Chris in 20 years?

[DangDirtyTrolls]

Re: A new chapter in Chris' life?

The fail consumes him. Every time you think he's hit rock bottom, he somehow finds a way to make things worse. This ride's one way all the way down.

 

[Scuttle456]

Re: A new chapter in Chris' life?

You know, it is not unreasonable that in a few years time, he could become a smooth talking successful businessman..

A businessman who makes a lot of money, enough to have a flock of gal pals follow him into the most exclusive clubs in Charlottesville. And later on they probably would fan him with giant palm leaves and feed him grapes..

 

[Some JERK]

Re: A new chapter in Chris' life?

It's like that story about the monkey who gets his arm trapped in a jar because it cant pull its hand out while it's closed around whatever's inside. All Chris has to do is let go of the shit he simply isnt going to get, and things would immediately start to improve for him. But he won't, because he really believes that he'll eventually pull it out someday. Meanwhile things around him continue to worsen. Chris isn't alone in his stubbornness though. Lots of people refuse to accept reality.the difference is that instead of a possible, but unlikely scenario, Chris has chosen to buy into a fantasy so far removed from reality that he has basically guaranteed himself a future of nothing but disappointment and failure.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Re: A new chapter in Chris' life?

It's like that story about the monkey who gets his arm trapped in a jar because it cant pull its hand out while it's closed around whatever's inside. All Chris has to do is let go of the shit he simply isnt going to get, and things would immediately start to improve for him.

That's a sort of Catch22 for OPL:
The thing he wants and refuses to let go is normalcy. Remember his "innocent, peaceful dream"? That's still what he wants. A normal life as an ordinary person, with all the things that entails, including a sweetheart and a daughter.

To be able to let go of that, Chris would have to accept that he isn't normal and has no chance of ever being normal.
Or, in other words: he'd have to be sane enough to realize that he was insane.

Chris isn't alone in his stubbornness though. Lots of people refuse to accept reality.the difference is that instead of a possible, but unlikely scenario, Chris has chosen to buy into a fantasy so far removed from reality that he has basically guaranteed himself a future of nothing but disappointment and failure.

As I said, I don't think it's stubbornness, I think it's a logical conundrum.
Also, his retreat into a fantasy world where unlikely things will eventually happen is a sort of defense mechanism:
the real world has simply become too horrible for him. He can't face it without the constant hope of his terrible surroundings getting better again.
To him, his life has become a living hell without him doing anything wrong. Now he's convinced that life will become super cool again without him doing anything.

 

[Some JERK]

Re: A new chapter in Chris' life?

i think the thing he refuses to let go of is the idea that he's flawless and blameless for his situation, and that he deserves everything he ever wanted without having to do anything to earn it. That and the idea that he hasn't gotten what he deserves due to outside forces working against him, and he would get everything he's entitled to if those forces would just go away.

In short, nothing is his fault. Ever. It's Mimms, or Megan, or Mike Snyder, or the CWCki or everyone on this forum, or the Greene County School Board, or his old babysitter, or his elemetary school principal, or Mary Lee Walsh, or the Jerkops at the mall, or...

He wants his sweetheart and his daughter and for the trolls to go away without doing a thing to make any of it happen. It should just happen. Because Chris is special.

On that note i've always been really fascinated by Chris's ego. Most egotistical people have something that actually feeds their ego. They're genuinely attractive or come from a privileged family or make lots of money or something. So what is actually feeding Chris's ego here? The asspatters? Pure stubbornness? Total delusion? Whatever it is, it's not anything based in reality, that's for sure.

 

[Satoru182]

Re: A new chapter in Chris' life?

On that note i've always been really fascinated by Chris's ego. Most egotistical people have something that actually feeds their ego. They're genuinely attractive or come from a privileged family or make lots of money or something. So what is actually feeding Chris's ego here? The asspatters? Pure stubbornness? Total delusion? Whatever it is, it's not anything based in reality, that's for sure.

A life of coddling and autism.

 

[LordCustos3]

Re: A new chapter in Chris' life?

You know, it is not unreasonable that in a few years time, he could become a smooth talking successful businessman..

A businessman who makes a lot of money, enough to have a flock of gal pals follow him into the most exclusive clubs in Charlottesville. And later on they probably would fan him with giant palm leaves and feed him grapes..

....aaaand then his paranoid meemaw wakes him from crashintoSlumberland so he can get her more Tinactin for her butt-holes.

Yeah, guys. Short of him being murdered, he won't be dead. You've been indoctrinated into the cult of Health Obsession.
I knew a guy, for example, who was in his mid forties. Health obsessed. Fit, built, positive, exercise freak. Always happy. Always eating
good food. And then POW - Dead. Heart gave out. A random turn of events.

Meanwhile, this other man I know is a cynical fat asshole. He lives on a steady diet of Fox News and doughnuts. And guess what? He just turned 83. Hallelujah.

Because only the good die young, but evil can sustain itself by cussedness.

Case in point:
John F. Kennedy, dead at 46
Ted Kennedy, dead at 77

Jesus, dead at 33...ish.
Billy Graham, dead at 95

Its almost enough to make me believe in vampirism.

Nah, More Like THIS!

http://www.sonichu.com/w/images/2/26/DecayOfManChild.jpg

Nah, More like THIS!




....oh, wait....thats what he looks like right now.

 

[Meowzers]

in all honesty i can picture him living in a home for disabled adults. i'm curious as to whether barb has a plan for him or if she'll just leave him to the wolves when she dies. if she doesn't, then i'm certain someone would find him in the hoard after not paying bills or whatever and he'll be sent off. it could be a good thing for him, i think? he'd be on a schedule, be surrounded by people to tend to him and teach him how to be an adult, and would actively be getting treatment. he's more independent and able than a lot of people in those homes and may be given significant freedom to do as he pleases outside of the home as long as he accepts the treatment.

 

[Marvin]

in all honesty i can picture him living in a home for disabled adults. i'm curious as to whether barb has a plan for him or if she'll just leave him to the wolves when she dies. if she doesn't, then i'm certain someone would find him in the hoard after not paying bills or whatever and he'll be sent off. it could be a good thing for him, i think? he'd be on a schedule, be surrounded by people to tend to him and teach him how to be an adult, and would actively be getting treatment. he's more independent and able than a lot of people in those homes and may be given significant freedom to do as he pleases outside of the home as long as he accepts the treatment.

He'd have trouble with the mortgage pretty quickly, at the very least.

But yeah, Chris is kinda facing the reality of the world nowadays. He's realizing that he's not normal and his life sucks and all that jazz. But as Some JERK said, he's still maintaining that none of that stuff was his fault and he spends all his time hating his enemies (like Megan) for putting him in the situation that he's in.

 

[Smokedaddy]

In what year did they move to Ruckersville? If it's been 30 years, the first mortgage is paid off. If Bob was the sole borrower, mortgage insurance would have paid the outstanding balance when he died.

The only ways I can think of that there'd be an extant mortgage are:

• They took out a second in Barb's name, or both Barb & Bob, which is still in place. (It's unusual for a second to run longer than the first, but it can be done.)
• Barbara was on the first as a co-borrower (and there is something still owing on the first, i.e. it hasn't been 30 years).

Good Marvin seems to have info on an existing loan and He Knows Whereof He Speaks™, so I'm not claiming there isn't one, just that the circumstances seem unusual 'cause the average scenario would have the note paid off by now.

If CWC does fall into foreclosure, it's not an automatic out-of-the-house-by-Thursday kind of thing. It's common for the foreclosure / eviction process to take a couple of years, during which something can usually be arranged. The bank has precisely zero interest in owning the property, they just want money. I think it's reasonable to assume that Rocky or someone would catch a whiff of what's going on and intervene before OPL got tossed on the street.

On a side note: if you run out the numbers, you'll find end up paying far less in total for a 15-year loan vs. the usual 30 years. (As in waaaay less.) The monthly payments are only slightly higher, and you start taking chunks out of the principal sooner. Trust me on this when you young'uns get around to buying your own houses -- check into a 15-year fixed rate loan instead of the default 30 years. If I'd kept my second house to the full term, I would have saved about $100,000 on a $300,000 mortgage.

 

[Tubular Monkey]

I think it's reasonable to assume that Rocky or someone would catch a whiff of what's going on and intervene before OPL got tossed on the street.

The minute anything major happens to Chris, it will be, "ROCKAYYYYYYYYYY ROCKAYYYYYYYYYY! HELP ME! I DESERVE IT! HELP ME!" And she will. The parasite is adept at finding hosts.

 

[Chairman Meow]

The only ways I can think of that there'd be an extant mortgage are:

• They took out a second in Barb's name, or both Barb & Bob, which is still in place. (It's unusual for a second to run longer than the first, but it can be done.)
• Barbara was on the first as a co-borrower (and there is something still owing on the first, i.e. it hasn't been 30 years).

Good Marvin seems to have info on an existing loan and He Knows Whereof He Speaks™, so I'm not claiming there isn't one, just that the circumstances seem unusual 'cause the average scenario would have the note paid off by now.

Never underestimate the power of second-mortgage or home equity loan stupidity, especially considering who we're dealing with. I know someone who recently bought a house in an area where the real-estate bubble blew up and popped especially hard. The place had been built new in 1996 for ~$190,000 - the owners were selling to avoid foreclosure because, after almost 20 years of ownership, they now owed $350,000 on the same house.

On a side note: if you run out the numbers, you'll find end up paying far less in total for a 15-year loan vs. the usual 30 years. (As in waaaay less.) The monthly payments are only slightly higher, and you start taking chunks out of the principal sooner. Trust me on this when you young'uns get around to buying your own houses -- check into a 15-year fixed rate loan instead of the default 30 years. If I'd kept my second house to the full term, I would have saved about $100,000 on a $300,000 mortgage.

Or you can get a standard 30-year loan and make extra payments that go directly toward knocking down the principle. That's what we did - basically the same thing, but if one of us lost a job or something then you aren't locked into the higher payments of a 15-year loan. But this is getting a bit off-topic, since no lender in their right mind would give Chris a mortgage anyway.

 

[Smokedaddy]

Never underestimate the power of second-mortgage or home equity loan stupidity, especially considering who we're dealing with. I know someone who recently bought a house in an area where the real-estate bubble blew up and popped especially hard. The place had been built new in 1996 for ~$190,000 - the owners were selling to avoid foreclosure because, after almost 20 years of ownership, they now owed $350,000 on the same house.

Oh yeah, it happened all over the place. (I know Casey Serin personally.) Using equity as an ATM was quite a fad, for a while. I just don't see Bob abusing seconds or continually rolling over large debts, mainly because of where & when he came from. I could well be wrong, though.

Or you can get a standard 30-year loan and make extra payments that go directly toward knocking down the principle. That's what we did - basically the same thing, but if one of us lost a job or something then you aren't locked into the higher payments of a 15-year loan. But this is getting a bit off-topic, since no lender in their right mind would give Chris a mortgage anyway.

That's a good strategy. It requires the self-discipline to make larger payments than strictly necessary, but the all extra goes toward the principal which would be a mighty pleasant feeling after a few years had passed. BTW, I wasn't talking about Chris getting a mortgage (no bank was that dumb even back in '05!) but rather about whether one originated by Barb and/or Bob still exists on the house.

 

[DangDirtyTrolls]

(I know Casey Serin personally.)

Really? Haha wow I used to follow that guy almost as religiously as Chris. Do you know what he's up to nowadays? Last I was paying attention people on Camp Idiot were counting down the days till each foreclosure meeting when it would get suddenly delayed for another few weeks then eventually nothing. I always wondered how he managed to get away with mortgage fraud on the scale he pulled it off, really puts Chris in perspective.

 

[Spaghetti_Eater]

He will be in good shape, have a hot Brittney Spears look-alike for a wife to have sess with every night, and a favorite daughter named Crystal and a son he keeps forgetting about. His wife will work, pay all the bills, cook, clean, and put out every single day and his children will do their chores and raise themselves in a hoard-free home whilst Chris plays the new guitar hero on his PS8 with his best buddy Sonichu, eating his McSalad and washing it down with a sugary tea so that he keeps his hot manly figure.

A horrible stench then wakes Chris up from his sticky dream. After bitching about it on the latest trendy social network, he gets off his ass and plugs in seven more Glade plug-ins in the room where his mother's corpse rests under a blanket, since it is too heavy to take outside and bury.

 

[maninthepicklesuit]

(I know Casey Serin personally.)

Really? Haha wow I used to follow that guy almost as religiously as Chris. Do you know what he's up to nowadays? Last I was paying attention people on Camp Idiot were counting down the days till each foreclosure meeting when it would get suddenly delayed for another few weeks then eventually nothing. I always wondered how he managed to get away with mortgage fraud on the scale he pulled it off, really puts Chris in perspective.

Hah, Casey is my second favorite lolcow. I think you can guess who my favorite lolcow is.

As far as lolcows go, Casey has the distinct advantage of being one that you can actually discuss in polite company. In terms of quality and quantity of content though, no one comes close to OPL.