Clashes between Jews and Palestinians in Jerusalem. Israel now invading Gaza according to (Questionable) Reports - If your thoughts are "I don't like either" you don't need to fucking post because it's been said 100 times you fucking dullard

[AnOminous]

They should probably just waste their ammo spamming them with a bunch of cheap-ass drones instead of expensive military grade ones.

 

[ForTheHoard]

They should probably just waste their ammo spamming them with a bunch of cheap-ass drones instead of expensive military grade ones.

I wouldn't be too worried about it if their response is "snipers." Shooting down a military drone with a rifle is nearly impossible.

 

[Male Idiot]

I hope this escales and Israel recalls all jews all over the world to fight for their rightful holy land of kosherdom!

Go go Jews, go back to Israel! Fight for your land (((and leave mine))) .

 

[Kotol]

I hope this escales and Israel recalls all jews all over the world to fight for their rightful holy land of kosherdom!

Go go Jews, go back to Israel! Fight for your land (((and leave mine))) .

Nonsense, that's what Americans are for.

 

[KingCoelacanth]

This attack on an israeli drone is an attack on americans everywhere

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

I wouldn't be too worried about it if their response is "snipers." Shooting down a military drone with a rifle is nearly impossible.

Best bet is some tungsten shotgun shells, but if they want to waste rifle ammo, sure. Think goose hunting. As long as they take out a few of the propellers, drone will go down like nothing.

 

[AnOminous]

Best bet is some tungsten shotgun shells, but if they want to waste rifle ammo, sure. Think goose hunting. As long as they take out a few of the propellers, drone will go down like nothing.

And falling bullets from idiots shooting in the air may kill some women and children too, which they'll promptly blame on Israel.

 

[Meat Target]

The retard doggo also forgot that "drug dealer" and "smuggler" are also not valid professions.

Don't call them that! They're undocumented pharmacists and importers.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

And falling bullets from idiots shooting in the air may kill some women and children too, which they'll promptly blame on Israel.

It's just called "Gaza summer rain" there.

 

[Male Idiot]

And falling bullets from idiots shooting in the air may kill some women and children too, which they'll promptly blame on Israel.

Its not like they care about that, they can be meatshields alive or dead.

 

[ForTheHoard]

Best bet is some tungsten shotgun shells, but if they want to waste rifle ammo, sure. Think goose hunting. As long as they take out a few of the propellers, drone will go down like nothing.

When you shoot a goose, it's usually a couple hundred feet off the ground. What's the ceiling for surveillance drones? I think quad copters can do a couple thousand feet where fixed wing drones can probably do up to 10,000. They also move a lot faster than a goose. When you're trying to lead a target in the sky, you don't have a reference point in your sight picture so every shot taken with a traditional projectile is an uneducated guess at best. There's a reason why standard issue rifles don't have aircraft sights on them. Even a slow WWII aircraft flying low is extremely hard to hit. There are instances of people shooting down drones with bird shot, but it's usually a hobby drone that's hovering less than 100ft from the ground. It wouldn't surprised me if bird shot would bounce off most military drones because the velocity lost from shooting up. Now you're fighting atmospheric drag as well as gravity.

@Male Idiot @AnOminous According to an Army study, the terminal velocity for a .30 cal bullet is about 200mph (about 293.3 fps). I believe the average weight of a standard issue 7.62x39 bullet is 122 grains. Punch those numbers into a muzzle energy calculator and a falling AK round is distributing about 23.31 ft/lbs of energy to whatever it hits. That's close to the energy of a horizontally fired paintball (about 51 grains moving at about 300fps for 10.9 ft/lbs of energy.) Firing bullets into the air isn't as fatal of an endeavor as people think it is.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

When you shoot a goose, it's usually a couple hundred feet off the ground. What's the ceiling for surveillance drones? I think quad copters can do a couple thousand feet where fixed wing drones can probably do up to 10,000. They also move a lot faster than a goose. When you're trying to lead a target in the sky, you don't have a reference point in your sight picture so every shot taken with a traditional projectile is an uneducated guess at best. There's a reason why standard issue rifles don't have aircraft sights on them. Even a slow WWII aircraft flying low is extremely hard to hit. There are instances of people shooting down drones with bird shot, but it's usually a hobby drone that's hovering less than 100ft from the ground. It wouldn't surprised me if bird shot would bounce off most military drones because the velocity lost from shooting up. Now you're fighting atmospheric drag as well as gravity.

From my experience, smaller quadcopters are practically invisible past 120-150 feet. If they can still see them, they should be able to reach them with goose shot. Something like #7 TSS should be able to wreck the propellor blades pretty easily, even without much energy left.

And yeah, it is harder to gauge distance with various drones than geese, as geese are usually of a constant size.

Edit: For reference, the drones in question are most likely something like this:

For third day in a row, IDF quadcopter falls outside Israel's borders

On Monday, Hezbollah announced that it had succeeded in downing a quadcopter belonging to the IDF in southern Lebanon.

www.jpost.com

Israeli Video Gives Glimpse Of ‘Spiderman’ Urban Assault Drone

A video from the Israel Defense Forces shows an unusual new type of drone that can clamp on to the side of a building and attach a payload.

www.forbes.com

 

[TruthSeekingDaimon]

And of course we are too gutless to nuke Saudi Arabia, which we should have done on 9/12 if not sooner.

Were gutless to nuke Beijing and Pyongyang. Just like were gutless to nuke Moscow.

Lol, we have pedophiles dressing in drag in front of children

Thats a good idea. Pedos can show off their bulge in a pride parade.
Very progressive . . .whatever you call it.

 

[AnOminous]

Firing bullets into the air isn't as fatal of an endeavor as people think it is.

But when they do hit, for obvious reasons, it's often in the head. In one seven year period in one hospital in Los Angeles alone, 118 people were hit by falling bullets, and 38 of them died. It still causes a substantial number of injuries and deaths.

"Incorvaia, A.N.; Poulos, D.M.; Jones, R.N.; Tschirhart, J.M. (2007-01-01). "Can a Falling Bullet Be Lethal at Terminal Velocity? Cardiac Injury Caused by a Celebratory Bullet". The Annals of Thoracic Surgery. 83 (1): 283–4. doi:10.1016/j.athoracsur.2006.04.046. PMID 17184680. Archived from the original (abstract) on 2007-09-28. Retrieved 2007-08-02."

The cause of injury wouldn't be that it goes through your entire body but that it just cracks your skull like an eggshell. It still has substantial mass and is traveling at high velocity, even if it is slow compared to when it comes out of the muzzle of a gun. It's not like it's just a falling coin.

That's from the wikipedia article as a disclaimer, and the article itself behind a paywall, but the other main example I know of is in places like Rio de Janeiro where "happy fire" is really common, and so are injuries from it, sometimes fatal.

 

[ForTheHoard]

But when they do hit, for obvious reasons, it's often in the head. In one seven year period in one hospital in Los Angeles alone, 118 people were hit by falling bullets, and 38 of them died. It still causes a substantial number of injuries and deaths.

"Incorvaia, A.N.; Poulos, D.M.; Jones, R.N.; Tschirhart, J.M. (2007-01-01). "Can a Falling Bullet Be Lethal at Terminal Velocity? Cardiac Injury Caused by a Celebratory Bullet". The Annals of Thoracic Surgery. 83 (1): 283–4. doi:10.1016/j.athoracsur.2006.04.046. PMID 17184680. Archived from the original (abstract) on 2007-09-28. Retrieved 2007-08-02."

The cause of injury wouldn't be that it goes through your entire body but that it just cracks your skull like an eggshell. It still has substantial mass and is traveling at high velocity, even if it is slow compared to when it comes out of the muzzle of a gun. It's not like it's just a falling coin.

That's from the wikipedia article as a disclaimer, and the article itself behind a paywall, but the other main example I know of is in places like Rio de Janeiro where "happy fire" is really common, and so are injuries from it, sometimes fatal.

I'm curious what the hosptal's definition of what a shot in the air is. Probably anything that would go over a roof that would still have significant horizontal speed when it lands.

 

[The High Prophet of Truth]

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1401247904522715138

 

[Hellbound Hellhound]

could you at least stop with these straight up lies? it's fucking embarassing

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(and these numbers are still inflated because they count participation in some govt subsidized or straight up govt run 'education and training' programmes as full time employment too)

Preach on ! The retard doggo also forgot that "drug dealer" and "smuggler" are also not valid professions. Which most immigrants who aren't welfare leeches are. Oh, and there is terrorist too, does that count as being not on welfare lol?

Democracy was a mistake made by greek faggots. Fuck Greece.

That data only includes asylum seekers; not immigration in total. According to 2019 figures, only 9% of the people who immigrated to Europe did so to seek asylum, which is far less than the 82% who came for work, family, and education reasons (41%, 27%, and 14%, respectively). [source].

If you look at the employment figures for immigrants in general, the figures paint a very different picture (relevant demographics specifically included):

(above is data from the UK).

The only thing that's embarrassing in this thread is the repeated implication from posters such as yourselves that there is no clear discrepancy in virtue between the contrasting cultures which are embroiled in the Israel-Palestine conflict. The way that you need to work yourselves into a pretzel to either deny or downplay the fact that Israel and Europe have clearly built better societies than those of their Middle Eastern enemies is genuinely perplexing.

What's the endgame exactly? Do you seriously think that Israel would be better off under Hamas governance?

 

[Male Idiot]

That data only includes asylum seekers; not immigration in total. According to 2019 figures, only 9% of the people who immigrated to Europe did so to seek asylum, which is far less than the 82% who came for work, family, and education reasons (41%, 27%, and 14%, respectively). [source].

If you look at the employment figures for immigrants in general, the figures paint a very different picture (relevant demographics specifically included):
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(above is data from the UK).

The only thing that's embarrassing in this thread is the repeated implication from posters such as yourselves that there is no clear discrepancy in virtue between the contrasting cultures which are embroiled in the Israel-Palestine conflict. The way that you need to work yourselves into a pretzel to either deny or downplay the fact that Israel and Europe have clearly built better societies than those of their Middle Eastern enemies is genuinely perplexing.

What's the endgame exactly? Do you seriously think that Israel would be better off under Hamas governance?

Are those stats including chinamen as well, instead of just kebab? Still, I doubt anything the cucked west makes. Statistics, studies, sciences, all of it is SJW busted. When societal focus is on deifying minorities and making excuses for them, science goes wayside. The dismissal of eugenics (Also known as animal husbandry) and even biological sex (inventing something fake called gender) by western world is a clear sign of a delusional society that thinks science is fee-fees, not facts.

And no, I think the place would be better under Russian or Chinese control, not the Hamas lol.

I think the orient is just better than the west, and that Eastern Europe is in the middle ground. Western Europe and its sphere is decidedly a declining, degenerate society that will soon bow to Chyna Numbah Wan or the immovable, eternal might of Russia.

 

[FlamingPie]

And no, I think the place would be better under Russian or Chinese control, not the Hamas lol.

Which isn't saying much, considering the CCP shits itself whenever Tiananmen is mentioned and does stupid shit like kill off its own sparrow population.

 

[Hellbound Hellhound]

I think the orient is just better than the west, and that Eastern Europe is in the middle ground. Western Europe and its sphere is decidedly a declining, degenerate society that will soon bow to Chyna Numbah Wan or the immovable, eternal might of Russia.

You're a moron then, because neither Russia nor China have built better societies than Israel or Western Europe, and it's not even close.

Russia is a country in a state of precipitous economic, political, and demographic decline, with a population literally drinking themselves to death (data suggests that 30% of deaths in Russia are alcohol related; the highest in the world), while China is an Orwellian nightmare of a society which is built on a flimsy economic gamble that is bound to come apart in the coming decades (the advent of increasing automation and more competitive markets to their south will see to that).

Neither represent preferable alternatives to democratic, pluralistic leadership, and all you have to explain this away are silly culture war red herrings that the vast majority of Western Europeans and Israelis neither embody nor support. You're not the first in this thread to resort to that tactic either. Get a better argument.