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College students get emotional about climate change. Some are finding help in class
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By Rebecca Redelmeier
2024-12-22 05:00:00GMT

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At Cornell University, one professor is helping students navigate their emotions about climate change by learning about food.
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More than 50% of youth in the United States are very or extremely worried about climate change, according to a recent survey in the scientific journal The Lancet.

The researchers, who surveyed over 15,000 people aged 16–25, also found that more than one in three young people said their feelings about climate change negatively affect their daily lives.

The study adds to a growing area of research that finds that climate change, which is brought on primarily by the burning of fossil fuels, is making young people distressed. Yet experts say there are proven ways to help young people cope with those feelings — and college classrooms could play a key role.

"When any of us talk about climate with students, we can't just talk about what's happening in the atmosphere and oceans," says Jennifer Atkinson, a professor at the University of Washington. "We have to acknowledge and make space for them to talk openly about what's happening in their own lives and be sensitive and compassionate about that."

Atkinson studies the emotional and psychological toll of climate change. She also teaches a class on climate grief and eco-anxiety, during which students examine the feelings they have around climate change with their peers. The first time the class was offered in 2017, registration filled overnight, Atkinson says.

While teaching, Atkinson says she keeps in mind that many of her students have lived through floods or escaped wildfires — disasters that have increased in intensity as the world warms — before they even start college, yet often have had few places to find support. In the classroom, students come together, frequently finding solace and understanding in one another, she says.

"Students repeatedly say that the most helpful aspect isn't anything they hear me say," says Atkinson. "But rather the experience of being in the room with other people who are experiencing similar feelings and realizing that their emotions are normal and really widespread."

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Students at Cornell University discuss how climate change threatens some of the foods they eat. They also learn what they can do about it during a class on climate change and food.
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Making climate change personal in class
Atkinson is one of several professors around the country who has opted to put emotions and solutions at the center of her climate teaching to help students learn how to address their worries about human-driven climate change.

At Cornell University in Ithaca, New York, Michael Hoffmann, who directed the Cornell Institute for Climate Change Solutions and held other university leadership positions before becoming a professor emeritus, introduced a class on food and climate change last year. The point of focusing on food, Hoffmann says, is to teach students how to connect with climate change through their personal experiences.

"When you tell the climate change story, it has to be relevant to people," says Hoffmann. "I'd argue there isn't much more anything more relevant than food."

In 2021, Hoffman co-wrote a book on how climate change could impact beloved foods like coffee, chocolate, and olive oil. He started the class in 2023 after students told him they were feeling dread about what climate change could mean for their futures.

Part of the goal, Hoffmann says, is to provide students with clear steps they can take to address climate change. Evidence suggests that approach could counteract students' anxieties.

Since 2022, researchers at the Yale Program on Climate Change Communication have published a biannual report on climate change's influence on the American mind. In the most recent report, released in July, they found most people are able to cope with the stress of climate change. However, about one in 10 say they feel anxious or on edge about global warming several days per week.

Bringing students together to connect about climate change and learn about solutions could help curb that toll, according to lead researcher and program director Anthony Leiserowitz.

"The best antidote to anxiety is action," says Leiserowitz. "Especially, I would make a plug for action with other people."

Facing the problem
Students, too, welcome more creative and emotionally-minded climate classes. Three-quarters of those who responded to the recent Lancet survey endorsed climate education and opportunities for discussion and support in academic settings.

At Cornell University, dozens of students have taken Hoffmann's class. They learn about the global risks to food brought on by warming temperatures and how personal food decisions can play a role in contributing to planet-warming pollution.

Freshman Andrea Kim, who enrolled in the class this semester, welcomes those lessons. For a recent class, students met in a campus dining hall to make their dinner selections. Then they headed to the seminar room next door, where they partnered up to tell each other how the foods on their plate would be impacted by climate change.

After inspecting a classmate's dinner, Kim explained that the rice, fish, and salad the student had chosen would all be threatened as global temperatures rose. It's the kind of assignment, she says, that has helped her better understand the dangers of climate change and steps she can take.

"I think it's good that we're not just, like, pushing away the problem," says Kim. "Because it's still going to be there, whether or not we address it."

Kim says she sometimes feels stressed about climate change, especially while scrolling through the news on her phone. But she and several other students say the class has helped them navigate those feelings.

Jada Ebron, a senior at Cornell, says she began the class feeling like there wasn't much she could do about climate change. She says she was frustrated that large companies and governments continue to pollute and that people who are low-income and non-white suffer more as a result.

The class doesn't shy away from those truths, says Hoffmann. But it aims to show students that their actions aren't futile either.

To Ebron, that framing resonates.

"It forces you to challenge your beliefs and your ideas about climate change," says Ebron, who spent part of the summer before her senior year researching how climate change impacts communities of color. "There is something that you can do about it, whether it's as small as educating yourself or as big as participating in social justice movements."
 
I got bored during the pandemic and did a deep dive into the relationship between co2 emissions and climate change and it's really not straightforward.

C02 is, say, only .042% percent of the atmosphere. That's 420 parts per million. That would also mean if you looked straight upwards at the troposphere, which is 10 miles up, that there would be 420 atoms of carbon dioxide in those 10 miles along the path of a single photon.

The rationale is that c02 absorbs certain wavelengths of light and then emits the infrared energy back at the earth for whatever reason, but only somehow reflects it back at the earth after it reflects off the ocean. The reasoning is tortured.

If you ask chatgpt about this stuff, there are actually heavy guardrails and it will give you equations of the models they used to predict that the temperature would rise - which is not the same thing as explaining the physics behind this "greenhouse" mechanism, which is not obvious to me.

On youtube I get retarded videos where teachers fill up balloons with carbon dioxide and shine lights on them and are like "see how it's hotter?"

I'm not saying that humanity isn't fucking up the planet somehow but the fixation on c02 doesn't make sense to me, especially since the same people who predicted the entire planet was going to die of covid with their absolutely terrible models also did the climate change models.
 
I got bored during the pandemic and did a deep dive into the relationship between co2 emissions and climate change and it's really not straightforward.

C02 is, say, only .042% percent of the atmosphere. That's 420 parts per million. That would also mean if you looked straight upwards at the troposphere, which is 10 miles up, that there would be 420 atoms of carbon dioxide in those 10 miles along the path of a single photon.

The rationale is that c02 absorbs certain wavelengths of light and then emits the infrared energy back at the earth for whatever reason, but only somehow reflects it back at the earth after it reflects off the ocean. The reasoning is tortured.

If you ask chatgpt about this stuff, there are actually heavy guardrails and it will give you equations of the models they used to predict that the temperature would rise - which is not the same thing as explaining the physics behind this "greenhouse" mechanism, which is not obvious to me.

On youtube I get retarded videos where teachers fill up balloons with carbon dioxide and shine lights on them and are like "see how it's hotter?"

I'm not saying that humanity isn't fucking up the planet somehow but the fixation on c02 doesn't make sense to me, especially since the same people who predicted the entire planet was going to die of covid with their absolutely terrible models also did the climate change models.

OMG, you are a such ignorant! Skibidi yourself, xoxo!

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As you see in the enclosed graph, the sheer numbers of CO2 in atmosphere is rising since the start of measuring of it in atmosphere, you dummy! There's a convergence of the rise of CO2 in atmosphere with the rise of average temperature on Earth. In these research we can conclude that correlation is a causation due to lack of different factors that could involve rise of average temperature on Earth.


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We can reasonably assume that Earth's temperature fluctuations are part of a natural cycle of glacial and interglacial periods, as evidenced by studies of ice core samples from the polar regions. However, prior to the advent of human industrial activity, these changes occurred gradually over hundreds, if not thousands, of years. The current rise in average global temperature brings with it a critical issue: the accelerated melting of ice caps, which introduces an additional compounding factor—water vapor. Elevated levels of water vapor in the atmosphere exacerbate temperature increases, as it is a potent greenhouse gas, amplifying the greenhouse effect significantly.

But yeah, watch some high-school dropout YouTuber...
 
We can reasonably assume that Earth's temperature fluctuations are part of a natural cycle of glacial and interglacial periods, as evidenced by studies of ice core samples from the polar regions. However, prior to the advent of human industrial activity, these changes occurred gradually over hundreds, if not thousands, of years. The current rise in average global temperature brings with it a critical issue: the accelerated melting of ice caps, which introduces an additional compounding factor—water vapor. Elevated levels of water vapor in the atmosphere exacerbate temperature increases, as it is a potent greenhouse gas, amplifying the greenhouse effect significantly.

But yeah, watch some high-school dropout YouTuber...

The problem is, the average Burgerlander can't do anything about this, other than try and produce less waste. China and India are flooding the world with their anal factory farts, and if the US and Europe become less economically powerful, the other countries will step up and produce even more pollution. I'm willing to go back to a time when things were built to last, but the perpetual-growth economists have created a system where we need to consume cheap crap that constantly breaks and is replaced. Telling young people that they're doomed and need to give up water and breathing to save the planet is not only a bad use of resources, it only serves to create nervous sheep that can't make good decisions and will flock to anyone claiming to be a savior.
 
I went to uni for environmental science and it only took 2 years to figure out it was all bull shit. Year one was just write about other hippies, year two was all about how bad black people have it.
 
Despite supporting the Green New Deal, they will also complain they can't afford a car, house/rent, and groceries.

Car's cost a fortune because all the government EV, emissions, and safety mandates the left has placed on automakers.

Boomers/Gen X watched 80's cartoons on how developers are evil, and after buying their McMansion have discovered conservation. They embraced don't build anything anywhere, enacted numerous planning and environmental restrictions on new housing developments, passed those anti-growth beliefs down to their children. Furthermore they taught their girls, they don't need a man and should put career first, so the number of single people exploded. Then they opened the border to illegals. Demand surged for the limited housing stock that can no longer be economically built.

They fucked over the farmers as much as they fucked over the developers, and think they can enact future bans on fertilizer and cow fart emissions without it collapsing the food supply. Of course, they also supported the lockdowns which caused the runaway inflation to begin with.

When all these policies hit home, there's no affordable transportation, shelter, and food. But they won't be able to see the effects their environmental policies have had. They won't admit defeat, but double down and demand hard communism combined with WEF pod living as the solution.

With Trump, we may get a 4 year reprieve, but we also know that hard accelerationism, like another global lockdown to instantly prompt an economic collapse, is part of the globalist playbook.
 
We can reasonably assume that Earth's temperature fluctuations are part of a natural cycle of glacial and interglacial periods, as evidenced by studies of ice core samples from the polar regions. However, prior to the advent of human industrial activity, these changes occurred gradually over hundreds, if not thousands, of years.
I don't know my nigga... there's some steep ups and downs on this graph.
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So, I've mentioned this before, but about a dozen or so years ago, I was a Unitarian Universalist. I was also considered somewhat of a "leader" among people (strong personality, had money, you know how these things go...) so I did a lot of leadership stuff in the church. And I was kind of fine with that. It was nice to know I was going somewhere in life when all my peers seemed to be going upward and I just stalled.

I decided to go to the yearly General Assembly. It's generally a kum-ba-ya thing, but it's also supposed to be "where the church stands of social issues" sort of meeting...which, yeah. That's what you get with the UU.

Anyway, the point of this ramble is that there was climate change meeting, something I was really interested in because, young, dumb, wanting to make a difference. The meeting started out fine, and then the leader just...stopped the meeting because we all needed to turn to our neighbors and talk about our feeeeeeelings.

Not an action plan, not government policy, not ways of protesting, not handing out scientific literature. Feelings.

At that point, I was pretty redpilled and it started my descent into leaving the church entirely (it didn't help that there was a scandal going on, but that's a different story). I got the sense that UUs don't care about facts, only feelings.

All of this to say: people lean way too much into their feelings. They just want to feel things. I think we've taught people that's an acceptable substitute for action. That if you feel things enough, someone is actually going to do something. Not themselves, naturally, but someone will hear their beleaguered pleas and mind-read everyone's desires and construct a beautiful utopia where they only need to feel good things, not bad things.

I have an entirely different rant on the fact that your family should be teaching you how to navigate feelings and the state (or school...or whatever) needs to step back and say "we're not here to baby you, not our job, talk to your parents about that shit", but I think I've said enough for now.
 
"When any of us talk about climate with students, we can't just talk about what's happening in the atmosphere and oceans," says Jennifer Atkinson, a professor at the University of Washington. "We have to acknowledge and make space for them to talk openly about what's happening in their own lives and be sensitive and compassionate about that."

Maybe you do, I sure don't. It's great to be me!
 
Yeah I remember when acid rain was gonna kill all the crops, and the hole in the ozone layer was gonna melt the ice caps in the 90's. Odd how that is forgotten lol.
I remember being terrified of that shit when I was a kid. Also remember the south american killer bees scare. It's a constant game of chicken little oneupmanship.
 
Climate Change pants-wetting always exposes who doesn't actually care about the environment and who is scared of their own mortality.

Even if humanity managed to wipe itself out, life would continue on Earth in some form. The current trend of fearmongering always belies a human-centrism. Nature takes care of itself. When deer get overpopulated, do they piss their pants and brow-beat the other deer about it, quaking in fear of the impending correction? No. Then the depopulation occurs and things are reduced to normal levels. If humanity is overpopulated, nature will always rebalance things.

All the climate change bullshit and the COVID bullshit are all just different manifestations of a population that is deeply uncomfortable with the thought that one day they will die, imo
 
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