Chris court appearance

[RodgerDodger]

DSP. Bob Chipman. Lindsay Ellis. I would say in the case of Ellis and Chipman, they're not autistic enough to get caught by the cops. DSP has been lucky.

Yaniv would seem a top contender. I had hopes for Wu. But wu seemingly lacks inspiration or originality. Just the same tired grift each day.

 

[LordOdin]

I’m sick of people saying that this is because of his ASD. No, he’s just a selfish, spoilt, sociopathic piece of shit. I work with autistic people, and they have the same amount of empathy as anyone else. What they have trouble with is reading social cues, and understanding that other people might feel/react differently to a situation than they do. This becomes a problem with nuanced situations where right or wrong is dependent on how the subject feels about it, but hitting someone with a car or raping an elderly woman are not nuanced situations. Anyone should be able to say “yeah, i wouldn't like to be pepper-sprayed, or hit by a car, or molested by a family member, so i guess i shouldn’t so that to someone else.” The fact that chris didn’t even consider the feelings of his victims has nothing to do with his ASD. He’s just a shitty person who’s never learned to consider anyone but himself, because he’s never had to. He’s always been coddled, and always gotten away with everything he’s done with relatively few consequences. He may also be a narc or a sociopath, but even that’s not an excuse. He knew enough to lie about his actions, which shows that he knew they were wrong, or at the very least, wouldn’t be accepted by other people.

No one is making excuses i don't say pity Chris necessarily my point is due to the ASD and the lack of picking up social cues. With children that have ASD the most common thing is to teach them "how would it make you feel" causing them to vieuw everything like that. Yes i'm aware you do it with normal children too but they learn at some point to read the other person and see what their actions do to others. Autistics don't see it so they have to cling to that and if you don't properly guide them they will turn out by lack of a better description a bit more selfish. I'm not saying Chris his behaviour is due to his autism i meant to imply Chris his behaviour is a result from Barb being a HORRIBLE parent as he required extra attention. Ofcourse his more extreme acts are not a part of this but at this point in his life Chris "learned" again by lack of a better word i "can get away with everything". The initial guy i responded too called Chris evil i merely meant to imply with better parents he had a chance to turn out relatively normal or rather functional.

 

[Mason Verger]

because the only way its not is for barb to eat an incest charge.

Yo… what if: Barb cops to incest charges and gets her own defense attorney, then that attorney builds their case around her mental incompetence and Chris as the aggressor.

 

[The handsome tard]

Well it happened chris was in fact on Tucker, had to say I called this.
Tucker talks about chris

Worlds are colliding

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

His ASD is not the reason he continued to act like a spoiled 10 year old brat. The environment he was raised in enabled that sort of behavior, and there was no way he was ever going to be able to learn right from wrong on his own. I don't want to say Chris is a lost cause, but day after day I find it harder to say he isn't.

My brother and I were spoiled brats, and we had significantly more than the Chandlers and still do, but I grew out of it. You would think that living a life of abject squalor and at times poverty would snap Chris out of it, but it has only emboldened him. I don't think he's acting like a spoiled brat like Paris Hilton. I think he's acting like an entitled narcissistic jerk. Chris is an actual megalomaniac.

 

[Eydallur]

A bit OT but this is fascinating. Is this a standardized test of some kind?

I could give you the full run down if you want but Jordan Peterson already does a good job of introducing you to the big five model.

2017 Personality 14: Introduction to Traits/Psychometrics/The Big 5

In this lecture, I begin discussing the development of modern trait theory. Psychologists, expert in measurement and statistics, discovered extraversion, neu...

www.youtube.com

If I ask if you work out regularly, what your cholesterol level is, how often you snack during the day, if you're comfortable in swimwear or what your weight is, is that five questions or one? An answer to either one is going to be a good predictor of your answer to any of the others.

In short, it was found that the answers people would give to questions on personal preference covaried across only five domains and also that intelligence is generally applicable and not particular to any domain of talent (at least not until you get up into the upper bound of what geniuses are capable of). What this means in practice is it's really fucking simple to figure out what sort of personality you have from just a few brief questions, like how being more sensitive to flies in a dining establishment is a strong indicator you're likely to be a republican. Intelligence is even simpler to gauge since it only varies across a single dimension. Basically just draw a complex, non-uniform figure and have someone copy it from memory after viewing it for a minute, the more accurate the copy and the faster the completion, the higher their intelligence.

A bit of an addendum to this:
Intelligence is just pattern recognition aka the ability to comprehend abstract concepts, often termed the "g" factor to describe general intelligence. Different tasks are more or less purely g-loaded. G-code which is the name of the programming language used to control CNC centers is purely g-loaded which makes me wonder how in god's name Chris got his CAD degree. Math tests too are purely g-loaded where he is known to have struggled.
Fun fact, any math test you've ever taken — if the scores were normalized at a hundred and the results corrected for age — can be thought of as nothing more than IQ tests.

 

[Goofy Logic]

I'm kind of shocked, after meeting Chris, that the appointed defense attorney, nor the judge at the bond hearing, asked for a § 19.2-169.1, "Raising question of competency to stand trial or plead; evaluation and determination of competency."

This was a preliminary hearing, and the defence attorney has indicated he would want some evaluations done.

Heilberg told the court he would be asking for evaluations of Chandler...

That might be a standard stalling tactic by the defence to get their ducks in a row.

 

[Criminal Stupidity]

Yo… what if: Barb cops to incest charges and gets her own defense attorney, then that attorney builds their case around her mental incompetence and Chris as the aggressor.

Don't defendants being individually tried for something they're mutually involved in do that all the time as a legitimate tactic? Shift the blame on each other constantly in their separate trials, and despite it mitigating the consequences in one trial it can't be used as evidence in the other? Rekieta at least has mentioned how this is a viable thing you can actually do to get lighter punishments for both parties despite it just sounding like they're screwing each other over.

 

[lolwut]

I’m sick of people saying that this is because of his ASD. No, he’s just a selfish, spoilt, sociopathic piece of shit. I work with autistic people, and they have the same amount of empathy as anyone else. What they have trouble with is reading social cues, and understanding that other people might feel/react differently to a situation than they do. This becomes a problem with nuanced situations where right or wrong is dependent on how the subject feels about it, but hitting someone with a car or raping an elderly woman are not nuanced situations. Anyone should be able to say “yeah, i wouldn't like to be pepper-sprayed, or hit by a car, or molested by a family member, so i guess i shouldn’t so that to someone else.” The fact that chris didn’t even consider the feelings of his victims has nothing to do with his ASD. He’s just a shitty person who’s never learned to consider anyone but himself, because he’s never had to. He’s always been coddled, and always gotten away with everything he’s done with relatively few consequences. He may also be a narc or a sociopath, but even that’s not an excuse. He knew enough to lie about his actions, which shows that he knew they were wrong, or at the very least, wouldn’t be accepted by other people.

Tell us about your Sonic OCs.

 

[Blonde Bomb]

His ASD is not the reason he continued to act like a spoiled 10 year old brat. The environment he was raised in enabled that sort of behavior, and there was no way he was ever going to be able to learn right from wrong on his own. I don't want to say Chris is a lost cause, but day after day I find it harder to say he isn't.

I'd say he's a lost cause. It takes so long to unlearn behavior, which is why you tend to teach kids things early, right from wrong, what's okay what's not okay. The longer you do the behavior, the longer it takes to unlearn it. And Chris is so deep in his own fantasy world (though I'm more inclined to call them delusions)....I hate to write anyone off as a lost cause, but Chris is at this point. He's lived more than half his life this way, a few years of therapy and some medication isn't going to fix it.

 

[Mason Verger]

Don't defendants being individually tried for something they're mutually involved in do that all the time as a legitimate tactic? Shift the blame on each other constantly in their separate trials, and despite it mitigating the consequences in one trial it can't be used as evidence in the other? Rekieta at least has mentioned how this is a viable thing you can actually do to get lighter punishments for both parties despite it just sounding like they're screwing each other over.

I guess the caveat in this case being the race to get their client declared “most incompetent”. That may have an affect on the other case? Barb the groomer v. Chris the Elder Raper.

 

[Not Prower]

So depending on how this goes does this mean that Chris could actually get a Wikipedia article?

 

[Criminal Stupidity]

I guess the caveat in this case being the race to get their client declared “most incompetent”. That may have an affect on the other case? Barb the groomer v. Chris the Elder Raper.

Barb the Groomer v. Chris the Coomer. The former takes the stand and stares vacantly into space, whilst the latter delivers an impassioned rant that he will comply with the wishes of the court only once he has been allowed to ensure the safety of his toys. The latest MATI really gives great insight into why Chris is so bothered about collecting his 'belongings' at the moment.

As an aside, I wonder how it would affect the prosecution's approach if they discover they can extract just about any kind of plea imaginable from Chris so long as they guarantee his toys will be protected.

 

[DeadwastePrime]

So depending on how this goes does this mean that Chris could actually get a Wikipedia article?

never, but the tranch will always have one

 

[King Kiwi]

I wouldn't put it past Chris to quote South Park and yell, "She was coming right at me". I'm just a bit upset that a mental insanity plea will absolve Chris of all wrong doing.

Well Chris would have to admit to being to being a flipping nut case and get tossed in the loony bin for the rest of his life.

Either way, it's going to be a very long time before Chris is allowed to use the internet again.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

I'd say he's a lost cause. It takes so long to unlearn behavior, which is why you tend to teach kids things early, right from wrong, what's okay what's not okay. The longer you do the behavior, the longer it takes to unlearn it. And Chris is so deep in his own fantasy world (though I'm more inclined to call them delusions)....I hate to write anyone off as a lost cause, but Chris is at this point. He's lived more than half his life this way, a few years of therapy and some medication isn't going to fix it.

Chris' parents thought the 'best' way was to 'mainstream' him. Having him take normal classes instead of individualized special ed classes in hopes of him learning better/faster. How wrong they were. I think it was when his dad enrolled him in college ( I still don't know if Chris had any inclination of going), that things went downhill. He was literally more interested in girls than his education, and ended up getting a degree in which he never used. That's when his dad just threw up his hands and enrolled him for disability benefits.

I wouldn't say Chris lived half his life since he's not even 50 yet, but yeah, why bother teaching someone who won't learn.

 

[Jester69]

being more sensitive to flies in a dining establishment is a strong indicator you're likely to be a republican.

White*

 

[Cool Dog]

I sometimes need to remind myself that Chris, all things considered, is pretty mainstream nowadays.
In my head I still subconsciously think of him as the local internet weirdo that nobody outside of a few select archiving sites would even care about

He's not mainstream, that a bunch of normalfags joined the meme hashtag on twitter for a couple days dont mean they know the whole story, which if they do they would be so disgusted they would probably have a lot to think about supporting troons, which is why troons are imploring normalfags to not go deeper into chris lore

Has anyone considered the possibility (given how some offenders think they can just claim insanity to get off the hook, unaware of how difficult it actually is) that the judge and those involved with Chris' case think he may be deliberately throwing his court tantrum, demanding his toys, etc etc to increase his chances of an insanity plea? I'm sure it wouldn't be the first time someone deliberately pretended to be absolutely bonkers in hopes of securing an insanity plea?
I'm not saying Chris is smart enough to do so (we all know he's not), I'm just saying has this possibility crossed anyone's minds?
I'm not a lawfag by any means, it's just something that could possibly be considered.
I suppose the mental evaluation would have some effect on that, anyhow.

(It's been a tad difficult to keep up with the thread, so apologies in advance if this point has ever been brought up and discussed already)

Its a possibility but chris is such an unironic piece of shit that he might've done that on purpose and not because a lawyer told him to

Might have the same effect regardless

 

[Wikipedia Scholar]

It's genuinely sad that he's still so delusional

Chris should have gotten real help years ago

that's what strikes me about Chris: he still holds onto this escapist fantasy world well into his adulthood, when most people outgrow this in late childhood or early adolescence.

Nah, he's just an arsehole.

I get it, almost everyone disagrees. I've said my piece, and I don't want to derail the thread by arguing. I will say that the latest saga is a new low, and different in character from the majority of his lolcow career.

I'd say he's a lost cause. It takes so long to unlearn behavior, which is why you tend to teach kids things early, right from wrong, what's okay what's not okay. The longer you do the behavior, the longer it takes to unlearn it. And Chris is so deep in his own fantasy world (though I'm more inclined to call them delusions)....I hate to write anyone off as a lost cause, but Chris is at this point. He's lived more than half his life this way, a few years of therapy and some medication isn't going to fix it.

true. I don't like to write anyone off either, but in my experience, people usually don't change that much -- their basic character traits tend to be consistent. there may be exceptions, but that's the rule. as for Chris, he's so deep in his fantasies and bad habits that it would take a miracle to change his ways now, as you said.

So Chris is going to be behind bars for a month and a half. This is the longest he's ever been held after the Gamestop macing incident. He's been taken way out of his comfort zone; I can't imagine how Chris is doing without technology. I guess the only thing keeping him 'sane' would be access to paper and crayons. Watch him make whatever he draws as evidence against him. So far, he's quarantined, but man, if Chris ever runs afoul of any inmate, they will either beat him or rape him.

I'd assume Chris would be in adseg (administrative segregation) due to psychological issues, and because he's arguably high-profile. I agree that he'd be a very vulnerable target in general population, but that's why he'll end up avoiding it.

 

[A Grey Cat]

the times he grew up was not that big of an issue, it was his environments and his moronic parents. ,hes in the caboose of the genX crowd, and most of us who are also last of the genXers grew up and did not become a complete degenerate man-child mooching off the system and acting the fool irl and online like chis has.

Chris is very tail end gen xers teetering on the millienial label. Because of his birthyear being 1982.