#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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If someone did the math, I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised to find the vast majority of money in CG is tied up in vaporware. Meaning most of the money CG has made is linked to projects that haven't yet fulfilled.

It seems the barometer to success in CG goes back to the old Mark Hamill line used to describe the Force Awakens, "It doesn't matter how good it is, the only thing that matters is how much money it made."

A lot of these projects haven't yet fulfilled and when they finally make their way into backers hands and get reviewed, most of them are trash.

CG might just be all smoke & mirrors afterall..
 
9th legion centurion 002 said:
If someone did the math, I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised to find the vast majority of money in CG is tied up in vaporware. Meaning most of the money CG has made is linked to projects that haven't yet fulfilled.

It seems the barometer to success in CG goes back to the old Mark Hamill line used to describe the Force Awakens, "It doesn't matter how good it is, the only thing that matters is how much money it made."

A lot of these projects haven't yet fulfilled and when they finally make their way into backers hands and get reviewed, most of them are trash.

CG might just be all smoke & mirrors afterall..
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An awful lot of incompetence, that's for sure. I think a lot of indie creators just see the fun part, the creative freedom and collecting the money. But this is a fuckload of hard work. It's easy to get in the weeds.

It's important to remember to be polite to people who are waiting for the product they paid for. Treating them poorly is inexcusable. That guy who said, "Our interactions have soured me to your next project" even though he seemed to like the first book he'd been waiting on really drove that home.

On another note, I hate to see Zack on that list. I'm going to help him get back on track again.
 
FROG said:
An awful lot of incompetence, that's for sure. I think a lot of indie creators just see the fun part, the creative freedom and collecting the money. But this is a fuckload of hard work. It's easy to get in the weeds.

It's important to remember to be polite to people who are waiting for the product they paid for. Treating them poorly is inexcusable. That guy who said, "Our interactions have soured me to your next project" even though he seemed to like the first book he'd been waiting on really drove that home.

On another note, I hate to see Zack on that list. I'm going to help him get back on track again.
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fulfillment is his biggest Achille‘s heel right now. The second is quality.
 
Fulfillment is everyone's biggest challenge. There's no way around it but through it.

You can either give a fulfillment service all of your profits to do it for you, or you can sit down, put on headphones and motor your way through it for a month or two. The thing about being ComicsGate is that we're no longer full time comic book pros. We're also YouTubers and a packing/shipping service with 24/7 customer service. It's not for everyone.
 
9th legion centurion 002 said:
It seems the barometer to success in CG goes back to the old Mark Hamill line used to describe the Force Awakens, "It doesn't matter how good it is, the only thing that matters is how much money it made."

A lot of these projects haven't yet fulfilled and when they finally make their way into backers hands and get reviewed, most of them are trash.
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That really does make sense, I picked up Jungle Comics #1 because I saw the Dixon's name on the cover and considering how fucking bizarre and flaming trash it was it doesn't surprise me it came out of the creative hell that is low level Indie/Grift CG, I felt bad about paying 3.99 for it, but I can't even begin to imagine how bad it would feel to pay upwards of 10$+ Shipping for this... and then not getting it, then again not having a psychical copy of this for someone to stumble upon in your home actually might be a small mercy.

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I don't think there is anything worse than poorly drawn "sexy" women, you would think some of these artists would be more self aware, but then again it looks like he draws fur/animals better than people so that checks out :story:
 
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sKr0n said:
That really does make sense, I picked up Jungle Comics #1 because I saw the Dixon's name on the cover and considering how fucking bizarre and flaming trash it was it doesn't surprise me it came out of the creative hell that is low level Indie/Grift CG, I felt bad about paying 3.99 for it, but I can't even begin to imagine how bad it would feel to pay upwards of 10$+ Shipping for this...then again not having a psychical copy of this for someone to stumble upon in your home actually might be a small mercy.

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I don't think there is anything worse than poorly drawn "sexy" women, you would think some of these artists would be more self aware, but then again it looks like he draws fur/animals better than people so that checks out :story:
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Well this is Ben Dunn’s baby. He was doing his poor man’s manga style and furry shit since the 80’s so, this is par for the course when it comes to him.
 
TrunksFromDragonballGT said:
Well this is Ben Dunn’s baby. He was doing his poor man’s manga style and furry shit since the 80’s so, this is par for the course when it comes to him.
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That would have been a red flag and nice to know if it had been on the cover, I thought I was getting the entire book written by Dixon, not half. Very sketchy to me if you are going to put this in shops and not have the other half of the creative team on the cover, but that is on me for not flipping through the book.
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Starscreams Cape said:
the handful of anti-CG'ers in here would probably be forced to admit that the industry has done just what I said. And like or hate CG, unlike other "Gates" they are actively trying to offer a concrete alternative rather than just "sperging" . With admittedly mixed results.
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Anti-cg were cgers who were driven off by wc's bullshit and the books being worse than the mainstream if they even arrive. But I was driven off due to wc and it just seemed like a mini version of the cgpros, the top 1 gets promoted and not deliver books while unpromoted books or those chase away due to egos are thriving without the baggage of faggots doxxing people and the constant drama of "WhOs LoYAl tO wHo?!?"
 
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Why is it that Ta-Nehisi Coates insists on being such a dumb motherfucker?
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Because in modern American comics you have no consequence of releasing shit since your real income is either leeching off of friends/lovers, or you just sit on your trust fund.

Modern American comics is a severed head only kept alive by the autojektor that is a bigger company willing to spend on a loss for eternity on it just because IP/pravda.
 
Looks like the ICONIC model is working.

Who would have thought great art and story (by all accounts) in hardcover format (for the same price as a CG floppy) shipped to the customer's door within days of purchase would be a winning strategy?

I admit I thought Ernst was leaving a tun of money on the table not doing an IGG campaign but it appears I was wrong.
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Maybe ignoring customer complaints and delivering a year or two late isn't a winning model after all.

Matt Weldon is fast.
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Lot's of talk about Ernst's successful launch outside the orthodox CG crowd but not a lot of CG faithful want to celebrate it seems.

Still JSG appears to be a fan.

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Looks like Punchline TPB's and Jack Posobiec's spy book are available through ICONIC now along with Ernst and Lim's catalogues.
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Hey @FROG, please make sure Snowman is proofread and edited to hell and back. The book looks great, so don't let these little errors slip by. This one's a freebie. ;)


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On his latest show, titled "Another boring livestream by me", Frog discussed his plans to appear on regular foil lolbertarian comic shop owner Dan Shahin's stream next week. This was not received with universal approval.

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Also, hitting newsstands nationwide across Canada tomorrow:

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Smug Freiza said:
Elliot Fernandez somehow conned Doug TenNapel to attach his name to this grift before he sperged out at Comicsgate that the book wasn't funded to an amount he desired. He then quit CG in a tard rage and shacked up with Smiller and the DnQ crowd. Last update was a month ago and he still doesn't post any progress, Comicsgate is probably better off without him
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This one is a debacle. Doug TenNapel told me over the phone that they were using this as a way to "Pitch to Netflix" and that they love receiving comics over there because they see it as a storyboard or something.

Doug then went on to tell me how annoyed he was at Elliot for not "promoting it correctly" because Elliot has as many followers on Instagram as @FROG does on YouTube. Doug failed to understand there is a HUGE difference between both platforms, let alone monetizing them.

Elliot then told me that he was annoyed with Doug because Doug, who at the time had another campaign open (it might have been the first EWJ, I don't remember), wasn't "promoting it correctly" and would only promote EWJ but never Doomkicker.

Along the way Doug told me he was leaving it all up to Elliot, and was no longer gonna take a cut of the money so Elliot could be paid more. When I was talking to Elliot about all this, he was telling me how he was gonna increase the book from the original 48 pages to 100+ pages. I told him that was dumb, because then his cost to print, his cot to ship, the cost of a letterer and colorist all go up, while he has to do OVER DOUBLE THE WORK for THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY WITH THE SAME ORIGINAL DEADLINE, and it went in one ear and out the other. He was like "I hear you man, but uhhh idk I think I should extend it." Then he was suddenly complaining to me that there was "No money to be made" from the campaign, and how he needed to find a day job to get by.

tl;dr both of them thought the other would promote it more, they only did this to pitch it to Netflix, and Elliot extended the book over double the size then complained about money.
 
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