#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[Steinercard]

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Well, she sounds like a dumb teenager. Inb4 she makes some retarded post about how she's "freeing myself of all the toxic men, live love life."

I am very amused by this long standing thot war between two sisters. It's like Dante vs Vergil. But even more autistic.


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Anna has fake tits confirmed?

Spoiler

still would.

 

[TESTEFY-HD]

As much as I'd like to believe one of my memes placed in a private Discord server had the power to single handedly destroy Cider's campaign, everyone with an ounce of intelligence knows you were an albatross around Cider's neck and the single biggest thing fucking his campaign.

You're so narcissistic you have no idea how despised you are by mainstream CG.

Anyone within your orbit gets stained with your taint and thus will never be taken seriously by mainstream CG. You failed Cider, just like you failed your son Tanner.

Randall Gary Hegg, you are a mockery of a man and a blight upon CG.

You don't buy any CG books.

No one said your meme single handedly destroyed cider's campaign. Your meme's are shit.

Good Morning #COMICSGATE!

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

Anyone who didn’t stop reading comics after the “Death” of Superman is an autist.

 

[Newman's Lovechild]

He gripes about people encouraging him to go on livestreams, he doesn't like them, and really, he feels they didn't help him.

"One of my backers told me I should go on livestreams to promote my books. But he already watches my videos where I promote my books!"

The rest of the video had me holding my head in my hands too.

Anyone who didn’t stop reading comics after the “Death” of Superman is an autist.

Ah look, isn't it cute? It tries to bite if you poke it.

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

"One of my backers told me I should go on livestreams to promote my books. But he already watches my videos where I promote my books!"

The rest of the video had me holding my head in my hands too.



Ah look, isn't it cute? It tries to bite if you poke it.

You probably bought the Hulk books. Probably Marvel Zombies too. Disturbing!

 

[jspit2.0]

"One of my backers told me I should go on livestreams to promote my books. But he already watches my videos where I promote my books!"

The rest of the video had me holding my head in my hands too.

At this point he's gone a full 180 degrees. Remember his reaction to B Clay Moore's late kickstarter?

Anyone who didn’t stop reading comics after the “Death” of Superman is an autist.

You probably bought the Hulk books. Probably Marvel Zombies too. Disturbing!

Ah look, isn't it cute? It tries to bite if you poke it.

Hulk...books?

Hulk books have been published since the 1960s kid. Long before the Death of Superman.

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

At this point he's gone a full 180 degrees. Remember his reaction to B Clay Moore's late kickstarter?






Hulk...books?

Hulk books have been published since the 1960s kid. Long before the Death of Superman.

You know I mean when Iron Man and Co shot him into space and he landed in faggot world and came back and made it a whole thing. That’s literally the only time Hulk did anything.

 

[Analog Devolved]

Fuck it, lets go.

ComicartistPRO Secrets

For those of you unaware, Ethan Van Sciver ran a tremendous six hour live stream for Norah's Saga, a book by the people who took 200,000 dollars of backer money and failed to keep any promise made to backers. On the stream were employees of Allegiance Arts.

Currently, Norah sits at 34 grand; most of which was the result of Frog pushing the people who defrauded his audience.

Apparently someone, somewhere said something about not backing Allegiance products. Which caused Simple Zach to drop an incredibly condescending, out of touch scolder video.

Simple Zach begins as is his wont by meandering around unrelatedly. It's simultaneously impressive and mind blowing that after half a decade he hasn't evolved or improved at all. Simple Zach eventually gets to his point after a minute. He gripes about people encouraging him to go on livestreams, he doesn't like them, and really, he feels they didn't help him.

This is false. Livestreams, Twitter, and other forms of engagement have a tremendous impact. We saw this with Damegang, Zenotype, Trixie and countless other campaigns that the right signal boost can make all the difference in funding. Richard just doesn't appreciate that because Frog has been doing that for him...

Simple Zach proceeds to give a...less than accurate description of events. He essentially makes it sounds as if it was an either or Wal-Mart. For those of us who possess the power of memory this will sound familiar. Its because it was essentially what Mike S Miller tried to do...

Simple Zach then chides people for getting angry and not backing a subsequent project the Saints, stating that he doesn't really care if a project he backs his late, or even delivers? This sounds more like he doesn't back campaigns for the actual book?

After another non-sequitur into movie theaters being over, Simple Zach transitions back. He actually says that the book is YA, not his thing. But he was worried it was going to get rejected and was pleased when it didn't. For Simple Zach, the connection that Kelsey Shannon has built relationships with other people via Livestreams and that he promoted on a Livestream is too much for the Simple One to connect the dots...


Frog then ran a stream where he talked at a video of Richard the SIMPle because he's such a good friend and ally he'll refuse to even come on a stream to have a conversation with you.

Dickie's video seems to frustrate Frog, who attempts to correct the many contradictory and condescending things noted above. It's hard to feel sorry though, as Frog gushes over Simple Zach, playing a Culture Warz video the Simple one made about a Marvel book receiving criticism. For those of you with the super power of memory, Frog praising Simple Zach as a culture warrior is odd as first and foremost a culture warrior has to actually acknowledge culture as valuable and worth fighting over. Which, Simple Zach made a video where he stated the exact opposite last year...

Van Sciver helping out his boy Mitch. One professional scam artist hooking up another. Fuck both of those niggers.

YBZ is a fucking joke. I've been saying and taking my negrates because it's true. Ethan is going to carry Zack for years to come because Ethan is extremely loyal to people who do his dirty work. The way Ethan sees it Zack saved his career when SJWs had him cornered.

Note the only "friends" Ethan has are either anonymous like Cecil, or shady as FUCK.

Mitch Breitweiser? Gtfo with that faggot ass nigger.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

At this point he's gone a full 180 degrees. Remember his reaction to B Clay Moore's late kickstarter?

It's all so baffling. Even yesterday when Frog was talking about Mitch's livestream it was obvious they have zero respect for him. Why bail them out? Again, if Kelsey's in trouble then cut that dude a check or at least hold a fundraiser just for him.

Is it possible that Frog was sandbagged and didn't know this was going to be an Allegiance Arts/Breitweister campaign instead of a Kelsey campaign? He did seem a bit thrown when Kelsey brought on that Cat B person to actually launch the campaign. Can't be though, I'm just baffled by it all.

Also, why hasn't anyone asked about the status of the walmart deal? It has to be dead and this campaign is the only way "fans" can get the remaining chapters, right?

 

[jspit2.0]

You know I mean when Iron Man and Co shot him into space and he landed in faggot world and came back and made it a whole thing. That’s literally the only time Hulk did anything.

It's like 50 plus years of history! Of course I don't know that. Also Todd McFarlane, John Byrne, Dale Kewon? Kid, read some comics or use google.

It's all so baffling. Even yesterday when Frog was talking about Mitch's livestream it was obvious they have zero respect for him. Why bail them out? Again, if Kelsey's in trouble then cut that dude a check or at least hold a fundraiser just for him.

Is it possible that Frog was sandbagged and didn't know this was going to be an Allegiance Arts/Breitweister campaign instead of a Kelsey campaign? He did seem a bit thrown when Kelsey brought on that Cat B person to actually launch the campaign. Can't be though, I'm just baffled by it all.

Also, why hasn't anyone asked about the status of the walmart deal? It has to be dead and this campaign is the only way "fans" can get the remaining chapters, right?

Come on. Norah's Saga is an Allegiance project with Black Northcott. Frog knew.

Also, I feel like your trying to throw him a lifeline. Stop.

This is all it is. Kelsey went all in on Allegiance and chose to do six comics worth of work with a group that actively disowned CG. Because he plays a likable fuckwit, people want to give him a pass and you damn well know Mitch et al are going to try to use him as the public face for that reason that people won't hold him accountable. Frog has been doing just that. Kelsey's an innocent butterfly! Never mind that he's a grown ass man who chose who he teamed up with....

Not that I don't understand, hell. No one has paid 500$ for a 'date' with this as of yet

But I think Cecil and the pathetic coomers might actually give Allegiance a liver if it was a date with Blake.

 

[A nameless trool]

You have to understand it's still a coup. It'd be like me going on a bunch of forums talking about this super cool game idea I have. I just need people to make it for me. But btw I also got John Carmack working for me. That's what happened with Zack. He's just a retard with an idea. To his credit he did a couple mediocre comics before. But he suddenly gets Chuck Dixon and the fucking Expendables license. Whilst still being a mongoloid. And now he's back to man with an idea he's being exposed.

Might be an unpopular opinion, but The Expendables is not that great of a franchise to begin with. Yes, it is nostalgia bait for 80s and 90s kids but nothing impressive.
Sly basically needed someone he trusted (Chuck Dixon) to publish him a comic to keep the franchise alive while in development hell and Sixon knew YBJ who could market and publish it. Looking at the tie-ins IDW and Boom is doing you can see that it was nothing exceptional.
Jawbreakers and Iron Sights may be a more prosperous franchise for YBZ, especially if he can get an agent and pitch them around once the SJW mania dies down (which probasbly will before Bidden) or when he realizes how to make them optimal for profit by foregoing IGG and using Amazon or Shoppify.

PS: I am certain EVS promotes Norah's Saga as a favour to Kelsey, not the Breitweissers. That bridge is burned

 

[Analog Devolved]

Might be an unpopular opinion, but The Expendables is not that great of a franchise to begin with. Yes, it is nostalgia bait for 80s and 90s kids but nothing impressive.
Sly basically needed someone he trusted (Chuck Dixon) to publish him a comic to keep the franchise alive while in development hell and Sixon knew YBJ who could market and publish it. Looking at the tie-ins IDW and Boom is doing you can see that it was nothing exceptional.
Jawbreakers and Iron Sights may be a more prosperous franchise for YBZ, especially if he can get an agent and pitch them around once the SJW mania dies down (which probasbly will before Bidden) or when he realizes how to make them optimal for profit by foregoing IGG and using Amazon or Shoppify.

PS: I am certain EVS promotes Norah's Saga as a favour to Kelsey, not the Breitweissers. That bridge is burned

Fuck Kelsey, he was warned about Mitch and his horrible business and still chose his own fate. The way I see it Kelsey is a bitch made faggot that needs van scivers wang up his arse because that fucking worthless retard mitch fucked up so bad that kelsey can't pay his bills or he can't pay kelsey whatever the reason I thought Mitch had investors?

Lmao that investor money is long gone everyone involved is fucked.

 

[Miniluv]

Might be an unpopular opinion, but The Expendables is not that great of a franchise to begin with. Yes, it is nostalgia bait for 80s and 90s kids but nothing impressive.

Yes, but it's a major coup for Zack, both personally and professionally. Personally because Expendables is right in Zack's wheelhouse of muscular soldiers blowing stuff up and sweating on each other. Those movies are some of the very few he can watch longer than 5 minutes at a time. If you've ever seen his reviews of the movies you can tell he's extremely excited by them and seems to know about The Expendables "lore", whatever that is.

It's a professional coup because there's no way Meyer should be able to get within sniffing distance of a Hollywood property or Stallone in a professional capacity. He's a fucking ADHD sped who made his name sitting in his car yelling about comics and trannies and cum dumpsters. He went on national television with a mongoloid haircut and got completely fucking embarrassed by Jim Jefferies. Zack is the living avatar of failing upward.

PS: I am certain EVS promotes Norah's Saga as a favour to Kelsey, not the Breitweissers. That bridge is burned

IIRC, on the last Kings stream someone asked if EVS would welcome Mitch back into the CG family and Ethan said something to the effect of "That just seems sort of 'meh' to me". This was exactly one night before the Norah stream.

 

[jspit2.0]

Yes, but it's a major coup for Zack, both personally and professionally. Personally because Expendables is right in Zack's wheelhouse of muscular soldiers blowing stuff up and sweating on each other. Those movies are some of the very few he can watch longer than 5 minutes at a time. If you've ever seen his reviews of the movies you can tell he's extremely excited by them and seems to know about The Expendables "lore", whatever that is.

It's a professional coup because there's no way Meyer should be able to get within sniffing distance of a Hollywood property or Stallone in a professional capacity. He's a fucking ADHD sped who made his name sitting in his car yelling about comics and trannies and cum dumpsters. He went on national television with a mongoloid haircut and got completely fucking embarrassed by Jim Jefferies. Zack is the living avatar of failing upward.


IIRC, on the last Kings stream someone asked if EVS would welcome Mitch back into the CG family and Ethan said something to the effect of "That just seems sort of 'meh' to me". This was exactly one night before the Norah stream.

But that's a false either or. It's like saying it was honor your IGG or Wal-Mart.

Kelsey can have his own project. He didn't. This is an Allegiance Arts project!

Like I said, Mitch and company can use Kelsey as their lovable fuckup front.

 

[A nameless trool]

Yes, but it's a major coup for Zack, both personally and professionally. Personally because Expendables is right in Zack's wheelhouse of muscular soldiers blowing stuff up and sweating on each other. Those movies are some of the very few he can watch longer than 5 minutes at a time. If you've ever seen his reviews of the movies you can tell he's extremely excited by them and seems to know about The Expendables "lore", whatever that is.

It's a professional coup because there's no way Meyer should be able to get within sniffing distance of a Hollywood property or Stallone in a professional capacity. He's a fucking ADHD sped who made his name sitting in his car yelling about comics and trannies and cum dumpsters. He went on national television with a mongoloid haircut and got completely fucking embarrassed by Jim Jefferies. Zack is the living avatar of failing upward.


IIRC, on the last Kings stream someone asked if EVS would welcome Mitch back into the CG family and Ethan said something to the effect of "That just seems sort of 'meh' to me". This was exactly one night before the Norah stream.

He made Defenders Going Expendables in Jawbreakers and Rambo 5 before Rambo 5 in Iron Sights. He was the person to do Expendables.

And he can sell those dumb projects.

That being said, he was late, not sure if the book was good, mediocre or bad. My money is on mediocre as most of his earlier work (IS2 was shit though, have read nothing of his since G0dK1ng because of cost. If he sold his comics as digitals on comicsology for a reasonable price I might have given 499 a chance)

His main problem imho is overthinking his projects. He would do well to get a hint from Marvel, sit down, write a script in a day, do a quick edit and then ship it out and start working on the next one. Maybe get an editor to tell him where he went wrong and what to fix. But putting pressure on himself as a self-publisher would make him efficient and force him to make the best out of what he has.
His mistakes are lack of experience together with "as long as the money roll in you can do no wrong" syndrome that make him churn out any dumb idea he has. If he did a run of Jawbreakers, 20 pages out a month for a year, he might have been able to get a good comic out.

 

[Miniluv]

He made Defenders Going Expendables in Jawbreakers and Rambo 5 before Rambo 5 in Iron Sights. He was the person to do Expendables.

And he can sell those dumb projects.

That being said, he was late, not sure if the book was good, mediocre or bad. My money is on mediocre as most of his earlier work (IS2 was shit though, have read nothing of his since G0dK1ng because of cost. If he sold his comics as digitals on comicsology for a reasonable price I might have given 499 a chance)

Zack wasn't really responsible for much of the writing on the Expendables book. He wrote one of the subplots but the bulk of the writing was left to Dixon. What Zack was primarily responsible for was the marketing of the book, and ultimately its clusterfuck of a fulfillment. Zack was pretty consistent in that he didn't give Expendables any special consideration just because it was a Hollywood property with a legitimate star attached to it. He did the same minimal marketing and late fulfillment he does for all his books.

His main problem imho is overthinking his projects. He would do well to get a hint from Marvel, sit down, write a script in a day, do a quick edit and then ship it out and start working on the next one. Maybe get an editor to tell him where he went wrong and what to fix. But putting pressure on himself as a self-publisher would make him efficient and force him to make the best out of what he has.
His mistakes are lack of experience together with "as long as the money roll in you can do no wrong" syndrome that make him churn out any dumb idea he has. If he did a run of Jawbreakers, 20 pages out a month for a year, he might have been able to get a good comic out.

We all know Zack can't focus on one thing at a time and he never takes advice from anyone, even if it's sound counsel coming from a place of experience. Your idea seems elementary for almost anyone else, but it's highly optimistic to believe Zack would be able to 1) sit down and manage to write an entire script over the course of 24 hours without being distracted by the sound of a lawnmower and 2) to actually listen to an editor.

If the pressure of having so many unfulfilled projects at once didn't spur his efficiency or make the best out of what he has (like maybe shipping that stuff before trying to fund another crackhead campaign) I'm not sure anything really would.

But this is all moot anyhow as Zack's money continues to roll in with no end in sight. The ratio of Zacktards to normal customers is skewed in his favor and he has absolutely zero reason to believe he's doing anything wrong. Remember, the last time his campaigns saw a significant decline in backers he proclaimed the death of crowdfunding instead of asking what he could be doing differently. Zack has zero capacity for self reflection when it comes to his business and as long as the paypigs keep giving him $75k twice a year, he will keep on doing his Zack thing.

 

[Analog Devolved]

Zack wasn't really responsible for much of the writing on the Expendables book. He wrote one of the subplots but the bulk of the writing was left to Dixon. What Zack was primarily responsible for was the marketing of the book, and ultimately its clusterfuck of a fulfillment. Zack was pretty consistent in that he didn't give Expendables any special consideration just because it was a Hollywood property with a legitimate star attached to it. He did the same minimal marketing and late fulfillment he does for all his books.


We all know Zack can't focus on one thing at a time and he never takes advice from anyone, even if it's sound counsel coming from a place of experience. Your idea seems elementary for almost anyone else, but it's highly optimistic to believe Zack would be able to 1) sit down and manage to write an entire script over the course of 24 hours without being distracted by the sound of a lawnmower and 2) to actually listen to an editor.

If the pressure of having so many unfulfilled projects at once didn't spur his efficiency or make the best out of what he has (like maybe shipping that stuff before trying to fund another crackhead campaign) I'm not sure anything really would.

But this is all moot anyhow as Zack's money continues to roll in with no end in sight. The ratio of Zacktards to normal customers is skewed in his favor and he has absolutely zero reason to believe he's doing anything wrong. Remember, the last time his campaigns saw a significant decline in backers he proclaimed the death of crowdfunding instead of asking what he could be doing differently. Zack has zero capacity for self reflection when it comes to his business and as long as the paypigs keep giving him $75k twice a year, he will keep on doing his Zack thing.

It's what happens when you're famous on the internet and ass kissing sycophants tells you you're great and plastic surgeons buy you comics.

He has completely lost touch with what made him popular in the first place. He has the worst customer relations I've ever seen.

TL;DR He's become what he hates most. A comics pro.

 

[Ike Aim]

Anna has fake tits confirmed?

Not that there aren't pre-boob job pics (there are some even in this thread), but it was pretty obvious once she started putting those big hard balls of silicone in everyone's faces for the calendar. I don't think it would have come up with the non- e-thot internet career she had before. She had the quirky Genuine Geek Girl™ thing down pretty solidly and was rather easy on the eyes to boot. Now it's "LUL Simps, Rite Girls?" with Chrissie I-Just-Watched-The-Star-War-Gib-YouTube-Channel Mayr every week and "buy my booby calendar" shilling for half the year at least from here on out. This is a summoning of metaphysical forces that the universe must inevitably counter...

But I think Cecil and the pathetic coomers might actually give Allegiance a liver if it was a date with Blake.

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If only you could fix a bad hairline with plucked eyebrows...

/misogyny

 

[A nameless trool]

We all know Zack can't focus on one thing at a time and he never takes advice from anyone, even if it's sound counsel coming from a place of experience. Your idea seems elementary for almost anyone else, but it's highly optimistic to believe Zack would be able to 1) sit down and manage to write an entire script over the course of 24 hours without being distracted by the sound of a lawnmower and 2) to actually listen to an editor.

If the pressure of having so many unfulfilled projects at once didn't spur his efficiency or make the best out of what he has (like maybe shipping that stuff before trying to fund another crackhead campaign) I'm not sure anything really would.

But this is all moot anyhow as Zack's money continues to roll in with no end in sight. The ratio of Zacktards to normal customers is skewed in his favor and he has absolutely zero reason to believe he's doing anything wrong. Remember, the last time his campaigns saw a significant decline in backers he proclaimed the death of crowdfunding instead of asking what he could be doing differently. Zack has zero capacity for self reflection when it comes to his business and as long as the paypigs keep giving him $75k twice a year, he will keep on doing his Zack thing.

I would agree, but then again Zack managed to maintain a career in IT for years. So I doubt he is unable to focus and do his job. It is more like him trying to be a Kitchen Nightmares Chef instead of paying his dues as a burger flipper like the pros he admits have gained their place in the industry.
He is the guy who complains that Superheroes no longer hunt a guy who stole a TV but has zero interest in doing that kind of story in a Jawbreakers book because "it is not interesting and I want to tell big stories".
He still has enablers though but he is noticing they are decreasing gradually. His metric for success is "1000 people will buy any shit I put out" and he is almost hitting that number which leads to a lot of sperging.
He is also isolated in the middle of nowhere, so he does a lot of his thinking by throwing shit against the youtube wall and sees what sticks, this is what I believe leads to a lot of his big-brained takes.

What is, to me, a redeeming trait of YBZ is that he is willing to admit he was wrong. Still, not much of a trait to admire, but in the comicbook industry and its youtube offshoot few people are willing to do so.
And he can occasionally do a video like the Daredevil Christmas one where you can just hear how much he loves comics and get you loving comics too. Which is not what a lot of CG is doing, instead it is a cult of personalities and 2-minute-hate agains esjaydubyous

 

[Pilule Noire]

Van Sciver helping out his boy Mitch. One professional scam artist hooking up another. Fuck both of those niggers.

YBZ is a fucking joke. I've been saying and taking my negrates because it's true. Ethan is going to carry Zack for years to come because Ethan is extremely loyal to people who do his dirty work. The way Ethan sees it Zack saved his career when SJWs had him cornered.

Note the only "friends" Ethan has are either anonymous like Cecil, or shady as FUCK.

Mitch Breitweiser? Gtfo with that faggot ass nigger.

Guys please remember, @FROG is still lurking and skulking around the farms and this thread, so let's try and keep it respectful huh? Everything we post here is likely still going right into his eyes.

The latest Frog news is that he's gonna cry, when he finishes his comic, as he explains above.

He's worried this will be such a low-T moment for him, that he will need to juice up on T-pills to get himself through it.

But to you Frog, I say:

Instead, I have a vastly better idea!

You can give yourself a natural T-boost by emulating your idol, Todd McFarlane, and removing your top to make the speech toplessly:

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