Classical Music Thread

[Positron]

Jean Hotteterre belonged to a family of famous composers, instrumentalists, and instrument makers. His brother Jacques-Martin Hotteterre was the prime exponent of French baroque music for the flute. Jean was a competent flute player and maker as well, but his instrument, following his father, was the Musette, a small French bagpipe. Here we have his La Noce Champêtre ou l'Himen Pastoral ("A Wedding in the Countryside or The Pastoral Marriage"), a baroque dance suite that depicts each event of that joyous occasion.

First, the Prélude: the high-spirited gathering of guests.

A stately Sarabande depicts the ceremony

The Ouverture is when the guests tuck in and raise their glasses to the newly-wed.

Then comes the dances: Menuet, Contradanse, Cotillon.

The couple then retire to their chamber for the pleasure of the night. The music not quite Rosenkavalier explicit, but you get the point.

Oh because of the bagpipe I can't help but post this piece, about another wedding from another time.

 

[JJLiautaud]

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4wbjAFHanzwzLeK1yyAFGB

Sorry for the cancerous Spotify link but a genuinely good list of music from the Ars Sublitior school of music, which is sorta the last gasp of formal medieval music before what we conceive as "Western Music" truly comes about.

 

[JJLiautaud]

Vaugh Williams is one of the most underrated composers of the 20th century.
report on /classical/: the sisterposting and the spam has been reduced to manigible levels its actually good now.

 

[Lowlife Adventures]

Vaugh Williams is one of the most underrated composers of the 20th century.
report on /classical/: the sisterposting and the spam has been reduced to manigible levels its actually good now.

Ruth Gipps, one of Vaughan Williams' students, was pretty based. This is what she had to say about homos taking over music.

Even William Walton, another underappreciated 20th C. composer from Britain was frustrated



Thoughts on faggotry aside, I like both of these composers because they had the balls to make tonal music (as in actually tonal, not the wishy-washy kind of sounds tonal but isn't) even when it would get you ostracized professionally.

 

[themanwhowalks]

 

[Tsar Nicky]

Ruth Gipps, one of Vaughan Williams' students, was pretty based. This is what she had to say about homos taking over music.
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Thoughts on faggotry aside, I like both of these composers because they had the balls to make tonal music (as in actually tonal, not the wishy-washy kind of sounds tonal but isn't) even when it would get you ostracized professionally.

Writing a lot of tonal music? Too white and straight to be successful? Surrounded by lispy faggots in their profession? What the fuck, are they me? Thank you for sharing, very based.

 

[Positron]

Thoughts on faggotry aside, I like both of these composers because they had the balls to make tonal music

Another British faggot who stayed by and large tonal when it was unfashionable was Peter Maxwell Davies. It is interesting to note that Britten, who belong to a former generation from Tippett and PMD, had felt no need to write pro-gay agitprop like Tippett (The Knot Garden) and PMD (the especially dreadful Resurrection) did. There is of course homosexuality in his operas (Death In Venice; Turn Of The Screw), but it is treated as either a romantic, sinister and doomed attraction, or a Dionysian escape, not a way to "smash the system" or "stick it to the man".

William Walton was an establishment figure who felt he was eclipsed by Britten, the new kid of the block, especially when he saw how Britten's operas, based on off-beat subjects, were feted by audience while his own opera based on Chaucer, Troilus and Cressida, failed. I can understand his frustration.

 

[JJLiautaud]

Can someone explain to me why Gould is so fete'd? When I listen to his recordings he just sounds like a really good midi recording at best.
Been enjoying Leos Janacek:

 

[Calandrino]

Can someone explain to me why Gould is so fete'd? When I listen to his recordings he just sounds like a really good midi recording at best.

His recording are great if you enjoy indistinct mumbling

 

[Positron]

Can someone explain to me why Gould is so fete'd? When I listen to his recordings he just sounds like a really good midi recording at best.

Gould was hardly the first pianist who championed Bach on the piano, although he is among the early ones and a strong advocate, and for that alone later pianists have reason to thank him. A large part of his fame is due to mythologizing. Unlike earlier Bach pianists like Rosalyn Tureck and like Leonard Bernstein (another notorious mythologizer) Gould gave a lot of broadcasts and wrote a lot of articles, plus everyone and his dog knew about Gould's eccentricities. Dying young also helped.

To be fair Gould was extremely good in clarifying the musical textures of Bach, and his approach to music was stately if just a little bit romantic for modern tastes.

 

[AnOminous]

To be fair Gould was extremely good in clarifying the musical textures of Bach, and his approach to music was stately if just a little bit romantic for modern tastes.

Gould brought FEELS to Bach. Is that so hard to understand? He may not have been technically the best, but wtf, most of the other Bach renditions have been clinical and cold. Gould actually FELT it.

Please, explain how I'm wrong.

 

[themanwhowalks]

Can someone explain to me why Gould is so fete'd? When I listen to his recordings he just sounds like a really good midi recording at best.
Been enjoying Leos Janacek:

Gould is for gay men and woman, he's more a pop culture icon then a serious pianist. I think he's an interesting thinker though, I enjoy that he pisses off Bernstein.

Gould brought FEELS to Bach. Is that so hard to understand? He may not have been technically the best, but wtf, most of the other Bach renditions have been clinical and cold. Gould actually FELT it.

Please, explain how I'm wrong.

No, you're wrong. Gould was not the first to play Bach with feeling. Marcelle Meyer's Bach is the opposite of "cold." Gieseking, Lipatti, Richter, Kapell, and Baukhaus all have incredibly emotional and intimate recordings of Bach. It actual was the norm to play Bach with feeling up until recently. Gould wasn't a very good pianist compared to pretty much all of his contemporaries. He was a fantastic musical critic and educator though and he does deserve laurels for that

 

[JJLiautaud]

Listening to Scriabin:

 

[Space Police]

Any baroque recommendations, particularly in B or E minor (recorded with modern tuning preferably) and on violin? Also there's this (I think Handel) piece in G major that I remember, but I can't seem to find it.

 

[JJLiautaud]

Any baroque recommendations, particularly in B or E minor (recorded with modern tuning preferably) and on violin? Also there's this (I think Handel) piece in G major that I remember, but I can't seem to find it.

Got any more to go on, for the Handel piece, like type, instrument, etc?

 

[Space Police]

Got any more to go on, for the Handel piece, like type, instrument, etc?

Found it:

 

[themanwhowalks]

Any baroque recommendations, particularly in B or E minor (recorded with modern tuning preferably) and on violin? Also there's this (I think Handel) piece in G major that I remember, but I can't seem to find it.

Tellman Sonata, Vivaldi Concerto for 4 violins, Handel Sonata , Loeillet Sonata, Purcell Sonata

Any reason for these specific keys?

 

[JJLiautaud]

 

[themanwhowalks]

Wagner's orchestration is ridiculously good

 

[JJLiautaud]

Wagner's orchestration is ridiculously good

Too bad his sonatas suck