Chris-chan's funeral

[Kosher Dill]

Re: Our Pet Lolcow's funeral

That's the beauty of it, he can't legally deny Sonichu to everyone, any more than he could demand 14BC to stay abandoned for all eternity after he passes. Someone will become Sonichu's new father no matter what; the only thing he can do is choose who it is.

 

[regularjohn]

Re: Our Pet Lolcow's funeral

its obvious to me that we need to get some one to get chris to make a will naming one of us sonichu's new legal guardian.
Then we might actually see some new pages coming out.

 

[QI 541]

Re: Our Pet Lolcow's funeral

I'm not even sure if Chris has the rights to Sonichu.

Nah, he does. In the United States, as soon as you put an (original) creation to paper, you have copyright on it. Despite what a lot of people think, Chris does have copyright on his Sonichu comics. They might be derivative works (in which case he'd still have copyright), but I'm not even sure that they are derivative works.

Edit: Er, I said paper, but I really should've said "fixed medium." That's what I meant.

I heard some rumors that when Chris relinquished control of Cwcpedia, it caused him to relinquish his rights to everything on there, including Sonichu. Any truth to these rumors?

 

[Marvin]

Re: Our Pet Lolcow's funeral

its obvious to me that we need to get some one to get chris to make a will naming one of us sonichu's new legal guardian.
Then we might actually see some new pages coming out.

Heh, well, we have a bunch of fans making Sonichu fan comics. They exist out there.

I'm not even sure if Chris has the rights to Sonichu.

Nah, he does. In the United States, as soon as you put an (original) creation to paper, you have copyright on it. Despite what a lot of people think, Chris does have copyright on his Sonichu comics. They might be derivative works (in which case he'd still have copyright), but I'm not even sure that they are derivative works.

Edit: Er, I said paper, but I really should've said "fixed medium." That's what I meant.

I heard some rumors that when Chris relinquished control of Cwcpedia, it caused him to relinquish his rights to everything on there, including Sonichu. Any truth to these rumors?

No, Chris still has copyright to the Sonichu comics.

 

[mlwalsh]

Re: Our Pet Lolcow's funeral

would chris end up in heaven or hell?

I can't see Chris-chan going to one of the hells, but I can definitely see him having to reincarnate in lower states (cockroaches, etc.) for several existences.

 

[cypocryphy]

Re: Our Pet Lolcow's funeral

If he keeps his current diet and lack of movement up (which he will) we only have to wait 10 to 15 years. Now, I'm not A-logging,I 'm just stating the obvious.

 

[Pikimon]

Re: Our Pet Lolcow's funeral

Chris will probably rot in his house until the bill collectors come...

 

[CatParty]

Re: Our Pet Lolcow's funeral

If he keeps his current diet and lack of movement up (which he will) we only have to wait 10 to 15 years. Now, I'm not A-logging,I 'm just stating the obvious.

No you are completely right. I also really feel that he may not make it too far north of 40. Especially when barb dies. I also don't want to sound too a-loggy, but I've held the opinion that once she goes he may not even live a year after.

 

[Luscinia Hafez]

Re: Our Pet Lolcow's funeral

Someone should at least buy the property, renovate it, and turn it into the Christian Weston Chandler Museum of Fail. Chris's legacy should be preserved for future generations...as a guide on how NOT to raise an autistic child.

 

[WWWWolf]

Re: Our Pet Lolcow's funeral

Nah, he does. In the United States, as soon as you put an (original) creation to paper, you have copyright on it. Despite what a lot of people think, Chris does have copyright on his Sonichu comics. They might be derivative works (in which case he'd still have copyright), but I'm not even sure that they are derivative works.

They're derivative works if they substantially borrow things from any other work, and Sonichu's case, they do. Yes, Chris has copyright on his original elements (story, actual artwork, etc), but it only covers material that he created. Distribution of copyrighted works would need permission from all copyright holders.

Basically, if Chris would want to be 100% unworried of any legal wrath from Sega and Nintendo, he'd have to remove the references to Sega's and Nintendo's properties. It'd be still his story, and his characters could remain reasonably recognisable (because *ahem* the characters hardly represent anything Sega and Nintendo did, narrative-wise). It would be doable, but I don't think he'd actually want to do that; he explicitly wanted a fusion of Sonic and Pikachu, and anything less isn't good enough.

 

[Marvin]

Re: Our Pet Lolcow's funeral

Nah, he does. In the United States, as soon as you put an (original) creation to paper, you have copyright on it. Despite what a lot of people think, Chris does have copyright on his Sonichu comics. They might be derivative works (in which case he'd still have copyright), but I'm not even sure that they are derivative works.

They're derivative works if they substantially borrow things from any other work, and Sonichu's case, they do. Yes, Chris has copyright on his original elements (story, actual artwork, etc), but it only covers material that he created. Distribution of copyrighted works would need permission from all copyright holders.

Huh? No, Chris only references a few characters by name. They appear briefly and almost all of the rest of the comics are original. And no, again, you have copyright on material you create, whether it's a derivative work or not. You can't copyright ideas, you only copyright specific works.

Basically, if Chris would want to be 100% unworried of any legal wrath from Sega and Nintendo, he'd have to remove the references to Sega's and Nintendo's properties. It'd be still his story, and his characters could remain reasonably recognisable (because *ahem* the characters hardly represent anything Sega and Nintendo did, narrative-wise). It would be doable, but I don't think he'd actually want to do that; he explicitly wanted a fusion of Sonic and Pikachu, and anything less isn't good enough.

Eh, I don't think there's much of a worry as it currently is.

 

[Watcher]

Re: Our Pet Lolcow's funeral

Isn't Copywrite just a legal term of who owns it legally? Like we all own Harry Potter books but Rowling has the final say on them.

In Chris's case he doesn't make money off his comics so no one really has any grounds to sue him. Unless it were specifically inflammatory right?

I could be wrong here, my knowledge of the law is mostly second hand.

 

[Marvin]

Re: Our Pet Lolcow's funeral

Isn't Copywrite just a legal term of who owns it legally? Like we all own Harry Potter books but Rowling has the final say on them.

More or less. (Well, aside from occasional exceptions)

In Chris's case he doesn't make money off his comics so no one really has any grounds to sue him. Unless it were specifically inflammatory right?

I could be wrong here, my knowledge of the law is mostly second hand.

Well, no, even if you don't make money off of a work, if someone infringes on your copyright, you can still sue them. Plus I think there are criminal copyright infringement charges you can get, although I think those are mostly for people who smuggle a few thousand dollars worth of stuff across the border, things like that.

 

[Kosher Dill]

Re: Our Pet Lolcow's funeral

More to the point: Chris can never legally publish Sonichu, and Nintendo/Sega would probably be within their rights to demand it be taken down off the internet if they really cared. But Chris still owns the copyright of the Sonichu art and words. If Nintendo and Sega went insane and decided to make their own authorized Sonichu, they couldn't just take CWC's comics and publish them.

 

[Marvin]

Re: Our Pet Lolcow's funeral

More to the point: Chris can never legally publish Sonichu, and Nintendo/Sega would probably be within their rights to demand it be taken down off the internet if they really cared. But Chris still owns the copyright of the Sonichu art and words. If Nintendo and Sega went insane and decided to make their own authorized Sonichu, they couldn't just take CWC's comics and publish them.

He could probably publish many or most of the later issues. Sonic and Pikachu briefly appear in the first one, if memory serves.

 

[BillRiley]

Re: Our Pet Lolcow's funeral

More to the point: Chris can never legally publish Sonichu, and Nintendo/Sega would probably be within their rights to demand it be taken down off the internet if they really cared. But Chris still owns the copyright of the Sonichu art and words. If Nintendo and Sega went insane and decided to make their own authorized Sonichu, they couldn't just take CWC's comics and publish them.

He could probably publish many or most of the later issues. Sonic and Pikachu briefly appear in the first one, if memory serves.

He could technically get into trouble with Monty Python Ltd (ripping off the Black Knight sketch from "Holy Grail") and whoever owns the copyright to that awful Ghostbusters cartoon (Filmation? Is that still around?) But in any case, I very seriously doubt any company is going to care about unpublished works created by a retarded manbaby.

 

[WWWWolf]

Re: Our Pet Lolcow's funeral

More to the point: Chris can never legally publish Sonichu, and Nintendo/Sega would probably be within their rights to demand it be taken down off the internet if they really cared. But Chris still owns the copyright of the Sonichu art and words. If Nintendo and Sega went insane and decided to make their own authorized Sonichu, they couldn't just take CWC's comics and publish them.

Yup, that's the basic gist of it.

But in any case, I very seriously doubt any company is going to care about unpublished works created by a retarded manbaby.

Yup. Copyright law is generally a little bit stupid about this, and strictly speaking Chris would have to get appropriate permissions - but none of the actual copyright holders give a damn. It's just not worth pursuing, financially, legally or from the point of view of game company/gamer community relations. So Sega, Nintendo and others are probably more into going after actual huge ripoffs instead of some inept scribblings that are not even making any money.

 

[2_CUTE_2_BOLT]

Re: Our Pet Lolcow's funeral

Someone should at least buy the property, renovate it, and turn it into the Christian Weston Chandler Museum of Fail. Chris's legacy should be preserved for future generations...as a guide on how NOT to raise an autistic child.

Kick starter!

 

[butt in trouble]

Re: Our Pet Lolcow's funeral

The tombstone would be donated by trolls and would read "Here lies Ian Brandon Anderson who stole the idea of Sonichu. He was also a raging Homo." The grave is frequently vandalized with Pickles.

 

[CatParty]

Re: Our Pet Lolcow's funeral

The tombstone would be donated by trolls and would read "Here lies Ian Brandon Anderson who stole the idea of Sonichu. He was also a raging Homo. JULAAAAY" The grave is frequently vandalized with Pickles.

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