Coinbase Vs. SEC - Apparently Nulls favorite exchange is done playing nice with the Feds.

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In response to a Wells Notice from the SEC, Coinbase has essentially declared an end to their cooperation with the Federal Government. Saying they have done all they could to work with regulators and will no longer be pushed around by arbitrary rules making.

Coinbase offers a fiery response to the SEC's threat of enforcement action​


KEY POINTS
  • Crypto exchange Coinbase told the SEC that any enforcement action against the exchange would "fail on the merits" and would present "major" risks to the SEC's regulatory model.
  • The response was shared in a blog post by Coinbase chief legal officer Paul Grewal.
  • Coinbase received a Wells notice, a warning from the SEC that it intended to pursue enforcement action against the exchange, in late March.
Crypto exchange Coinbase offered a fiery response on Thursday to last month's Wells notice from the Securities and Exchange Commission, telling the federal regulator that an enforcement action against the crypto exchange would pose "major programmatic risks" to the SEC that would "fail on the merits."

"Coinbase does not list, clear, or effect trading in securities," the company's response said. The analysis SEC staffers did to justify an enforcement action "appears to rest on superficial and incorrect analogies to products and services offered by others," Coinbase wrote in a blog post from chief legal officer Paul Grewal.

sued a Florida orange grove operator for a leaseback and profit-sharing arrangement involving the sale of oranges.

The four elements Howey requires to determine whether transactions constitute investment contracts are: an investment, in common enterprise, reasonable expectation of profit, derived from the work of others.

Coinbase is a secondary market, meaning that investors buy and sell assets that they already own rather than purchasing them directly from an issuer. The Nasdaq and the New York Stock Exchange are also secondary markets for U.S. equities. Courts have already been reluctant to extend "Howey's reach to include the secondary trading of assets where no issuer is involved," Coinbase's response noted.

Coinbase also issued a point-by-point repudiation of Howey's applicability to the exchange's staking service. "Coinbase's retail staking services fail all four prongs of the Howey test," Coinbase's response said.

Coinbase is represented by Sullivan & Cromwell.

"The SEC generally does not acknowledge the existence or non-existence of any investigation unless or until charges are filed," a spokesperson for the SEC told CNBC.

"Coinbase has never wanted to litigate with the Commission. The Commission should not want to litigate either," Coinbase wrote in its response. "Litigation will put the Commission's own actions on trial," Coinbase said, and "erode public trust cultivated over decades."
 

Coinbase Armed for Legal Clash Over How Crypto Is Regulated (paywalled)​

Facing possible SEC lawsuit, biggest U.S. exchange questions how regulators flex authority over digital-asset industry​


An SEC lawsuit against Coinbase would threaten the unregulated business model of crypto exchanges.
PHOTO: SHANNON STAPLETON/REUTERS

By

Dave Michaels and
Paul Kiernan
April 27, 2023 2:45 pm ET


WASHINGTON— Coinbase Global Inc. said Thursday it would fight the Securities and Exchange Commission over the agency’s claim that much of its business is illegal and try to convince a court that Wall Street regulators lack the authority to oversee cryptocurrency markets.
The company outlined its legal strategy in a memorandum that formally responded to the SEC’s earlier notice of a potential enforcement action against the company. The memo, made public by Coinbase along with a video featuring its chief executive, underscores the company’s effort to generate political backing and public support for its confrontation with the SEC.
An SEC lawsuit against Coinbase would threaten the unregulated business model of crypto exchanges, which contributed to their early profitability and rapid growth. If Coinbase loses, it could be forced to register parts of its business with regulators or delist many crypto tokens that regulators say are securities that should have to comply with investor-protection rules.
Gary Gensler, the SEC’s chairman, told House lawmakers last month that crypto exchanges are largely noncompliant with laws they are supposed to follow. They may need to delist many tokens they offer and restructure their operations to fit within SEC rules designed to limit conflicts of interest and other risks to investors, he said.
The regulatory feud comes as Coinbase struggles to make money amid a broader downturn in cryptocurrency markets. The company posted four consecutive quarterly losses as lower prices for assets like bitcoin hurt its revenue and trading volumes declined.
Lower trading volume has hurt Coinbase’s transaction revenue, the lion’s share of the company’s total net revenue over the past two years. Its other revenue streams from staking—where investors earn yield from locking up crypto—and interest income earned on a cryptocurrency pegged to the dollar, USD Coin, are also under threat as regulators go after staking. The market cap of USD Coin has declined by $10 billion since the start of last month’s banking crisis.
The SEC in March told Coinbase that regulators would likely allege the company operated a securities exchange, a brokerage firm, and a clearinghouse in violation of federal laws. It also said Coinbase sold assets that should have been registered as securities. Registration typically requires giving buyers audited financial statements and risk disclosures.

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Coinbase says the hundreds of cryptocurrencies on its exchange aren’t securities and that it has repeatedly explained its process for listing tokens to the SEC. So far, SEC officials have only conceded that bitcoin, which accounts for 29% of Coinbase’s transaction revenues, isn’t a security.
“I don’t think it’s bet-the-company litigation, but it’s critical for the industry as whole that we get clarity around what assets can be offered in the U.S. and on what terms,” Coinbase chief legal officer Paul Grewal
said in an interview.

Mr. Gensler has disputed that laws aren’t clear. “Crypto markets suffer from a lack of regulatory compliance,” Mr. Gensler said in an online video Thursday. “It’s not a lack of regulatory clarity.”
The SEC has waged an enforcement campaign against crypto since late 2017, with activity accelerating after the collapse of global crypto exchange FTX. Prosecutors have since accused FTX’s founders of committing fraud. While most crypto companies settled with the SEC rather than go to court, a few have taken their chances at trial.
Ripple Labs Inc. has litigated with the SEC over the sale of the XRP cryptocurrency since 2020. A federal judge could issue a final decision in the case in the coming months.
Much of Coinbase’s response to the SEC’s lawsuit notice argues that regulators have refused to list the digital assets that are securities. The firm said a court should also consider whether regulators have the authority to regulate crypto assets at all.
Coinbase said a legal test, known as the major questions doctrine, invoked last year by the Supreme Court, raises doubt about that authority. That doctrine restricts federal agencies from taking steps with vast economic and political significance without what the majority of the court considers explicit direction from Congress.
“The threat of imminent litigation appears to be intended to pressure Coinbase to accept demands that the commission simply does not have the authority to order,” Steven Peikin, an attorney for Coinbase, wrote in the response memo to the SEC.
Mr. Peikin oversaw the SEC’s enforcement program from 2017 to 2020, including many of its early actions against crypto companies. Mr. Peikin is now a partner at Sullivan & Cromwell LLP, the law firm that also employs
Jay Clayton, who ran the SEC during the Trump administration and kicked off the SEC’s enforcement campaign against crypto.

An SEC lawsuit against Coinbase could test regulators’ reliance on a 76-year-old Supreme Court test known as Howey to regulate many crypto projects. The Howey case addressed the sale of an “investment contract,” a type of security regulated by the SEC.
Coinbase says the Howey test covered a company’s initial sale of an asset, and regulators haven’t proven why it should govern tokens trading on secondary markets. Losing on that theory would decimate the SEC’s ability to regulate cryptocurrencies, which most investors access through exchanges.
—Vicky Ge Huang contributed to this article.

Coinbase says the hundreds of cryptocurrencies on its exchange aren’t securities and that it has repeatedly explained its process for listing tokens to the SEC.
Oddly, this is exactly the IRS' position. Crypto is considered property and not a security for tax purposes. Good (no Wash Sale BS) and Bad, potentially very bad (no Worthless Security loss allowed, though maybe if you get cute there's some weird workaround. Just gird your loins for a love letter from the IRS if you try it.)

The SEC and the IRS taking such different positions means (in an ideal world) Congress gets involved and offers "bright line" guidance. The world we live in now, though, they'd probably just make everything worse. And everything just moves offshore even more than it is now, something like that.
 
There is now bipartisan legislation in the Senate demanding that ALL crypto wallets (even offline ones) be regulated like a bank account and be accessible for the government to look inside. Privacy? Cybersecurity? Doesn't matter, the IRS needs to make sure they can get your money, pleb! Fun fact, Elizabeth Warren is the Democrat sponsor (Republican sponsor is from Kansas).
The SEC and the IRS taking such different positions means (in an ideal world) Congress gets involved and offers "bright line" guidance. The world we live in now, though, they'd probably just make everything worse. And everything just moves offshore even more than it is now, something like that.
Congress is just as corrupted by big money interests which hate you as the SEC and IRS, but extra retarded because they're corrupted by far, far more of them. Expect nothing good.
 
It never ceases to amaze me how Elizabeth Warren is able to fuck over the working class with bills that imply she is trying to help them. That duplicitous cunt is a liar among frauds.
One can’t be shocked since this is the same Elizabeth awareness who lied about being Native American and also pretending to know how beer works:

 
Robinhood drops ADA, MATIC and SOL, all named in the lawsuit as securities. Nosedives follow.
There's been some conflicting news on whether this will happen to all of the coins named, the blog post above says it's just these three.
 
Coinbase is the cool kid who showed up the whiny brat kid (USA Government).

The whiny kid got very angry and salty...

Will the whiny kid throw the ultimate tantrum and ban BTC?

Oh, by the way, this will mean Bitcoin on the Dark Web will go through the roof - the USA banning Alcohol around the time of Al Capone worked out REALLY well didn't it?
 
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Will the whiny kid throw the ultimate tantrum and ban BTC?
They literally can't do this unless the American government is going to somehow go and round up every wallet from Washington to Sydney to Tokyo to Lima to Johannesburg to Reykjavik, etc. The US regulators throwing a bitchfit certainly hurts, but there's still a world outside of it.
 
They literally can't do this unless the American government is going to somehow go and round up every wallet from Washington to Sydney to Tokyo to Lima to Johannesburg to Reykjavik, etc. The US regulators throwing a bitchfit certainly hurts, but there's still a world outside of it.
Yep, and they'd need a deluded fool of a President in order to accomplish this...

*REMEMBERS WHO THE POTUS IS* Oh crap...
 
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I would suggest if you are holding crypto on a centralized exchange you...not. get gud and learn to cold store on a hard drive you own. Don't use something you use on the regular mind you. My crypto wallet is kept on a laptop that when not in use sits in a drawer in my office.

If you want to go full paranoid, you can store the crypto on an external hard drive and then rent space in a bank vault.
 
The violence has escalated. Unsealed court documents indicate the SEC attempted to freeze all assets under the control of Binance.

https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2023/06/13/us-judge-rebuffs-sec-request-for-binanceus-asset-freeze-for-now/
Seriously, get your shit off the central exchanges.
Incidentally, Judge Amy Berman Jackson who just told the SEC to go fuck themselves is an Obama appointee, and possibly the most liberal member of the United States District Court for the District of Columbia. And Coinbase has Sullivan & Cromwell, a law firm that has fucked the federal government in the ass on more than one occasion.

As usual, keep as much of your assets as possible under your own personal direct control, especially in assets like XMR where the feds can basically go fuck themselves, but I wouldn't worry too much about keeping spending money on Coinbase, at least if the (apparent) origin is legit and you don't plan on cheating on your taxes about that particular money.
 
Incidentally, Judge Amy Berman Jackson who just told the SEC to go fuck themselves is an Obama appointee, and possibly the most liberal member of the United States District Court for the District of Columbia. And Coinbase has Sullivan & Cromwell, a law firm that has fucked the federal government in the ass on more than one occasion.

As usual, keep as much of your assets as possible under your own personal direct control, especially in assets like XMR where the feds can basically go fuck themselves, but I wouldn't worry too much about keeping spending money on Coinbase, at least if the (apparent) origin is legit and you don't plan on cheating on your taxes about that particular money.
She's apparently going to revisit the issue on Thursday. So we'll see. In the interim, for super normie crypto users, I highly recommend using MetaMask. Its fully operable with the Kiwifarms Chosen Browser, Brave, as a browser extension. Once you've signed up, you are given a mainnet address for ETH and BTC, with a 12 word custodial key that the app wisely advises you write down on PAPER. The extension has full operability with the central exchanges. minus network fees, while is also a US based corporation that is currently not being Tea Bagged by the SEC. So for those worried about not running afoul of the tax man or getting shafted by Russians, its a good bet.

If what I just said about Mainnets, Custodial Keys, and Network Fees was complete word salad to you, I suggest you research quickly. All the central exchanges work with these applications, but they do not hold your hand as a matter of liability. Metamask is good training wheels for entering the wild frontier because unlike more unforgiving wallets, its decentralized and you CAN access it from other computers. Which for crypto purists is a major point AGAINST it. But for a noob, its useful for learning purposes.
 
learn to cold store on a hard drive
If you're going to spend the money, just get a hardware wallet and a small drawer safe. If you do buy a hardware wallet, make sure you buy it directly from an official retailer as 3rd party sellers can potentially hack the devices before you get them. If you wanna go super cheap, get a small piece of stainless steel and etch/punch your key phrase from a hot wallet.
 
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