Chris Rock presents..... SAW?

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Even though this was obviously filmed before the Floyd shooting, this really was Black Lives Matter filming a Saw movie. I'm not even really joking.

Every single person caught in a trap in this movie was a corrupt cop that framed (or in one case murdered) innocent people. There were no standard criminals.

Chris Rock's character was playing the only "decent" cop on the entire force, and he was met with derision because he turned in his partner 9 years ago for shooting an innocent man. Every other cop on the force hates him. It was kind of like American Gangster when Russell Crowe's character turns in the money he and his partner found and everyone becomes suscipious of him, except Rock's partner straight up murdered a guy in cold blood and everyone's still mad that Rock snitched on him.

The tone was severe whiplash. For the first half, some of it felt like Bad Boyz II with a Saw trap every 15 minutes. Even with gangsta rap. Then it just became a standard cop thriller from there.

The "twist" was obvious a mile away. One because "the new guy" is always the killer in these movies, and two because the new guy and the innocent guy that the cop killed for saying he would testify about another dirty cop were the only two Italian/Arab/brown people in the entire movie. So strangely enough, the race of the characters gave it away.

The traps were just brutal. Some of them didn't even have any leeway, like if there was a split second of hesitation the person would fail. They were also some of the most brutal traps in the series; one person would have had to sever their spinal cord to escape "you can't walk away either way, but you can survive if you pass."

I can't say it was "bad", but it was all over the place. Probably something you catch on Netflix once out of curiosity and then never think about again. I liked that Chris Rock tried to do something new at least, but it was too heavy-handed and the tone wasn't right. 4/10.

Titos said:
Don't know why they got Chris Rock for this shit, should have gotten either Darren Lynn-Bouseman or Leigh Whannel back since both were instrumental in the success of the franchise. Both probably have ideas for a reboot since they've both been away from the series for like a decade.
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Darren Lynn Bousman directed this movie, but I don't know how much say he got in it.
 
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Surprisingly enjoyed it, then again it was probably because I haven’t been to the cinema in bloody ages. Not the best Saw movie, but not the worst by any means (that was Final Chapter), IMO it was kinda middling, Jigsaw tier.
 
Tarnished Fraggle said:
Surprisingly enjoyed it, then again it was probably because I haven’t been to the cinema in bloody ages. Not the best Saw movie, but not the worst by any means (that was Final Chapter), IMO it was kinda middling, Jigsaw tier.
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Saw: The Final Chapter is a better Saw film than Jigsaw and Saw V. I would never put that faggot movie I wasted time to see in theaters (Jigsaw) over anything else because Jigsaw killed the Saw series with the continuity breaking.
 
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Salubrious said:
Even though this was obviously filmed before the Floyd shooting, this really was Black Lives Matter filming a Saw movie. I'm not even really joking.

Every single person caught in a trap in this movie was a corrupt cop that framed (or in one case murdered) innocent people. There were no standard criminals.

Chris Rock's character was playing the only "decent" cop on the entire force, and he was met with derision because he turned in his partner 9 years ago for shooting an innocent man. Every other cop on the force hates him. It was kind of like American Gangster when Russell Crowe's character turns in the money he and his partner found and everyone becomes suscipious of him, except Rock's partner straight up murdered a guy in cold blood and everyone's still mad that Rock snitched on him.

The tone was severe whiplash. For the first half, some of it felt like Bad Boyz II with a Saw trap every 15 minutes. Even with gangsta rap. Then it just became a standard cop thriller from there.

The "twist" was obvious a mile away. One because "the new guy" is always the killer in these movies, and two because the new guy and the innocent guy that the cop killed for saying he would testify about another dirty cop were the only two Italian/Arab/brown people in the entire movie. So strangely enough, the race of the characters gave it away.

The traps were just brutal. Some of them didn't even have any leeway, like if there was a split second of hesitation the person would fail. They were also some of the most brutal traps in the series; one person would have had to sever their spinal cord to escape "you can't walk away either way, but you can survive if you pass."

I can't say it was "bad", but it was all over the place. Probably something you catch on Netflix once out of curiosity and then never think about again. I liked that Chris Rock tried to do something new at least, but it was too heavy-handed and the tone wasn't right. 4/10.
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Went ahead and read your plot summary. Pretty trash like I imagined.

Also yea, just from that clip I've posted earlier I got the impression that the traps were impossible to escape from. Then there's Samuel Jackson being Samuel Jackson in a horror movie so I imagine it's rather bizarre.
 
Ahriman said:
Went ahead and read your plot summary. Pretty trash like I imagined.

Also yea, just from that clip I've posted earlier I got the impression that the traps were impossible to escape from. Then there's Samuel Jackson being Samuel Jackson in a horror movie so I imagine it's rather bizarre.
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Yeah, there was one trap earlier on that the guy literally died because the trap was too slow. Like, he had 90 seconds, he pressed on the button for like 87 of them, and still died.
 
I don't know if I wanna watch it. I remember enjoying the first 3 SAW movies, by the 4th and 5th I saw a big downhill in the story, and didn't bother with the rest. But this one makes me morbidly curious.
 
I'm watching it. Not a huge Saw fan. The first movie is good. The sequels are nonsense but parts 6 and 7 were pretty entertaining. I shut off Jigsaw about 5 minutes in because it was so terrible.

Chris Rock is HORRIBLY miscast here. I like Chris Rock but he doesn't work as a hard edged cop in this. No Tobin Bell in any capacity which is a big downside. Just resurrect him as a zombie already like Jason. Gore was okay but it's another boring police procedural. More patented Saw flashbacks too. FFS, do something new! Fuckers. Something that was very distracting was the usage of "fuck" throughout this film. It came off like the script was written by a teenager who thought "Yeah, hard edged cops say fuck all the time! That's how you know how hard they are!" It's comical. The bitch playing the police captain was miscast too, she must have blown the right people to get that role.

Meh/10.
 
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Watched it, guess 5/10 overall not bad but will be never rewatch, was nice they tried to do something new with the series and could see this idea working much better than it did here, but this attempt had many issues, such as some of the death being flashbacks thus removing any tension if the cops will live or die, deaths being pretty goreless for the most part and Chris Rock is just not a good serious actor, and some of his line deliveries come across as very comedic.

Despite a kind of fresh idea with the series they fall back into many old habits that should have stayed in the past, why do the Saw movies always have to do the dumb plot twist shit with the flashbacks, in this case it was something you could see miles away and not really great, it was just unneeded and couldn't help but wish Samuel L. Jackson was the killer, which they kind of set up as red herring but would have totally been more engaging than what we got.

Feels like the only reason this movie happened was because of the success of Jordan Pelee in horror and Danny McBride/David Gordon Green with Halloween 2018.
 
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Apparently, this happened on Jimmy Fallon’s late night show. 21 Savage and his team executive produced the soundtrack for the movie, and 21 hung out with Chris Rock.
 
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Saw is one of my favorite horror series. Maybe number two right after FT13.

What a fucking shitshow this was. Why even try to connect it to the Saw series? Just fucking make a movie about a guy targeting cops and killing them for being assholes. It's like someone who read the fucking wikipedia, looked at the trailers and then made a movie based on that.

First and foremost, what the fuck was it with that voice? Why the fuck remove any threat whatsoever from the voice of Jigsaw and make him sound like a fucking tranny? What was the point of that? How are you supposed to feel threatened when it sounds like it's gonna ask you to venmo it $30 because it's about to get kicked out of their apartment for not paying rent?

Second, the whole point of the Saw series are the trap. How elaborate they are, but most importantly believing that the people stuck in them might actually survive. You cannot know for sure who will and who will not make it. That's why Amanda fucking with the traps and making it so they couldn't survive was such a swerve and she got what she deserved as a result.

Third, the plot is always second to the traps. Always. First and foremost people are watching this shit in order to get the traps and people being tortured and struggling. No one gives a shit to spend any time with the cops unless those cops are either in traps or the people setting the traps. Why the fuck would you spend so much time dealing with backstory and irrelevant cop shit? No1currs.

Finally: Chris Rock is fucking awful. The script he wrote is fucking awful. I don't know if he also directed it, but i'm sure he produced it, and it was fucking awful on both counts. It's like a fucking PG-13 Friday the 13th movie.

Fuck that shit, it's not a Saw movie. I'm never watching that fucking shit again even when rewatching the series.
 
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Internet War Criminal said:
Saw is one of my favorite horror series. Maybe number two right after FT13.

What a fucking shitshow this was. Why even try to connect it to the Saw series? Just fucking make a movie about a guy targeting cops and killing them for being assholes. It's like someone who read the fucking wikipedia, looked at the trailers and then made a movie based on that.

First and foremost, what the fuck was it with that voice? Why the fuck remove any threat whatsoever from the voice of Jigsaw and make him sound like a fucking tranny? What was the point of that? How are you supposed to feel threatened when it sounds like it's gonna ask you to venmo it $30 because it's about to get kicked out of their apartment for not paying rent?

Second, the whole point of the Saw series are the trap. How elaborate they are, but most importantly believing that the people stuck in them might actually survive. You cannot know for sure who will and who will not make it. That's why Amanda fucking with the traps and making it so they couldn't survive was such a swerve and she got what she deserved as a result.

Third, the plot is always second to the traps. Always. First and foremost people are watching this shit in order to get the traps and people being tortured and struggling. No one gives a shit to spend any time with the cops unless those cops are either in traps or the people setting the traps. Why the fuck would you spend so much time dealing with backstory and irrelevant cop shit? No1currs.

Finally: Chris Rock is fucking awful. The script he wrote is fucking awful. I don't know if he also directed it, but i'm sure he produced it, and it was fucking awful on both counts. It's like a fucking PG-13 Friday the 13th movie.

Fuck that shit, it's not a Saw movie. I'm never watching that fucking shit again even when rewatching the series.
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I share this same sentiment except I continue to re-watch the entire series for the story and purposely (like a dopamine rush) get into philosophical droning in my head when thinking about the deeper meaning of the traps.
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Finally: Chris Rock is fucking awful. The script he wrote is fucking awful. I don't know if he also directed it, but i'm sure he produced it, and it was fucking awful on both counts. It's like a fucking PG-13 Friday the 13th movie.
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Chris Rock, the negro man with an annoying voice, was most likely giving the greenlight by Lionsgate because he had access to a broad range of "actors" and "comedians" that wouldn't even dare touch Saw without taking a giant chunk of Saw's below 50 million budget. I remember him announcing on Instagram he was in talks with Lionsgate to produce a Saw movie because he "was a fan of the Saw movies" and immediately thinking he's gonna make a film that's going to piss me off more than Jigsaw.

Also, Lionsgate wasn't making that much domestically with the Saw Films after Saw III and the only reason why they continue to milk the name of Saw is because of their international box office...

JIGSAW (2017)
Theatrical Performance
Domestic Box Office$38,052,832
International Box Office$66,170,483
Worldwide Box Office$104,223,315
 
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Extreme Aneurysm said:
Also, Lionsgate wasn't making that much domestically with the Saw Films after Saw III and the only reason why they continue to milk the name of Saw is because of their international box office...

JIGSAW (2017)
Domestic Box Office$38,052,832
Theatrical Performance
International Box Office$66,170,483
Worldwide Box Office$104,223,315
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You gotta' keep in mind the DVD/Blu and VOD sales too because that has to be pretty decent.
 
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Extreme Aneurysm said:
I share this same sentiment except I continue to re-watch the entire series for the story and purposely (like a dopamine rush) get into philosophical droning in my head when thinking about the deeper meaning of the traps.
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Oh no absolutely, but that's like second and plus viewings, not the first one. The first one is about the elaborateness of the traps and who the fuck is gonna die and how and shit.

Extreme Aneurysm said:
I remember him announcing on Instagram he was in talks with Lionsgate to produce a Saw movie because he "was a fan of the Saw movies" and immediately thinking he's gonna make a film that's going to piss me off more than Jigsaw.
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Ngl, it's not like I expected to like the movie, but they managed to beat my expectations in terms of just how shit it was.

Honestly I already barely remember anything from the movie at this point and it's not just the fact I'm hungover.

Extreme Aneurysm said:
Also, Lionsgate wasn't making that much domestically with the Saw Films after Saw III and the only reason why they continue to milk the name of Saw is because of their international box office...

JIGSAW (2017)
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They clearly set that movie up in hope of a new franchise. Next movie is going to include a Chinese hero from occupied Taiwan.
 
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