a giddy school girl and I would cream my panties if I were ever to at least get to talk to Chris not out of some weird want for him but because it would be such a different experience. After making all this content about a person who only seems like a character in a book it would be surreal.

And the reason for making a sequel is like I stated earlier, I am happy with the movie but seeing what it can be kills me inside. I am not happy with mediocrity as of now, even though it was at my standard when I posted it my bar has raised ever so much and to snip the root right now would be a dishonesty to myself. As much as I care about what people will think of it I am going to have to be selfish and put myself front in line because I want this to be my standard now not some limit that people have set on my project.

TLDR; blah blah internet drama on forums what a shock.
 
spylobster said:
I never said that christorical figures should ever care about the documentary, if they had a huge interest and wanted to do all the work I would still be a little iffy on it. The closest I have come to asking them was just hinting towards it. And they understandably don't give a shit.

I am not trying in any way to get to Chris. If I was obsessed or something I would spam him emails, send letters, call his house constantly. But as a matter of fact as much as I would like Chris to contact me it wouldn't be a professional "this is for the good of man, and I am chosen by god!" I want him to contact me mostly because I am a giddy school girl and I would cream my panties if I were ever to at least get to talk to Chris not out of some weird want for him but because it would be such a different experience. After making all this content about a person who only seems like a character in a book it would be surreal.

And the reason for making a sequel is like I stated earlier, I am happy with the movie but seeing what it can be kills me inside. I am not happy with mediocrity as of now, even though it was at my standard when I posted it my bar has raised ever so much and to snip the root right now would be a dishonesty to myself. As much as I care about what people will think of it I am going to have to be selfish and put myself front in line because I want this to be my standard now not some limit that people have set on my project.

TLDR; blah blah internet drama on forums what a shock.
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I'm not going to post anything further, other than I hope you have fun. If you finish it, I'll probably watch it, and perhaps I'll eat my words, but I'm clearly not getting through to you.
 
Loke said:
A) Most significantly, better men than you have tried and failed to get through to Chris. Wishing he would acknowledge you is silly, and trying to follow up on your positive feedback to your documentary is coming off to me as a sort of delusion of grandeur, perhaps an inflated sense of purporse. People involved in the sagas have expressed little interest in your project, like @@Marvin and @@Alec Benson Leary, and attempting to contact Chris is just laughable. He'll either write you off as a troll or spot you on these forums, and then what?
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He sent Chris ONE Facebook message. He's trying to get an interview for the second documentary and all you want to tell him is "you'll fail so don't bother". Even if its only a 1% chance of Chris responding, it's still worth the effort. The people who paid Chris to do the album artwork succeeded in contacting him didn't they? It's not like Spylobster is trying to troll Chris either, so I don't understand why this gets so much hate.
 
Catastrophic said:
He sent Chris ONE Facebook message. He's trying to get an interview for the second documentary and all you want to tell him is "you'll fail so don't bother". Even if its only a 1% chance of Chris responding, it's still worth the effort. The people who paid Chris to do the album artwork succeeded in contacting him didn't they? It's not like Spylobster is trying to troll Chris either, so I don't understand why this gets so much hate.
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Because... it's a dumb idea?
 
Marvin said:
Because... it's a dumb idea?
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Catastrophic said:
He sent Chris ONE Facebook message. He's trying to get an interview for the second documentary and all you want to tell him is "you'll fail so don't bother". Even if its only a 1% chance of Chris responding, it's still worth the effort. The people who paid Chris to do the album artwork succeeded in contacting him didn't they? It's not like Spylobster is trying to troll Chris either, so I don't understand why this gets so much hate.
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Interview no, but I will admit I took my 1 shot wonder at CWC, at least trying to get a response from Chris. Anything past this would be pointless and boring. And a little obsessive.
 
Marvin said:
Because... it's a dumb idea?
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It's possible that Chris wants to give his personal view point on a documentary about him. His ego is certainty big enough to care. At the very least, Spylobster is being considerate enough to offer Chris the opportunity to give his opinions on what should be revised or added. If someone made a documentary about me and didn't even afford me the opportunity to change anything or give my own perspective, I'd be a little upset.

spylobster said:
Interview no, but I will admit I took my 1 shot wonder at CWC, at least trying to get a response from Chris. Anything past this would be pointless and boring. And a little obsessive.
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I agree, attempting to contact him once is enough. Either he's interested or hes not.
 
spylobster said:
As much as I care about what people will think of it I am going to have to be selfish and put myself front in line because I want this to be my standard now not some limit that people have set on my project
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You are over thinking this way too much and acting like this actually matters. Move the fuck on to whatever's next.
 
Tubular Monkey said:
Your wing men are gone and you're losing altitude. Bail out. Bail. Out.
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Sorry for free content. At the start I thought this was an open community. I was afraid I was going to get shit on for even mentioning making the first one, but then after all the positive feedback it made me think that this place was different than most forums. Most forums being autistic drama factories. But already after doing one negative thing everyone turns against me. But then again I guess this is just making things worse by retaliating.
 
spylobster said:
Sorry for free content. At the start I thought this was an open community. I was afraid I was going to get shit on for even mentioning making the first one, but then after all the positive feedback it made me think that this place was different than most forums. Most forums being autistic drama factories. But already after doing one negative thing everyone turns against me. But then again I guess this is just making things worse by retaliating.
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Please stop. The reason people are so opposed to this is because it's saturated content. The idea of a documentary was already a cliche idea, but congratulations, you actually made one and people liked it. But to make another one so soon after the last gives people the impression you want our attention for the same thing. And now with messaging Chris where the concensus on Chris is that we're no longer integrated with him, but spectators - and you're bound to find trouble.

If you were to make different Chris-related content no-one would have a problem, if someone like Liquid Chris showed up and said "Hey, I'm rebooting the saga!", you can bet he'd be met with just as many nay-sayers as you're seeing. Your documentary wasn't bad, but you're not special, you're going to get the same backlash anyone else would get if they tried the same thing over and over.

Slow down, give yourself some breathing room, and listen to your audience. The audience wants different content. Give yourself some time, and if you still want to make Chris-related content, come back here with something new and believe me, people will be understanding of all this.
 
spylobster said:
Sorry for free content. At the start I thought this was an open community. I was afraid I was going to get shit on for even mentioning making the first one, but then after all the positive feedback it made me think that this place was different than most forums. Most forums being autistic drama factories. But already after doing one negative thing everyone turns against me. But then again I guess this is just making things worse by retaliating.
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Just don't take it so seriously. That's how things escalate.
 
Karnon said:
Please stop. The reason people are so opposed to this is because it's saturated content. The idea of a documentary was already a cliche idea, but congratulations, you actually made one and people liked it. But to make another one so soon after the last gives people the impression you want our attention for the same thing. And now with messaging Chris where the concensus on Chris is that we're no longer integrated with him, but spectators - and you're bound to find trouble.

If you were to make different Chris-related content no-one would have a problem, if someone like Liquid Chris showed up and said "Hey, I'm rebooting the saga!", you can bet he'd be met with just as many nay-sayers as you're seeing. Your documentary wasn't bad, but you're not special, you're going to get the same backlash anyone else would get if they tried the same thing over and over.

Slow down, give yourself some breathing room, and listen to your audience. The audience wants different content. Give yourself some time, and if you still want to make Chris-related content, come back here with something new and believe me, people will be understanding of all this.
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I am not producing it right away, I made this thread so people can compile they're ideas all into one. Right now everything is talk. And tbh all the hate started right as a christorian called it bullshit. Kind of like in Rome when the king gave thumbs up or down during gladiator fights I am just confused why people are shitting on me for wanting to try and better something.

Tubular Monkey said:
Just don't take it so seriously. That's how things escalate.
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You make a good point I am just really jaded how things turned night and day in such a short time.
 
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spylobster said:
I am not producing it right away, I made this thread so people can compile they're ideas all into one. Right now everything is talk. And tbh all the hate started right as a christorian called it bullshit. Kind of like in Rome when the king gave thumbs up or down during gladiator fights I am just confused why people are shitting on me for wanting to try and better something.
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Yeah, and it's all way too soon to do all that. Take some time off man, it looked like a lot of work. I was suspicious of you when you posted that 'Chris dream' stuff and I think others were too. What's wrong with just taking time off to collect ideas?
 
Karnon said:
Yeah, and it's all way too soon to do all that. Take some time off man, it looked like a lot of work. I was suspicious of you when you posted that 'Chris dream' stuff and I think others were too. What's wrong with just taking time off to collect ideas?
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I feel like I just ended a sports season, it was all fun and games but now that everything is over I don't know what to do with myself. But just like sports I dick around for a few months until a new thing happens. But yeah I am going to take time to collect ideas like you said, but I made this thread as not a I AM WORKING ON NEW ONE RIGHT AWAY, but it was just a collective pool so people can give they're thoughts and something I could look back on for guidance.
 
spylobster said:
I am not producing it right away, I made this thread so people can compile they're ideas all into one. Right now everything is talk. And tbh all the hate started right as a christorian called it bullshit. Kind of like in Rome when the king gave thumbs up or down during gladiator fights I am just confused why people are shitting on me for wanting to try and better something.
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I have no opinion on the documentary itself either way. I just find the manner in which prospective trolls approach Chris to be annoying as shit. And your message fit that stereotype pretty well. Hence my criticism.
 
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