Disaster Cloudflare has admitted that one of its engineers "stepped beyond the bounds of its policies" and throttled traffic to a customer's website. - Website and API became unresponsive due to extensive throttling

UPDATED Cloudflare has admitted that one of its engineers stepped beyond the bounds of its policies and throttled traffic to a customer's website.

The internet-grooming outfit has 'fessed up to the incident and explained it started on February 2 when a network engineer "received an alert for a congesting interface" between an Equinix datacenter and a Cloudflare facilit

Cloudflare's post about the matter states that such alerts aren't unusual – but this one was due to a sudden and extreme spike of traffic and had occurred twice in successive day

"The engineer in charge identified the customer's domain … as being responsible for this sudden spike of traffic between Cloudflare and their origin network, a storage provider," the post states. "Traffic from this customer went suddenly from an average of 1,500 requests per second, and a 0.5MB payload per request, to 3,000 requests per second (2x) and more than 12MB payload per request (25x)

As the spike created congestion on a physical interface, it impacted many Cloudflare customers and peer

Cloudflare's automated remedies swung into action, but weren't sufficient to completely fix the proble

An unidentified engineer "decided to apply a throttling mechanism to prevent the zone from pulling so much traffic from their origin

A post to Hacker News that Cloudflare's post links to – and which The Register therefore assumes was posted by the throttled customer – states the throttle was applied without warning and caused the customer's site and API to become effectively unavailable due to slow responses leading to timeouts.

Cloudflare has issued a mea culpa for its decision to impose the throttle.

"Let's be very clear on this action: Cloudflare does not have an established process to throttle customers that consume large amounts of bandwidth, and does not intend to have one," wrote Cloudflare senior veep for production engineering Jeremy Hartman and veep for networking engineering Jérôme Fleury.

This remediation was a mistake, it was not sanctioned, and we deeply regret it."

Cloudflare has promised to change its policies and procedures so this can't happen again – at least not without multiple execs signing off on it.

"To make sure a similar incident does not happen, we are establishing clear rules to mitigate issues like this one. Any action taken against a customer domain, paying or not, will require multiple levels of approval and clear communication to the customer," Hartman and Fleury state. "Our tooling will be improved to reflect this. We have many ways of traffic shaping in situations where a huge spike of traffic affects a link and could have applied a different mitigation in this instance."

The Hacker News post referenced above sparked a 300-plus comment conversation in which few authors have kind things to say about Cloudflare. Nor do various folks in some of the darker reaches of the web, where Cloudflare has often been accused of throttling traffic as a political act, given its track record of declining to serve sites that host hate speech.

Actually throttling a customer without warning will likely fuel theories that Cloudflare, like its Big Tech peers, is an activist organization that does not treat all types of speech fairly.

Hartman and Fleury promised that Cloudflare is re-writing its legalese to better explain what customers can expect. "We will follow up with a blog post dedicated to these changes later," the pair wrote.

The post does not mention what, if anything, happened to the engineer who applied the throttle. ®

Updated to add at 2350 UTC, February 9
Cloudflare contacted The Register with the following statement: "There were no punitive measures taken against anyone involved in this unfortunate incident. We have a blame-free culture at Cloudflare. People make mistakes. It's the responsibility of the organization to make sure that the damage from those mistakes is limited."

 
Yeah I think that's why I'm a bit confused by this articles framing. So they throttled bandwidth to protect their own network, because Cloudflare is not invincible obviously. I'm sure if you were a large government, you'd have the network resources to nuke Cloudflare off the internet.

Is there any other articles that cover this that seem a bit more neutral?
It's not about is or is that not the right thing to do, it's the fact that someone with no authority did something he was not supposed to (stated by cloudflare by apologizing), is NOT standard practice for them in that situation (acknowledging it was a mistake), and then the quote about how they're a blame-free culture and anyone can do anything at anytime and it's fine because "oopsies happen".

And on top of that it could have been something directly told to the customer WOULD NEVER HAPPEN according to that post from another source a few posts up here.

So we have something that was promised it wouldn't be done, that they don't do, done by someone who can't do, but he could have just disconnected every customer they had instead (oh, perhaps, throttle or block traffic to a specific source someone doesn't like) and that would have been cool oh well.
 
Internet shaping sounds less reactionary than internet grooming, and actually happens to be more damning.

Cloudfuck keeps jamming itself deeper down the internet's throat.
I no longer answer their captchas, I just close tabs now.

Fuck them, I'm not training their models.

"let us be very clear" Fuck you, Fleury.

The fact that any troon at clodfart can impose a throttle is revealing, and their "blame free environment" is exactly where degenerates prosper.

Eunichs should have no say in any process, anywhere, ever.

There is no fucking "right side of history"

“It says here in this history book that luckily, the good guys have won every single time. What are the odds?” - Norm the Prophet of Truth.
 
"Blamefreeculture" what the heck is this? Why do all big tech companies turn into adult day care centers where their employees can do whatever they want? What's next? They throttle the speed for important logistic companies because they said "Troons are mentally deranged"? How long will this go on until someone snaps and drags them in front of a court? Or even better in front of a firing squad?
 
It seems like this particular instance was just an engineer trying to apply a quick-fix a situation that might've seemed like an error, which is fine on its' own. HOWEVER, what isn't fine is the fact that employees can just do this to customers without approval from a superior or the customer themselves. Also, correct me if i am wrong, but isn't cloudflare's whole business DDOS protection? Isn't their product supposed to mitigate the exact problem that they were having?
 
Welcome to reality, you think all of those websites providing the five nines actually achieve such things? What is going to happen is that CF is going to rewrite the contracts with a statement that they can isolate or degrade you if they feel its required to protect the entire business and its customers, if its not already in the contract, which it would almost certainly be.
So they're basically just stealing your money in return for no consideration because they can simply turn your shit off whenever with no consequences, despite the fact what they're literally charging you for is protecting your connectivity.
Also, correct me if i am wrong, but isn't cloudflare's whole business DDOS protection? Isn't their product supposed to mitigate the exact problem that they were having?
Thanks for the money suckers, too bad for you we're not going to deliver, lmao!
 
If you set a precedent that you can keep fucking around with no punishment, it will just embolden more people to step outside their boundaries. Cloudflare has fucked up big time by not straightening them out.
 
If you set a precedent that you can keep fucking around with no punishment, it will just embolden more people to step outside their boundaries. Cloudflare has fucked up big time by not straightening them out.
Which is something they can't really afford on account of the fact them turning their back on Kiwi Farms already cost them some corporate clients. Turns out axing contracts for no real reason isn't a good look in boardrooms, only social media. This just reinforces the idea that CloudFlare is ultimately unreliable and unwilling to do what you're paying them for when they could (and possibly will) just take the easy way out for themselves and leave you holding the bag.
 
Pay us money or else. Even though you paid us money, this is a blame free environment.

They're treating their customers like unwanted house guests.

If my insurance company rammed my car into a fucking wall, I'd be mad as hell. If I was told I had to accept it because it totally harshed the driver's mellow? I'd go looking for killdozer.
 
Seems like a nothingburger, they did this because they needed to keep the service online. The no-blame policy is good because people make mistakes, I assume it's different for intentional or malicious actions. I do want to shit on cloudflare and Prince, but I don't see anything here.
 
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Seems like a nothingburger, they did this because they needed to keep the service online. The no-blame policy is good because people make mistakes, I assume it's different for intentional or malicious actions. I do want to shit on cloudflare and Prince, but I don't see anything here.
At the very least, the client deserves a breakdown of why such actions were deemed necessary at that particular time(stamp). As for a "no-blame policy", that statement implies on its face that there's absolutely zero oversight given to engineers, which sets a hilariously dangerous precedent. What's wrong with just labeling it as "discretionary measures"?

Edit: After a bit of thought, I realized that a breakdown of what caused a throttling event could only ever prove helpful to the website in question, because it would give them insight into what could be done to resolve said issues in the future. In other words, I'm still criticizing CF's actions, only more so.
 
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This seems at odds with your employee's behavior, CloudFlare.
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Look who got a promotion.
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Yeah, until you deem a customer too troublesome. Get rekt.
 

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Seems like a nothingburger, they did this because they needed to keep the service online. The no-blame policy is good because people make mistakes, I assume it's different for intentional or malicious actions. I do want to shit on cloudflare and Prince, but I don't see anything here.
And who was forcing them not even to bother to contact their paying customer? Sorry there's no excuse for this bullshit.
 
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Am i misunderstanding or is everyone else? Seems like this was simply a mistake made while trying to fix a technical issue due to too much traffic
 
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Am i misunderstanding or is everyone else? Seems like this was simply a mistake made while trying to fix a technical issue due to too much traffic
And they totally failed to communicate with the client. Why? This is a service they're paying for and if they're not getting it they deserve an IMMEDIATE fucking explanation.
 
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