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This is why I don't get the Muslim hypocrisy on Palestine. They can go out and conquer an empire from Spain to India but how dare the Crusaders/Zionists try to take a tiny fraction of it back. It's also strange to me from from a religious perspective; classically in Judaism, certainly throughout the Bible, Israel's military defeats/various exiles were seen as signaling divine disfavor and a sign that it needs to repent. I'm no Islamic scholar, but it seems that the Muslim approach is to completely ignore any introspection and instead whine about how mean the kuffar are.
The Koran's treatment of Biblical stories is informative. They take three or four stories about prophets, totally strip out all the adversity the prophet experienced, and turn it into Mohammed Sue wish fulfillment stories. In the Joseph story, the whole episode with Potiphar's wife changes so that Potiphar's wife - instead of #MeTooing Joseph and sending him to jail - organizes a wine aunt luncheon with her friends where they all extol Joseph's virtues and then he just saves Egypt with no context.
As far as warfare goes, the moral from the Koran is that you're going to win, and if you happen to be losing just now that's so that you can all be martyrs and get sweet rewards in Heaven, and so martyrdom is awesome and I almost wish that I was dying in battle instead of sending y'all to die because I really, really envy all of the martyrs. But, yeah, ignore all the set-backs because we're totally going to win, guys.
Analyzing losses to look for failures on your own side is very anti-Koranic.
Israel was founded on western coercion and jewish terrorism. why would muslims let them win at their own game? but since the holocaust happened* jews were given a homeland anywhere they want, and instead of an empty forest or some shit, they chose the middle of an occupied desert surrounded by muslims whose religion says to kill jews. then the jews decided to start blowing up buildings, focibly relocating or genociding mudslimes, and then after they "won" they switched to nicer tactics like carpet bombing gaza. anyone who sympathizes with israel is stupid. anyone who sympathizes with muslims is stupid too though.
Israel was founded because after the Ottoman Empire sided with the losers in WWI, Britain broke it up with the aim of the smaller states governing themselves. There was a large population of Jews living in communities along the Mediterranean who already were largely self-governing, and it was obvious that lumping them in with a majority muslim population would take away any ability for them to participate in their own governance, so Britain carved out an area and told the Jews this was their country. It's the same process that created modern day Iraq, Iran, etc. Granted, Britain dropped the ball and didn't really file the paperwork (metaphorically speaking) with the rest of the world until after WWII, but it's no more 'western coercion' than all those other countries who appeared on the map after the Ottoman Empire vanished off it.