Disaster CNN: Inside the misunderstood culture of furries - We Require More Vespene Gas

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Original link here: https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/14/us/furries-culture/index.html

Programming note: "This is Life with Lisa Ling" explores the furry culture Sunday at 10 p.m. ET/PT.
(CNN)The furry community has a message for the rest of the world: Their culture is not about sex.

In fact, people in the furry community are largely annoyed about how their community has generally been portrayed by mainstream media outlets.
Most feel like depictions of sexual fetishists wearing furry costumes and cavorting at wild parties are inaccurate and downright unfair, say experts.
For the unaware, we're talking about a worldwide community estimated at hundreds of thousands strong who call themselves the furry fandom.
They're made up of old and young, all genders, CEOs, blue-collar workers, singles, couples, parents, students, LGBTQ and straight — all who celebrate fantasy animal characters with human traits.
How do they celebrate? To each, their own. The different ways run the gamut.
For example, do you have an unusually powerful fascination with Bugs Bunny?
Well then, you might be a furry.
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Revealing a furry alter ego 01:04
Maybe you like to doodle original animal characters that reflect your alter-ego or persona, aka your "fursona."
Again, you could be a furry.
What if you love your animal character so much you want to wear a costume of it?
You very well may be a furry.
For many furries, putting on their costume sparks a fascinating metamorphosis.
Take longtime furry Joe Strike. When he puts on his reptilian costume, Strike transforms from self-described "pretty mellow guy" to a character he calls Komos.
"I become very sinister — very forceful and intimidating," says Strike, author of a book on the fandom called "Furry Nation." "It's so much fun to become that other person — this kind of mysterious, alluring character. Some women really take a shine to him and it's really a blast."
Because the colorful furry costumes get the most attention in the media, it supports the perception that furries are all about costumes. But they're not.
In fact, the co-founder of the first furry convention doesn't own a costume at all.
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YouTube furry video host Stormi Folf.
"If you honestly believe that furry fandom is about costuming, then you've missed the point," says Rod Stansfield, perhaps better known in the community by his pen name, Rod O'Riley. "Saying furry fandom is about wearing fur suits is like saying 'Star Trek' fandom is about wearing pointy ears."
Original 'ConFurence'
In the 1980s, Stansfield and his partner Mark Merlino — during visits to science fiction conventions — realized the furry fandom was becoming a bigger thing of its own. By 1989 they organized an "experiment" they called ConFurence Zero at a Holiday Inn in Garden Grove, California: the first known "furry convention and seminar."
Although only 65 people showed up, including only two or three in costume, ConFurence Zero started a movement of sorts.
It gave momentum to the fandom, later resulting in similar conventions such as Califur, Canada's VancouFur, Australia's ConFurgence, Eurofurence and Anthrocon, which is now held yearly in Pittsburgh. Last summer's Anthrocon, one of the biggest, drew about 8,400 people, including nearly 2,000 in costumes, according to the event website.
"We don't feel like furry fandom is something we created, it's something that was there," Stansfield says. "We were just the guys who introduced it to itself. We just came up with a goofy new way for fans to talk to each other — actually meeting, face to face. People took that and ran with it."
Three decades later the fury fandom is much bigger, using the power of the internet to reach out, organize, engage with each other and share — via videos, podcasts and art.
Pocari Roo, Barton Fox and Stormi Folf are just a few of many furries who host video channels on YouTube discussing fursonas, affordable fursuits and other topics. "I simply want to help the world understand our fandom a little better," says Stormi Folf, who prefers to use his fursona "for reasons of privacy and safety."
"I'm known as a furry but only family and close friends know my real name," he said.
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Many furry fans create and share art depicting animal characters with human traits.
Furry lingo
It's a subculture just like any other — including unique terminology.
  • For example, a "greymuzzle" is an older member of the furry fandom.
  • "Bronies" are fans of the "My Little Pony" toy, TV and movie franchise.
  • A "therian" is someone who feels an intense spiritual identification with a nonhuman animal.
  • A "babyfur" is interested in age play and young or childlike characters.
  • Milfurs are furries who are current or past members of the military.
  • Here's one more: Furries who are into costumes are called fursuiters. And yes, #FursuitFriday is a real hashtag on social media.
The fandom has grown big enough to get the attention of academia. A group of scholars has established a continuing research project at furscience.com tracking furry attitudes and backgrounds by asking them to answer questions on surveys.
"Demographically, it's mostly white. They tend to be sort of middle class and they tend to be what you think of as nerds," says MacEwan University instructor Dr. Courtney Plante, who runs the study along with researchers at Niagara County Community College, Texas A&M University and other universities.
The project's website says more than 75% of furries are under age 25 and about a third identify as "exclusively heterosexual."
Sixty percent of furries who answered surveys reported part-time or full-time enrollment in postsecondary education.
"They often like video games, computer games, board games, anime, science fiction, fantasy," Plante says.
Dancing is also big among fursuiters. In addition to costume dance events at conventions, nightspots have been getting involved. For more than a year now the Eagle Bolt Bar in Minneapolis has been hosting "Suit Up Saturday," where 20-30 fursuiters, show up every week, the bar says.
An overwhelming percentage, 84%, identify as male.
A female artist in the community who calls herself InkTiger says the mostly male fandom hasn't been a big problem for her. "There's some sexism in the fandom, as there is in any other part of society. I don't think it's any more pronounced in furry than anywhere else."
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But what does research say about fursuiters and sexual fetishes?
"We find that, with most furries and their fur suits, there's no sexual element to it for the vast majority of fursuiters," says Plante. "It's because they want to be a cartoon character in the real world."
But just like any other group, furries acknowledge a small element of sexual activity during gatherings. In the community it's known as "yiffing."
"Yiffing can refer to anything from affectionate hugging or nuzzling to totally going at it," says Strike. "It's definitely part of the fandom but it's not what the fandom is all about. If I had to throw a percentage on it I would say maybe 15%, give or take."
Stansfield, co-founder of the first convention, says it's sad the furry fandom is mischaracterized as a "sex style."
"Everything created by human beings has some degree of what people think is attractive — and attractive is a big, broad unquantifiable word — however you define that."
Can the furry fandom heal?
A lot of furries have some kind of bullying history. Researchers found they reported "significantly more bullying than the average person." According to furscience.com, 61.7% of furries reported being bullied from the ages 11-18.
Compare that with bullying rates among US students grades 6-12. About 28% have reported being bullied, according to stopbullying.gov. Internationally, a World Health Organization survey of 35 countries found 34% of all young people reported being bullied at least once in the past couple of months.
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There are 'furries' of all ages 01:35
"Research shows that furries benefit from ... interaction with like-minded others in a recreational environment, which is associated with greater self-esteem and greater life satisfaction," the website says. Experts don't know if this benefit within furry culture attracts victims of bullying but it could contribute to helping bullying victims heal.
Strike explains it this way: "When they put on the fur suit and they become somebody else, it is very liberating. You've sort of left behind that human person with all those inhibitions and problems. You become this kind of free spirit. You become somebody else who you're not the rest of the time."
The fandom tends to be shy, Plante says. Costumes make it easier to socialize "without fear of being judged."
Bottom line: Research shows that for the most part, they may be more "normal" than you think. "The interesting part of the story is just how surprisingly normal furries can be despite having a strange hobby," says Plante.
The future of furries
The future looks bright for the furry fandom. Plante estimates the fandom is between 100,000 and 1 million people — and growing. "I don't think it will ever become mainstream, because it's an unusual hobby to have. But I think as time goes on, it will be normalized in the way 'Star Trek' and 'Star Wars' fans became normalized, in the way 'Lord of the Rings' fans became normalized."
If normalization does come via movies, Stansfield hopes technology will pave the way for it by making it cheaper and easier for furries to make Hollywood-quality films.
"The turning point will be when we get to the level where a fan can make a Pixar movie in their garage," he says. "When that happens, more and more of the entertainment community is going to notice."

I wonder whether this blatant attempt to normalize furry deviancy will include some of this forum's research on individuals like Kero the Wolf?

Also, per CNN: "A "babyfur" is interested in age play and young or childlike characters." Expecting an impending shitshow when some Facebook mom plugs that into google image search.
 
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by now at least half the internet has heard about the zoosadism saga and related shit form the furry community, and CNNs reaction to that degeneracy is publishing a piece of furry apologism that just feeds back into their "wah wah fursecution" whining? what the fuck?
I am perturbed by the current MSM fad of not addressing a current event or topic directly, but immediately running a propaganda side story that dodges having to address the main issue, that would make some sacred cow look bad.
 
When your group has been "misunderstood" for 25 years straight, more or less, maybe it's not us that have a perception problem, maybe it's you who can't admit you really are a bunch of :autism: man-children who create elaborate fantasy worlds where you get all the money chicks and power you can't in real life and froth at the mouth when anyone dares point it out because "Muh tollerance!"

Tolerance means I don't wish you harm, it doesn't mean I have to agree you've done anything except wrap yourself in carpet remnants.
 
What is it about the modern media that they can't admit that not everything sexual is good? If you just scratch the surface of the furry fandom its BLATANTLY obvious that its sexual in nature. The fact they even mentioned baby furs blows my fucking mind. How can you look at baby fur art and not think it was made by someone who wants to fuck kids and puppies. Every day I wake up and see shit like this I feel like I'm locked in an asylum that's been long abandoned by any sane individual.
 
I like to cover myself in both human and animal feces and masturbate in the street but for some reason this behavior is only tolerated on the internet and in conventions with like minded folks where at least society gets a sales tax off of my degeneracy.

'If furries aren't sexual, then why do I want to fuck this human fox thing?' that's a good question.

That's a humanoid dog-thing out for a jog and it is immanently fuckable
 
Tolerance is as good as it will realistically get for most of humanity, and we should be thankful for it instead of pushing for "acceptance."

To the left, tolerance and acceptance are one and the same, worse, they believe "advocacy" is in there too, that if you aren't willing to link arms and block traffic with them, you don't really tolerate them..... the reasonable bounds of tolerance have been diluted by people looking for even more ways to virtue signal.

What is it about the modern media that they can't admit that not everything sexual is good?

IT's not just sexual, it's unconventionally sexual, that's celebrated. The old "new is better" fallacy, that "normal" is backwards and ensuring a slow death of society unless we take the "next step' in evolution, progressiveness is just that faulty logic applied to societal norms. Unless we hold up troons and babyfurs as something to aspire to, we'll all stagnate and die out in a big blob of white.....
 
IT's not just sexual, it's unconventionally sexual, that's celebrated. The old "new is better" fallacy, that "normal" is backwards and ensuring a slow death of society unless we take the "next step' in evolution, progressiveness is just that faulty logic applied to societal norms.
Its that blind rushing forward that people like Bob Chipman advocate for. They seem to have forgotten that societal progress is slow so that it has time to weed out degenerate shit like this. I used to think the religious right was exaggerating when they said all the tolerence talk would lead to shit like this. looks like I was wrong. These lunatics will advocate for any abnormal sexual act and call it progress. Pedophilia? hell yeah! What are you some kind of bigot? Zoophilia? Well clearly they want it. fuck you bigot! What do you mean there's and angry mob outside with crosses and nails calling for blood?
 
To the left, tolerance and acceptance are one and the same, worse, they believe "advocacy" is in there too, that if you aren't willing to link arms and block traffic with them, you don't really tolerate them..... the reasonable bounds of tolerance have been diluted by people looking for even more ways to virtue signal.



IT's not just sexual, it's unconventionally sexual, that's celebrated. The old "new is better" fallacy, that "normal" is backwards and ensuring a slow death of society unless we take the "next step' in evolution, progressiveness is just that faulty logic applied to societal norms. Unless we hold up troons and babyfurs as something to aspire to, we'll all stagnate and die out in a big blob of white.....

I’m having trouble grasping “deviant pervert furry sheep fucker” as the next step in evolution. It strikes me more as a proof that Darwin was right.
 
Its that blind rushing forward that people like Bob Chipman advocate for. They seem to have forgotten that societal progress is slow so that it has time to weed out degenerate shit like this. I used to think the religious right was exaggerating when they said all the tolerence talk would lead to shit like this. looks like I was wrong. These lunatics will advocate for any abnormal sexual act and call it progress. Pedophilia? hell yeah! What are you some kind of bigot? Zoophilia? Well clearly they want it. fuck you bigot! What do you mean there's and angry mob outside with crosses and nails calling for blood?

Remember that bestiality is legal in Canada. Yeah, so tolerant and accepting btw imma go blow this dog.
 
Its that blind rushing forward that people like Bob Chipman advocate for. They seem to have forgotten that societal progress is slow so that it has time to weed out degenerate shit like this. I used to think the religious right was exaggerating when they said all the tolerence talk would lead to shit like this. looks like I was wrong. These lunatics will advocate for any abnormal sexual act and call it progress. Pedophilia? hell yeah! What are you some kind of bigot? Zoophilia? Well clearly they want it. fuck you bigot! What do you mean there's and angry mob outside with crosses and nails calling for blood?

The Religious Right developed their prohibitions against this sort of thing precisely because they saw back in the annals of history, just how quickly it led to sheep/goat/camel/chickefuckers.
 
Ya know a few days ago I randomly found myself watching a youtube video that was being aggressively recommended to me of some ex-furfag (apparently he has a page here so he claims but I couldnt be bothered to check) on why he is leaving the "furry community" and all the dark sekrit sins of the furry untermensch.

While nothing groundbreaking was discussed (much was talked about the sexual depravity and pedophilia/bestiality creepers so nothing I havent been hearing about since 2005) the one interesting point brought up was that a fucktunne o furries had diffused themselves into the various SJW groups on the internet (especially twitter) and had become the most aggressive and fanatical in their attacks on anyone who gets declared a nazi by the hive mind, and honestly this does seem to hold some truth from what I have seen on twitter and beyond, since all too often the SJW mobbings I witness are carried out near exclusively by queer/nonbinary/whatevergender furries (and sometimes a smattering of blue checkmarks) and places like ResetEra are fucking infested.

I might be sounding a little conspiracy theory here, but given the obvious infestation the wokesphere has with furries, just how much of the past 5/6 years of autistic left wing crusading against every flame war/meme/internet subculture and websites like 4chan/8chan have in reality been the work of extremely bitter and vengeful furries collaboratively steering left wing social media (and from here actual media) against those who mocked and tormented them so much during the 2000-2010 era?

If memory serves me right, screeching about how anti furry types were all violent and perverted neo-nazis was the standard way of dealing with the abuse they got from internet people, so am I crazy in thinking the jawdropping levels of fucktardation we have seen in the left has been the result of a prolonged furry infection?
 
Ya know a few days ago I randomly found myself watching a youtube video that was being aggressively recommended to me of some ex-furfag (apparently he has a page here so he claims but I couldnt be bothered to check) on why he is leaving the "furry community" and all the dark sekrit sins of the furry untermensch.

While nothing groundbreaking was discussed (much was talked about the sexual depravity and pedophilia/bestiality creepers so nothing I havent been hearing about since 2005) the one interesting point brought up was that a fucktunne o furries had diffused themselves into the various SJW groups on the internet (especially twitter) and had become the most aggressive and fanatical in their attacks on anyone who gets declared a nazi by the hive mind, and honestly this does seem to hold some truth from what I have seen on twitter and beyond, since all too often the SJW mobbings I witness are carried out near exclusively by queer/nonbinary/whatevergender furries (and sometimes a smattering of blue checkmarks) and places like ResetEra are fucking infested.

I might be sounding a little conspiracy theory here, but given the obvious infestation the wokesphere has with furries, just how much of the past 5/6 years of autistic left wing crusading against every flame war/meme/internet subculture and websites like 4chan/8chan have in reality been the work of extremely bitter and vengeful furries collaboratively steering left wing social media (and from here actual media) against those who mocked and tormented them so much during the 2000-2010 era?

If memory serves me right, screeching about how anti furry types were all violent and perverted neo-nazis was the standard way of dealing with the abuse they got from internet people, so am I crazy in thinking the jawdropping levels of fucktardation we have seen in the left has been the result of a prolonged furry infection?

Is it this one? It seems that Youtube has been pushing this to a lot of people for some reason.

 
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