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What's the deal with Cecil ? How did he join the crew ? EVS has alluded to him being wealthy in the past and I think EVS has a personality that draws him to wanting to roll in elite inner circles.

I just see Cecil as one of those off the wall friends we all have had in the past that is a clown and fun to be around but eventually get sick of them when U realise they just an annoying drunk that must try and up the bar in degeneracy to continue to garner attention.

How did he become such a staple of EVS show with zero comic creation experience?
I'm old enough to remember when Cecil promised that his already uber-late book would absolutely ship before the end of 2021. That's still the last update on the campaign page from Oct. 6. Only a couple weeks left.

This campaign wouldn't even exist if Frog hadn't encouraged it so he bares responsibility for this one too.
 
I'm old enough to remember when Cecil promised that his already uber-late book would absolutely ship before the end of 2021. That's still the last update on the campaign page from Oct. 6. Only a couple weeks left.

This campaign wouldn't even exist if Frog hadn't encouraged it so he bares responsibility for this one too.
I thought the Canon was that the book was never going to come out. That's the joke of it being called cash grab.

I don't think anyone actually back we d that project actually looking forward to the story . And even if they did I'm sure the whole character and premise has just gotten old now and most would be over it.

They really need to focus on pumping this comics out. Even EVS released one Cyberfrog comics and then created anthologies of the past and two seperate toy lines ... For a character that 90 percent of us have only had one taste of a short origin story.

He really should of at.least released 3 comics gotten the customer to get time to attach to the characters before releasing toys and anthology collections .

Let's face it myself included and most others have backed these campaigns based on the youtube personalities of those selling it rather then the need for the books themselves . Otherwise there is no way EVS could sell so many toys based on one character introduction comic.
 
@LeonidasTheSpartan:

Cecil started out as a light-hearted parody of YBZ's initial "Diversity in Comics" channel with "Diversity Inclusion Compassion Kindness (D.I.C.K) and Comics"
At least here we have some kind of structure for these skits and they weren't usually that long. Cecil was only good in little doses.

He inevitably wound up on Frog's stream which it must be said, Sciverfrog was not a big fan at first, but eventually warmed up to him judging by Cecil's popularity in chat: "Cecil is life!!!" for $20. Now he really is the last, uh, vestige of Ethan's CG 1.0 when it seemed like everyone who had a YT channel and was exclusively loyal to him were getting their very own comic book published. The only funny thing is about this whole charade is that over time we've seen him merge with his gay drunk loser "fake" persona (if was ever really fake to begin with). Now with Cash Grab, he's a swindler too.
 
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EVS has said on a stream last week that Cash Grab is finished, as he saw the book, but he doesnt know why it's not shipping yet. He also mentioned that if people would know who Cecil really is and what has he done in the past, it would shock you.
 
@LeonidasTheSpartan:

Cecil started out as a light-hearted parody of YBZ's initial "Diversity in Comics" channel with "Diversity Inclusion Compassion Kindness (D.I.C.K) and Comics"
At least here we have some kind of structure for these skits and they weren't usually that long. Cecil was only good in little doses.

He inevitably wound up on Frog's stream which it must be said, Sciverfrog was not a big fan at first, but eventually warmed up to him judging by Cecil's popularity in chat: "Cecil is life!!!" for $20. Now he really is the last, uh, vestige of Ethan's CG 1.0 when it seemed like everyone who had a YT channel and was exclusively loyal to him were getting their very own comic book published. The only funny thing is about this whole charade is that over time we've seen him merge with his gay drunk loser "fake" persona (if was ever really fake to begin with). Now with Cash Grab, he's a swindler too.
Oh shit.. this was actually entertaining ...

He Should of kept up with that persona and content. I have a feeling Cecil has fuck you money .. he is in no rush to release cash grab and he is in no rush to release another campaign. Everyone else that was around from his era panicked to release as many campaigns as they could to stay a float financially. I've never seen Cecil give a shit.

This is the only reason why he is still around. If you notice when Ethan reports back from weekend's away or shows he goes to he always emphasizes with excitement how close he got to sit to some gangster or old school mafia types . He really has a Hard on for and wanting to be in the cool click club. I believe there is more to Cecil then is let on and that's why he has never been kicked out of the crew regardless of his antics.

Notice how whenever Cecil acts degenerate. Absolutely normal people around him which are usually professional also stoop to his level to try and please him in a "look I'm just like you" type of manner.
 
EVS has said on a stream last week that Cash Grab is finished, as he saw the book, but he doesnt know why it's not shipping yet. He also mentioned that if people would know who Cecil really is and what has he done in the past, it would shock you.
Maybe he left fulfillment up to Donal?

Cecil went from high-roller financial something to couch surfing when he fell in with CG, ultimately getting kicked out by his own sister (unless those were all lies too).

Absolutely nobody who's spent any time on Kiwi Farms would be shocked by that path. It's literally why we come here.
 
Oh shit.. this was actually entertaining ...

He Should of kept up with that persona and content. I have a feeling Cecil has fuck you money .. he is in no rush to release cash grab and he is in no rush to release another campaign. Everyone else that was around from his era panicked to release as many campaigns as they could to stay a float financially. I've never seen Cecil give a shit.

This is the only reason why he is still around. If you notice when Ethan reports back from weekend's away or shows he goes to he always emphasizes with excitement how close he got to sit to some gangster or old school mafia types . He really has a Hard on for and wanting to be in the cool click club. I believe there is more to Cecil then is let on and that's why he has never been kicked out of the crew regardless of his antics.

Notice how whenever Cecil acts degenerate. Absolutely normal people around him which are usually professional also stoop to his level to try and please him in a "look I'm just like you" type of manner.
Cecil is still around because Ethan permits it. Because not only would it be a damaging admission that what remained of his first Scivergate offerings has crumbled, it would also alienate him from Anna (and therefore Fandumb Menace types), who Ethan tore out his own "heart" (War Campaign) for. Ethan is trapped until Cash Grab Ass arrives once dredged from the South China Sea where it resides currently. I'm absolutely certain the combined mega talents from Scivergate's pigpen will awe their critics into submission though! No doubt!
 
At this point, Cecil is more of a detriment to CG than someone who actually adds to the movement. People are very pissed off that he hasn’t delivered on his book and every time he jokes about it, it falls flat. It’s gotten to the point where no one on Ethan’s show even mentions Cash Grab anymore cuz of the bad feelings it stirs up.
 
At this point, Cecil is more of a detriment to CG than someone who actually adds to the movement. People are very pissed off that he hasn’t delivered on his book and every time he jokes about it, it falls flat. It’s gotten to the point where no one on Ethan’s show even mentions Cash Grab anymore cuz of the bad feelings it stirs up.
This is definitely not EVS fault, he was just trying to help people out and promote their books and then they did him wrong, the effect non fulfilment did to EVS pride and honour is worse then the loss of money to the customer.
This is also not Cecils fault either, because he definitely didn't hide his degeneracy always hiding behind a mask.

T he fault lies directly at any idiot who thought it was funny to encourage Cecil the clowns antics and also give him money knowing full well he is an anonymous degenerate. Cecils next move should be emailing the Cash Grab email list claiming he is a Nigerian prince with an inheritance to give to them that crowd is so gullible.

We all have to remember what the stereotypical comics collector looks and acts like, its would of been easy to part them with money with a few jester tricks to distract them. What are they going to do if Cecil doesn't fulfil? they probably can barely get their fat asses off their chair, put their pants and xxxl salmandroid t-shirt on after sitting their naked jerking off over annas calendar and walk up the stairs from their mothers basement to do anything about it.
 
This is definitely not EVS fault, he was just trying to help people out and promote their books and then they did him wrong, the effect non fulfilment did to EVS pride and honour is worse then the loss of money to the customer.
This is also not Cecils fault either, because he definitely didn't hide his degeneracy always hiding behind a mask.

T he fault lies directly at any idiot who thought it was funny to encourage Cecil the clowns antics and also give him money knowing full well he is an anonymous degenerate. Cecils next move should be emailing the Cash Grab email list claiming he is a Nigerian prince with an inheritance to give to them that crowd is so gullible.

We all have to remember what the stereotypical comics collector looks and acts like, its would of been easy to part them with money with a few jester tricks to distract them. What are they going to do if Cecil doesn't fulfil? they probably can barely get their fat asses off their chair, put their pants and xxxl salmandroid t-shirt on after sitting their naked jerking off over annas calendar and walk up the stairs from their mothers basement to do anything about it.

you have a point there. He did tell people from the get go that they weren’t getting their book. They just thought he was joking…
 
EVS has alluded to him being wealthy in the past and I think EVS has a personality that draws him to wanting to roll in elite inner circles.
He also mentioned that if people would know who Cecil really is and what has he done in the past, it would shock you.
He Should of kept up with that persona and content. I have a feeling Cecil has fuck you money .. he is in no rush to release cash grab and he is in no rush to release another campaign. Everyone else that was around from his era panicked to release as many campaigns as they could to stay a float financially. I've never seen Cecil give a shit.
I don't know anything about Cecil that isn't already public knowledge in this thread, but based on the way he talks about finances and some of the terminology he uses, I wouldn't be surprised if he was involved in investment banking. He was able to deduce Preston's financial situation based on very little information with surprising accuracy and was easily able to explain the function of a staggered trust and why someone like Preston would be eligible for it. You'll notice every time money is brought up Cecil immediately drops the drunken schtick and adopts this aloof, almost imperious demeanor. That's what it looks like when someone is trying and failing to hide their power level. I doubt he's actually all that wealthy, but he's certainly smarter than he lets on.
Notice how whenever Cecil acts degenerate. Absolutely normal people around him which are usually professional also stoop to his level to try and please him in a "look I'm just like you" type of manner.
I wouldn't read too much into this. Cecil is seen as a social measuring bar within CG, as he's edgy enough to be at the forefront of any envelope-pushing but also safe enough to appear alongside the pros and discuss serious topics. When CG'ers see Cecil do or say some new degenerate thing, they go "oh, I guess that's okay now."
 
I don't know anything about Cecil that isn't already public knowledge in this thread, but based on the way he talks about finances and some of the terminology he uses, I wouldn't be surprised if he was involved in investment banking. He was able to deduce Preston's financial situation based on very little information with surprising accuracy and was easily able to explain the function of a staggered trust and why someone like Preston would be eligible for it. You'll notice every time money is brought up Cecil immediately drops the drunken schtick and adopts this aloof, almost imperious demeanor. That's what it looks like when someone is trying and failing to hide their power level. I doubt he's actually all that wealthy, but he's certainly smarter than he lets on.
Even before reading your post I was remembering either he or Frog talking about how he was a Wall Street guy or something like that but had a fall from grace. But I wasn't sure if I was remembering that correctly or how much of it was just kayfabe. Clearly "Cecil" is a character to some degree and he's got some degree of cleverness under the mask. Until and unless he slips under the radar it's probably just a matter of time before he's docksed so we'll probably figure it out soon enough.
 
Even before reading your post I was remembering either he or Frog talking about how he was a Wall Street guy or something like that but had a fall from grace. But I wasn't sure if I was remembering that correctly or how much of it was just kayfabe. Clearly "Cecil" is a character to some degree and he's got some degree of cleverness under the mask. Until and unless he slips under the radar it's probably just a matter of time before he's docksed so we'll probably figure it out soon enough.
Forget about dox, thats when people go to far.. the word for it is unmasked. Has he ever been unmasked and Im just out of the loop and the last one to hear about this?
I don't follow the ins and out of what goes on in the shadows of CG, I would of assumed with the last two years of in fighting, law suits and splinter groups someone would of made it their mission to unmask the true identity of Cecil.

I didn't back Cash Grab, but there is $300k worth of customers that did.. If i was a customer I would want to know the actual identity of who took my money and snorted it up their nose off a degenerates whores tits while i sit here and wait for a comic book in return.

Im not saying personal details, but shouldn't the customer know the face and name of the person that is currently living free off 300k of their hard earned cash with nothing in return?

Maybe the people who have found out his identity are too scared to release it once they know. or maybe I'm looking into it too much.
 
I don't know anything about Cecil that isn't already public knowledge in this thread, but based on the way he talks about finances and some of the terminology he uses, I wouldn't be surprised if he was involved in investment banking. He was able to deduce Preston's financial situation based on very little information with surprising accuracy and was easily able to explain the function of a staggered trust and why someone like Preston would be eligible for it.
I think you guys are missing the forest for the trees: the answer that makes the most sense is that Cecil is also a trust fund baby like Preston, which is why he was able to sus out Poulter's financial arrangement so quickly.
 
The only person who actually delivers when they say they are going to is Nassar, the rest of them have mistaken customers for their friends.

I know I haven't delivered your comic, but hey check out my new car
I know I haven't delivered your comic, but hey i got a new pool
I know I haven't delivered your comic, but hey check out these photos of me gambling in Vegas
I know I haven't delivered your comic, but hey i just went on a weekend piss up trip with Anna and Nick Rekita with your money.
I know I haven't delivered your comic, but hey don't you want to buy my toys
I know I haven't delivered your comic, but hey check out my new warehouse.
I know I haven't delivered your comic, but hey buy my friends books that I'm publishing.
I know I haven't delivered your comic, but aren't I funny drunk on stream.

It was ok for a while, because it was a start up business, most people were happy to contribute to this upstart as these creators get off the ground, however right now Cecil is taking the piss, and All Caps Comics is a fully fledged company that publishes many creators, no longer a startup in a garage.. Its time to start elevating us the e-friends that helped All Caps become what it is and start treating these people better then friends, but as Customers.

You wouldn't be happy if you paid a plumber to fix your sink and all he did was rock up and show you photos of the new house you paid for and next thing you know your plumbing is still not fixed , your house is flooding but he rocks up with his friends the roofer and concreter trying to get them work as well.
 
I think you guys are missing the forest for the trees: the answer that makes the most sense is that Cecil is also a trust fund baby like Preston, which is why he was able to sus out Poulter's financial arrangement so quickly.
This is very, very possible. The only thing that gives me pause is that this explanation doesn't explain Frog's vague allusions to Cecil having some kind of prolific career IRL.
Frog once said something along the lines of "if you guys knew what Cecil really did you wouldn't be worried about the money you spent on Cashgrab."
To be fair, this could be interpreted a few ways. Frog could be saying "Cecil is so rich he wouldn't bother stealing from you guys", but I interpreted it as "Cecil knows how to handle money and he won't mishandle yours."
Come to think of it, Cecil has gone on some incredibly venomous rants about trust fund kids and his disdain for them. Once again, this could be interpreted several ways.
Either he's tired of working with them, or he's coping with some Hitler-tier self loathing. We're talking about a man who refers to his own genitalia as a "handful of fucking garbage" so anything's possible.
 
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This is very, very possible. The only thing that gives me pause is that this explanation doesn't explain Frog's vague allusions to Cecil having some kind of prolific career IRL.
Frog once said something along the lines of "if you guys knew what Cecil really did you wouldn't be worried about the money you spent on Cashgrab."
To be fair, this could be interpreted a few ways. Frog could be saying "Cecil is so rich he wouldn't bother stealing from you guys", but I interpreted it as "Cecil knows how to handle money and he won't mishandle yours."
Come to think of it, Cecil has gone on some incredibly venomous rants about trust fund kids and his disdain for them. Once again, this could be interpreted several ways.
Either he's tired of working with them, or he's coping with some Hitler-tier self loathing. We're talking about a man who refers to his own genitalia as a "handful of fucking garbage" so anything's possible.
Even though I speak critical of EVS on some issues. He is an actual gentleman and I believe he is starting to get pissed about Cash Grab no being fulfilled as he feels responsibility for selling this crap to his customers .

EVS heart has always been in the right place while everyone had taken their time to shit on him for it by not respecting their obligations back to him.

He would have to be pissed at Cecil at this point now.

Can anyone give me the low down on EVS and YBZ obvious break up.. I have never seen EVS mention him again since he was hyping up publishing Zack which I heard fell through.

Is Zack now part of the long list of ppl that have shit on EVS goodwill club.
 
Even though I speak critical of EVS on some issues. He is an actual gentleman and I believe he is starting to get pissed about Cash Grab no being fulfilled as he feels responsibility for selling this crap to his customers .

EVS heart has always been in the right place while everyone had taken their time to shit on him for it by not respecting their obligations back to him.

He would have to be pissed at Cecil at this point now.

Can anyone give me the low down on EVS and YBZ obvious break up.. I have never seen EVS mention him again since he was hyping up publishing Zack which I heard fell through.

Is Zack now part of the long list of ppl that have shit on EVS goodwill club.
Even if we take the least charitable interpretation possible and assume purely selfish motivations, he should STILL be mad at the tards shipping a year late if at all, because it reflects poorly on him and his brand, and actively works to ruin what he’s trying to build.
 
Even though I speak critical of EVS on some issues. He is an actual gentleman and I believe he is starting to get pissed about Cash Grab no being fulfilled as he feels responsibility for selling this crap to his customers .

EVS heart has always been in the right place while everyone had taken their time to shit on him for it by not respecting their obligations back to him.

He would have to be pissed at Cecil at this point now.

Can anyone give me the low down on EVS and YBZ obvious break up.. I have never seen EVS mention him again since he was hyping up publishing Zack which I heard fell through.

Is Zack now part of the long list of ppl that have shit on EVS goodwill club.

can you explain why it fell through?
 
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