Chris Chan Documentary

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Re: Our Pet Lolcow Documentary

bradsternum said:
Not true anymore, actually. You really only need a skeleton crew of two or three people who know what they're doing. At least, that's true of a lot of places I've worked. (Not to be a pretentious "hur dur ba herrrrrr internets professional.")

Anyway, I don't think a documentary would ever do Chris justice, and here's why: Chris is a new media social experiment. He would not exist as he does today if it weren't for Youtube, Facebook, Skype, and every other new communication platform he has used to reach out to the world. As such, an old media documentary wouldn't suit him, I don't think. The wiki is a perfect representation of his life.


if anything you can shoot on whatever format. don't worry about much audio other than nat sound and voiceover. but definitely have good post, especially editing (my forte).

wiki is the best representation of his existence, but documentary especially in an anthology format (almost reality series) would work in that media outlet.

but since you probably couldn't have said documentary feature chris chan himself (he'd be too paranoid of it being a troll scheme) i would suggest kind of a mock ken burns style documentary. with "expert christorians" as talking heads around classic chris footage.
 
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I think the only way Chris would believe it was real would be if you had some movie looking cameras. Because Chris filters everything through tv and since he's been on the news, to his mind, all real cameras look like those cameras.

I would also present him with a screener of pre-edited footage in a very positive light of maybe the first 3rd of the documentary, even then it would be a long shot.

I don't think you'd get many people involved with Chris to actually take part, but I would try my best to get some anyway, people who've known Chris IRL, like Mary Lee Walsh, people who have been involved in sagas like Liquid, to be honest I doubt they would take part, but you should at least try.

I'd definitely watch it, as long as it was evenly presented.
 
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Anna would definitely take part in a doco. I think Mimms and possibly a pastor from his church might too.

A bunch of his trolls would if you could guarantee the protection of their IRL identity.

If you can get Barb's trust she and Chris might appear together.

People who just want to be left alone by Chris and his trolls like MLW, Cole, Snider, Megan probably wouldn't.

All this is assuming you can prove you're a proper documentary maker with a funding.
 
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I have filmed concerts and a private video for a care centre, if your interested I can point you where you could view the second.

If people want to keep the anonymity that's fine as is sending a statement to be read.

The filming would be probably on hand held digital cameras, I can do most of the editing and production. There are probably 2 sequences that would require me to outsource somebody

I would hire a suite in a hotel in Cville and do most of the filming there.

The Documentary would probably be done as an arc on how he was affected by the "internet" some things could be omitted. If people are willing to give me any more info I'm quite happy to do listen.

One last thing I have grown up around people with mental illnesses, and Autism and honestly I'm not exactly sure what he has. I could possibly pay for a PS4 but only if he co operated.
I'm going to attempt to contact Cole .

One last thing I'm from the UK so I would probably go at it like Panorama if anybody has seen that.
 
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demiurgz said:
honestly I'm not exactly sure what he has.
autism

i (an uneducated dropout, mind) would say the most telling proof of his diagnosis is his speech delay. even if you think most of his problems came from his parents resisting all attempts by the educational system to get him proper treatment, the speech delay until well after he should have been forming sentences is a big red arrow pointing to something deeper going on

nothing to do with the thread's topic, just wanted to throw in my tuppence
 
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bradsternum said:
Dr. Cuddlebug said:
Surtur said:
Eh, not really, just a good cameraman.

It depends on how professional you want it to look. If it's a documentary you'd also need a good camera (Which runs you several thousand dollars), a good editor, a good sound guy, a boom guy, a cinematographer etc.

And that's just the minimum and it'd require a pretty big budget altogether if you wanted it to look good.

Not true anymore, actually. You really only need a skeleton crew of two or three people who know what they're doing. At least, that's true of a lot of places I've worked. (Not to be a pretentious "hur dur ba herrrrrr internets professional.")

At the very least you would need three people: the director/producer/host, the cameraman, and the sound guy. Yes, some people have managed to combine those positions even more into two or even one person (the British guy, I forgot his name, who did the doc on Biggie and Tupac is the only one I know of. He walks around with a boom in one hand, a camera in the other, and still manages to keep his wits about him for the other stuff).

bradsternum said:
Anyway, I don't think a documentary would ever do Chris justice, and here's why: Chris is a new media social experiment. He would not exist as he does today if it weren't for Youtube, Facebook, Skype, and every other new communication platform he has used to reach out to the world. As such, an old media documentary wouldn't suit him, I don't think. The wiki is a perfect representation of his life.

It would be easy to incorporate the videos, photos, and audio, but a lot of the content is also chats and e-mails, and so that would need to be narrated by someone.

The wiki is the best representation for his life, but that doesn't mean an abridged, or focused, documentary couldn't be worthwhile, if done right. Different formats, like adapting books into movies, etc.

bobcat_handler said:
Anna would definitely take part in a doco. I think Mimms and possibly a pastor from his church might too.

A bunch of his trolls would if you could guarantee the protection of their IRL identity.

I'm imagining lots of interviews done in silhouette, with maybe voice modulation, like when they interview people in witness protection. :lol:

demiurgz said:
I have filmed concerts and a private video for a care centre, if your interested I can point you where you could view the second.

If people want to keep the anonymity that's fine as is sending a statement to be read.

The filming would be probably on hand held digital cameras, I can do most of the editing and production. There are probably 2 sequences that would require me to outsource somebody

I would hire a suite in a hotel in Cville and do most of the filming there.

The Documentary would probably be done as an arc on how he was affected by the "internet" some things could be omitted. If people are willing to give me any more info I'm quite happy to do listen.

One last thing I have grown up around people with mental illnesses, and Autism and honestly I'm not exactly sure what he has. I could possibly pay for a PS4 but only if he co operated.
I'm going to attempt to contact Cole .

One last thing I'm from the UK so I would probably go at it like Panorama if anybody has seen that.

The response that you'll get from Chris people will change if you demonstrate you are serious about this project. People have said they are going to make a documentary, or write a book about him, before, and nothing ever came of it. But, best of luck. :)
 
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whispsonichu said:
I think the only way Chris would believe it was real would be if you had some movie looking cameras. Because Chris filters everything through tv and since he's been on the news, to his mind, all real cameras look like those cameras.
You'd need one of those hand-cranked newsreel cameras from the days of Red Skelton to convince him it's real.
 
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Kosher Dill said:
whispsonichu said:
I think the only way Chris would believe it was real would be if you had some movie looking cameras. Because Chris filters everything through tv and since he's been on the news, to his mind, all real cameras look like those cameras.
You'd need one of those hand-cranked newsreel cameras from the days of Red Skelton to convince him it's real.

LOL

BTW, I wonder if Chris knows Skelton isn't alive anymore?

redskelton.jpg
 
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Im big documentary fan . I would watch it for sure but i heavily doubt that Chris or anyone involved would give interview - Specially Chris .
 
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Well, if you are actually serious about this it may cost you money to actually fly from the UK to go interview these people. However, the point remains. Even if you are granted interviews with trolls and the Mormon whore, you will likely not glean new information. It will just be an expensive video version of the CWCki. Maybe if you talk to Cole and offer to buy his stupid auction if he talks about his brother. However, Cole wasn't there too long while Chris was growing up. I don't think you'll really get much for the effort you'll put into it.
 
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Holdek said:
Kosher Dill said:
whispsonichu said:
I think the only way Chris would believe it was real would be if you had some movie looking cameras. Because Chris filters everything through tv and since he's been on the news, to his mind, all real cameras look like those cameras.
You'd need one of those hand-cranked newsreel cameras from the days of Red Skelton to convince him it's real.

LOL

BTW, I wonder if Chris knows Skelton isn't alive anymore?

redskelton.jpg



chris also thought trolls were taking pictures of him with accordion cameras.
 
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CatParty said:
chris also thought trolls were taking pictures of him with accordion cameras.

Well, he at least admitted that Accordian Cameras (sic) are Old-Fashioned, so maybe he has seen some more modern camera equipment.

Though Chris also knows that Paying AirFare and HitchHiking Dangerously is exactly what trolls do, so the documentary makers may want to avoid doing that.
 
It wouldn't be a good documentary unless Chris willingly participated in it to tell his story. The last thing we need is some 20-some year old guy mixing Chris's youtube videos together with commentary and calling it a documentary. If you have previous documentary experience and started a Kickstarter project you might have a good chance to generate some money to pay Chris for his time as well as production costs. It would probably have to be a documentary about internut bullying that focuses on Chris.


You would also have to be very prepared with questions for Chris. If you half-assed it you would end up getting a lot of responses like:

"hmm, yes"
"hmm, no"
*sigh*

You'd have to guide him along, specifically asking him to tell his side of the story.

It'll never happen, but fun to think about.
 
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I would honestly pay to see this! Im not really that experienced with making movies, but if you need any help, lemme know!

Maybe you could fund this with a kickstarter or similar? If you got enough money to pay chris (and/or barb) a nice sum, im sure you could get him to talk about his experiences.
 
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Cashy_Type87 said:
Maybe you could fund this with a kickstarter or similar? If you got enough money to pay chris (and/or barb) a nice sum, im sure you could get him to talk about his experiences.

Yeah, though even before you go to Kickstart, you need to have a pretty solid plan about the project, otherwise there won't be any backers. Not "maybe we'll go to Charlottesville and get a hotel room to shoot in or something", but "We're 100% sure everyone we want to interview will be willing to be interviewed in C-ville from day A to day B, and we need to book rooms for X people in hotel Y, which will cost Z dollars."
 
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