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Napalmxxx2 said:
I was thinking that too for the longest time. Chris defending himself in court with no experience in the legal field makes me wish I could see this for myself, however him with a public defender could be just as worthwhile to see. Now the question at hand is "Will he plead guilty or will he plead not guilty?" I am fairly certain a plea bargain can be reached for this however that insinuates that he is willing to cooperate with said public defender.
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It's almost a month until Chris's court date. If he continues down the road he's currently on, a plea bargain may no longer be feasible.

CatParty said:
you mean @PCA ?
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No, but that's a good point. @PCA was lucky that he encountered Chris prior to his autistic vigilante phase.
 
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timtommy said:
If the lawyer is able to do that, wouldn't Chris get assigned another one? I didn't think the US court system is allowed to say "Sorry, you're an asshole, no legal counsel for you. I guess you will have to go directly to jail."
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The rule for withdrawing representation is RPC 1.16.

The relevant sections are probably these:

(4) the client insists upon taking action that the lawyer considers repugnant or with which the lawyer has a fundamental disagreement;

[. . .]

(6) the representation will result in an unreasonable financial burden on the lawyer or has been rendered unreasonably difficult by the client[.]
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(4) wouldn't apply to a public defender unless the conduct were somehow so reprehensible that the lawyer could not effectively represent the client. Chris might somehow trigger (6).

One is generally entitled to replacement counsel. This can end if, for instance, a defendant repeatedly fires his court-appointed counsel, causing mistrials or other delays, or otherwise abuses the process.

DangerousGas said:
By dint of his documented actions, he's doing everything he/she/whatever can to prove unreasonableness (excuse the godawful neologism there) as a defining character trait.
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The vast majority of people who end up clients of a public defender are unreasonable by the normal English definition of the term. If one could withdraw as counsel for that reason alone, few would qualify for court-appointed counsel.
 
If you cruise the CWCiki you can easily see the roots of this behavior. It was that he was able to channel this stuff into his drawing. However, he doesn't do comics anymore. Look at what he pulled at PVCC. It's a pattern throughout his life but instead of shouting curses and "looking mean" to a College Administrator he's taken to carrying something that he believes will actually work. I suspect he's going to get his ass kicked in the next month then get his ass handed to him by a very unsympathetic judge.

He's also becoming more and more unhinged. I honestly believe he's developing a legit mental illness and what we've seen is a man in the last five years who has continued a descent into madness. His Facebook posts are becoming less and less comprehensible, he's threatening to pepper spray people for really no reason. He's lost his fucking mind over this stupid fucking Sanic crap. Everything about him screams mentally unhinged person to be avoided at all costs.
 
serdog said:
also looking that the offense of release of a gas if Chris sprayed himself in Wal-mart he could be get another charge
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Possibly: the Va. statute doesn't seem to require that the person harmed by the release be "another", but I kinda doubt they'll charge him for that if they aren't hitting him for the trespasses already.

A-№1 said:
Too true. Also, to be honest, there are people out there who could really use what little help is available much more than Chris.
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This, a thousand times. Chris does not need inpatient psych hospitalization. It's unbelievable how expensive that sort of care is, and there's no way in hell he meets the guidelines. Maybe, just maybe, he's creeping up on the threshold for what Californians know as a 5150 hold (and Nevadans know as a Legal 2000 hold), but not knowing Virginia law that well, I'm really not sure.

Absinthe said:
I think he sees the pepper spray as something of an equaliser in these jerkop/manajerk encounters.
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As the saying goes, "God made men, but Sam Colt made them equal." Or, perhaps, "GodBear made Christian, but Allan Lee Litman made him man's equal."

DangerousGas said:
Really? I'm not up on how US law works, but I was under the impression that even a court-appointed defense lawyer could back out of defending an unreasonable client.
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It's got to be pretty extreme, as has been said elsewhere. And defense attorneys are likely going to be held to a higher standard (and public defenders even higher still) because of how seriously damaging a midstream change of counsel can be.

timtommy said:
If the lawyer is able to do that, wouldn't Chris get assigned another one? I didn't think the US court system is allowed to say "Sorry, you're an asshole, no legal counsel for you. I guess you will have to go directly to jail."
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Yep, he'd get a new one. Or if nobody else was available, it's possible that the PD would be compelled to represent him. This would never be a problem in Charlottesville, Va., but might be in the truly inaccessible backwoods, or in the unlikely situation that all lawyers in a region have uniformly refused to represent a particular client.
 
drmccoy said:
If you cruise the CWCiki you can easily see the roots of this behavior. It was that he was able to channel this stuff into his drawing. However, he doesn't do comics anymore. Look at what he pulled at PVCC. It's a pattern throughout his life but instead of shouting curses and "looking mean" to a College Administrator he's taken to carrying something that he believes will actually work. I suspect he's going to get his ass kicked in the next month then get his ass handed to him by a very unsympathetic judge.

He's also becoming more and more unhinged. I honestly believe he's developing a legit mental illness and what we've seen is a man in the last five years who has continued a descent into madness. His Facebook posts are becoming less and less comprehensible, he's threatening to pepper spray people for really no reason. He's lost his fucking mind over this stupid fucking Sanic crap. Everything about him screams mentally unhinged person to be avoided at all costs.
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You're right. When Chris hurled a Curse-ye ha-me-ha at Mary Lee Walsh, he believed that it actually had the ability to harm her (and could thus be viewed as a kind of weapon, at least in his mind). Imagine if Chris was in his pepper spray phase back then.
 
I'm honestly surprised we haven't got a slew of new videos from Chris recently regarding these events. That is unless he's trying to keep a low profile from the police...
 
Ryebread said:
I'm honestly surprised we haven't got a slew of new videos from Chris recently regarding these events. That is unless he's trying to keep a low profile from the police...
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He's busy moving. No time for videos. Plus Facebook posts require less effort.
 
Fair enough. I don't really handle people all that well myself, and to be completely honest, I have no clue how in the hell those who defend the rights of others in a courtroom manage it (I operate CNC machines for a living - people aren't really my thing).

Re: the legal stuff, it's interesting to read about. I still maintain that this Chris' current descent into madness (nice turn of phrase, drmccoy) is proving to be increasingly awkward and uncomfortable to watch though. Not in a 'there but for the grace of God' kind of way, more a 'stubborn child throwing toys at a live landmine' sort of thing.
 
drmccoy said:
If you cruise the CWCiki you can easily see the roots of this behavior. It was that he was able to channel this stuff into his drawing.
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Pepper spray is as close to an anime energy blast as he could muster on short notice.
 
blackie toy said:
This, a thousand times. Chris does not need inpatient psych hospitalization. It's unbelievable how expensive that sort of care is, and there's no way in hell he meets the guidelines. Maybe, just maybe, he's creeping up on the threshold for what Californians know as a 5150 hold (and Nevadans know as a Legal 2000 hold), but not knowing Virginia law that well, I'm really not sure.
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Found this. I highly doubt Chris meets the criteria for an involuntary psychiatric hold:
  • the person has a mental illness and there is a substantial likelihood that, as a result of mental illness, the person will, in the near future, (1) cause serious physical harm to himself or others as evidenced by recent behavior causing, attempting, or threatening harm and other relevant information, if any
  • the person has a mental illness and there is a substantial likelihood that, as a result of mental illness, the person will, in the near future, (2) suffer serious harm due to his lack of capacity to protect himself from harm or to provide for his basic human needs
"Imminent danger" was found to have too much variability throughout Virginia due to vagueness. The new standard is more specific in that substantial likelihood is more clear. However, to not limit potential detainee's freedoms too much it is characterized by the time limit of near future. "Recent acts" is legally established to require more than a mere recitation of past events.
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He's not stabbing people, only spraying them. I'm not pretending that macing someone isn't a violent act, but it's not considered "serious physical harm."
 
Homely Wilson said:
He gets extremely stressed out by confrontational situations (due to autism) and he thinks the pepper spray is an acceptable way to get people to back off so he can escape the situation.
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Ruckersville News Report: "A local 73-yr-old woman was taken to the hospital emergency room this morning from an apparent pepper spraying incident at her home, resulting from a family disagreement of moving big heavy boxes."
 
Juggalo Jesus said:
I like how he says Sega will hear about the Gamestop incident, like they really give a crap.

"Hey fellas! Some guy in Virginia is vandalizing displays and assaulting employees, all over Sonic! We gotta shut this down!"
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I'm sure there are a couple employees who follow this. If they work for the company that created Sonic, at some point one of them would have discovered this or had it sent to them over the internet. We already know they're aware Sonichu exists.
 
Eventually, someone somewhere will be Polite to Chris (like say Hello or approach him like they would anyone) in the wrong place at the wrong time, he'll Panic thinking they are a Troll/Jerkop/Sega or etc and Spray them right in the Eyes/Mouth.

Of course it'll be their fault for "Startling" him.
 
Main Character said:
And more effective than his curses.
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Quite possibly the only thing he could threaten anyone with that could be seen as such. Surprised though that he's not considered an immediate threat given his track record for threatening people especially over various transgressions. True most of them if not all of them are kind of in vain but a threat's a threat and I am fairly certain that if anyone else did it they would get a lovely visit from their local boys in blue.
 
The best part about all of this is that, since he views his behavior as the fault of others, Chris is unlikely to change it.

Hopefully this will lead to a fitting finale to his life as a lolcow. Seriously, it has to end somehow. He can't go on like this forever, and he's unlikely to ever change or get better.

The best that can be hoped for is a hilarious, and not anticlimactic, ending.
 
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