#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[verissimus]

First I've heard of this. LOLsuits incoming?

Preston Poulter Trademarks Comicsgate

archived 22 Apr 2020 16:50:18 UTC

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What even is the point of trademarking that crap? Does it honestly matter at this point?

 

[Mister Dongs]

Interested to see where this goes though. Will Liam call Mitch out or try to excuse his shitty customer relations?

Liam tried to phone Allegiance Arts but their publicly listed contact phone number has been disconnected. Then they hunted down Kelsey Shannon to see if they could get Mitch's contact info that way. But Kelsey hasn't heard from Mitch in several weeks either so that was a dead end also. After that it was a circumspect condemnation until I asked what was the difference between a "no contact PR policy" and a blockbot that pre-blocks all possible customers? Then things got rolling.

Still, with no other programming planned, there was some skirting around the validity of refunding Mandy Summers' "Wart the Wizard", and around when Liam was just starting to comment on something questionable about its quality, the Preston Poulter copyrighting thing was dumped and everything else was dropped as Liam vowed to fight to see Poulter be sent into the poor house or something.
Then Ro came on to discuss none of that, ominously cautioned Liam that 'saying you'll take someone's money away could be interpreted as a threat' in a way that I don't think anyone else picked up on, ordered the chat to buy Vestige before leaving on correcting the chat that "TUG is not a simp, TUG is a cuck!" followed by a belly laugh.
Then TUG showed up to discuss the Poulter trademark and move past the Ro thing, falling back on his own experience in frivolous trademarking when he did so with "Renfamous". However this was interrupted by Liam's co-host who ambushed TUG on his use of personal information and innuendo to try and blackmail critics into silence, the practice of which TUG greasily defended over the course of an hour.

 

[Newman's Own]

I ordered Bigfoot Bill 1, and honestly I wasn't that impressed. It was a bit of a kid's book. The art was okay, the writing was cringy. I read it once and said to myself "this is a beautiful looking book that I will only read once". And that was before he started to hilariously sperg about "Comicsgay". Back when he was a bit likable in a roguish way.

As for "going after", Doug is such a loathsome creature you need only read his "religious right" tweets and watch his videos to come to that conclusion. Why do you think Cecil's "Smugless" character rubbed him so raw? It's pretty much spot on.

How very virtuous to pass judgement on Doug for his religion. Moralizing about Doug's religious convictions as those of a "loathsome creature" is rather funny considering the righteous indignation doesn't extend to Cecil the guy who sings incest rape songs while moralizing that Doug's opinions are disgusting.

Tell me all more about your support the LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ community against evil right wingers like Doug and Mike.

I went to the library and took out all the Tennaple books I could reserve before backing BFB.

Reading them I realized BFB was likely to be a very kid friendly all ages book. But the writing on all Doug's previous books was very good. He writes compelling heartfelt morality tales/adventures with fantastical characters. His grasp of story structure, pacing and graphic story telling is very high level.

So I bought BFB and thought it was good, if a little to short. BFB and his other works (most notably Cardboard) were well done and I had no problem buying EWJ and shelling out the extra for the making of book and was not disappointed. On the contrary not only was the book worth more than the price for the story and quality printing/binding but the extras were all fantastic and over delivered on. It's rare that you make a purchase and on receipt of goods feel you got a value far in excess of what was promised.

So far the CG books have been disappointing or mediocre at best (not justifying the high price tag) for me. I like Mitch's art so I backed RR to my regret. Story wise what I got in the PDF was less than attention grabbing. I backed the impenetrable story telling mess of Earthbound. Clint Stoker who sold himself as an experienced writer showed no professional prowess with his Downcast book and the art was cheap and sub-par.

And so on.

Even the "CG writers" supposedly focused on story telling rather than art don't seem capable of delivering a really compelling professionally crafted story. They seem to think a good premise makes a good story rather than the craft of good writing.

Reading Tennaple's work I can see how he's sold the majority of his books to film studios. His stories read like action adventure movies for all ages filled with heart. He doesn't write the kind of hard edged adult fiction I generally prefer but his work is still as much fun as watching those 90's Disney movies That were fun for kids and adults alike.

Doug Ernst's Soulfinder seems to be a rare exception to the durth of weak storytelling in CG but then I don't see Ernst taking part in whatever CG is nowadays anyway. I think he's probably smart enough to be embarrassed by what it's become.

 

[CapeKnight]

Liam tried to phone Allegiance Arts but their publicly listed contact phone number has been disconnected. Then they hunted down Kelsey Shannon to see if they could get Mitch's contact info that way. But Kelsey hasn't heard from Mitch in several weeks either so that was a dead end also. After that it was a circumspect condemnation until I asked what was the difference between a "no contact PR policy" and a blockbot that pre-blocks all possible customers? Then things got rolling.

Still, with no other programming planned, there was some skirting around the validity of refunding Mandy Summers' "Wart the Wizard", and around when Liam was just starting to comment on something questionable about its quality, the Preston Poulter copyrighting thing was dumped and everything else was dropped as Liam vowed to fight to see Poulter be sent into the poor house or something.
Then Ro came on to discuss none of that, ominously cautioned Liam that 'threatening to take someone's money away could be interpreted as a threat" in a way that I don't think anyone else picked up on, order the chat to buy Vestige before leaving on correcting the chat that "TUG is not a simp, TUG is a cuck!" followed by a belly laugh.
Then TUG showed up to discuss the Poulter trademark and move past the Ro thing, falling back on his own experience in frivolous trademarking when he did so with "Renfamous". However this was interrupted by Liam's co-host who ambushed TUG on his use of personal information and innuendo to try and blackmail critics into silence, the practice of which TUG greasily defended over the course of an hour.

Thank you @Mister Dongs. I've been tuning out a bit because the timezone doesn't do me any favors when that stream goes live. It's either I watch the shitshow, or I play the PS4 and get some work done in between. You are truly doing the lord's work.

 

[Analog Devolved]

Liam tried to phone Allegiance Arts but their publicly listed contact phone number has been disconnected. Then they hunted down Kelsey Shannon to see if they could get Mitch's contact info that way. But Kelsey hasn't heard from Mitch in several weeks either so that was a dead end also. After that it was a circumspect condemnation

With no other programming planned, there was some skirting around the validity of refunding Mandy Summers' "Wart the Wizard", and around when Liam was just starting to comment on something questionable about its quality, the Preston Poulter copyrighting thing was dumped and everything else was dropped as Liam vowed to fight to see Poulter be sent into the poor house or something.
Then Ro came on to discuss none of that, ominously cautioned Liam that 'threatening to take someone's money away could be interpreted as a threat" in a way that I don't think anyone else picked up on, order the chat to buy Vestige before leaving on correcting the chat that "TUG is not a simp, TUG is a cuck!" followed by a belly laugh.
Then TUG showed up to discuss the Poulter trademark and move past the Ro thing, falling back on his own experience in frivolous trademarking when he did so with "Renfamous". However this was interrupted by Liam's co-host who ambushed TUG on his use of personal information and innuendo to try and blackmail critics into silence, the practice of which TUG greasily defended over the course of an hour.

What a shock Mitch is in hiding. Breitweiser is a fraudster who screwed thousands of supporters. It's not a surprise his AA Twitter account only has 600 followers. Out of all the CG nonsense Breitweiser is the only one who deliberately defrauded customers and straight up stole the money and ran. He makes Mike Miller look like the patron Saint of honesty.
Mitch started by trying to deflect blame and cover his tracks before straight up ghosting his supporters. I hope his comic fails miserably what an embarrassing excuse for a manlet. His career is fucked no one will ever trust him again.

 

[Jub-Jub]

Yaboi Zack talks about Kickstarter laying off staff after new projects fell by 35%


Gatekeeping really worked out well for them didn't it?

140 staff members for a crowdfunding website that creators mostly setup themselves seems insane to begin with.

First I've heard of this. LOLsuits incoming?

Preston Poulter Trademarks Comicsgate

archived 22 Apr 2020 16:50:18 UTC

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"Bleeding Cool discovered this information independently"
I'll believe that when my shit turns purple and tastes like rainbow sherbert.

 

[Newman's Own]

What even is the point of trademarking that crap? Does it honestly matter at this point?

Preston is trolling CG. This will likely lead to a massive explosion of spergery from CG tards reeeing uncontrollably.

Brilliant. Simply brilliant.

 

[Nippy]

I tend to disagree. Doug is guilt of pretty much everything EVS is guilty of (bar a poor work ethic).
He tends to get away with it though, because he keeps his gay ops in private chat groups and his streams too boring and poorly attended for anybody to notice what he's up to. Occasionally he can't help but publicly congratulate himself though, like putting Thomas Roiloup up to buying Ribbitcoins (clearly Doug knows more about the collectables market then EVS does).
https://youtu.be/pInAichodOA?t=259 (timestamped at 4:18 )
Doug has his own little sped army of a-loggers like Roiloup and the Incel Brothers and the remnants of the Nerkish clan, who are no different to those Warcampaign fags, just a lot less 'flamboyant'.
He'll occasionally have Nerkish, Roiloup, Tim Lim, Nassar and a whole bunch of other autists on his streams as a reward for their good works. Why else would have still be associating with those losers?
He's such a passive aggressive, bitter little man. So is EVS but at least he a-logs Doug to his face. you can't help but notice Doug watching over his acolytes from the chat in the Incel brothers streams, with the rest of his hangers on (some of whom shit up this thread), as he applauds autism like their grand conspiracy theory about how 'The Mormon's are funding CG!'



I couldn't agree more. Some people seem to like rewriting history.
Doug was very aptly described as 'Hollywood Doug'.
He was the one that contacted EVS because he wanted to 'learn the ropes of his crowdfunding model. He shmoozed in and grifted the community and then couldn't get out fast enough the second he secured the rights to EWJ.
He leapt on the whole Handyman/Brad Ashworth controversy, which had nothing to do with him, just so he could declare himself finished with comicsgate from a smug moral high ground that allowed him to pretend that his staged exit was moral stance that didn't make him look like the piece of shit that he is. Then he goaded Mike into turning just to poke a stick in the eye of Ethan's 'Godless movement'.
He brushed off Comicsgate like I imagine he brushes off anybody that has served their utility to him and has nothing more to offer, but didn't have to be such an ingrate to the people that helped him and backed him as he walked away.
So fuck him.
Bigfoot Bill was an awful book BTW. I know, I bought it. It reeks of exactly what it was, a second rate, second hand idea that I liked much better when it was called Creature Tech. BFB was Doug's disposable training wheels to get to grips with Crowdfunding and prepare for EWJ and that's exactly how it reads.

This narrative of Doug being some kind of villain who grifted the good boys of CG is getting harder and harder to spin. He, like anyone with half a brain, saw which way the wind was blowing. Anything more is EVS created boogeymen.

 

[Comicsgeist]

Wait... didn't Cridious register Comicsgate as a trademark? Or did he fuck that up as well?

 

[Starscreams Cape]

DOUG MAN BAD!!!!!

Or FrogManBad in your case.

What even is the point of trademarking that crap? Does it honestly matter at this point?

It matters to people like Preston apparently. But for someone who almost perfectly embodies the term "LOLcow" he seems to get a free pass here.

 

[Comicsgeist]

This narrative of Doug being some kind of villain who grifted the good boys of CG is getting harder and harder to spin. He, like anyone with half a brain, saw which way the wind was blowing. Anything more is EVS created boogeymen.

I find it mildly hilarious that you could say exactly the same about Mitch, but Doug gets a pass. Though credit where it's due, at least Doug had the decency to deliver his book on the way out.

 

[Jub-Jub]

YBZ is having entirely too much fun laughing at the industry.

Preston is trolling CG. This will likely lead to a massive explosion of spergery from CG tards reeeing uncontrollably.

Brilliant. Simply brilliant.

His brilliant plan is to make @FROG more money?

It's an exceptional plan all right.

 

[Newman's Own]

I find it mildly hilarious that you could say exactly the same about Mitch, but Doug gets a pass. Though credit where it's due, at least Doug had the decency to deliver his book on the way out.

If Doug delivered the book then how did he grift them like Mitch?

I received Doug's book on time and of superior quality to what was promised. Mitch took my money and instead of making the promised book with it he used it to launch a publishing house that will deliver my book to Walmart before I get mine.

How is what Tennaple did anything like what Mitch did?

Fair play to Mitch. He fucked me over and I was dumb enough to fall for it.

Doug didn't fuck me over though. I'll be getting more of Doug's product because he delivers on his promises.

His brilliant plan is to make @FROG more money?

It's an exceptional plan all right.

His plan was to set off the spergs.

Seems to be working.

I'm seeing evidence in this thread.

Preston is getting the attention he wants and it's setting off the tard squad.

Preston's obvious plan seems to be working but I can understand how you might have missed that.

 

[Nippy]

I find it mildly hilarious that you could say exactly the same about Mitch, but Doug gets a pass. Though credit where it's due, at least Doug had the decency to deliver his book on the way out.

Doug crowdfunded and delivered a book. Those are the beginning and end of his obligations. To say he betrayed some nebulous community is autistic. The guy had Reagan Lodge on his show after he was outed as a bad bad terribad (former) white nationalist, meaning he doesn't seem afraid of being associated with controversy. CG is so autistic and radioactive that people prefer the company of ex-white nationalists.

 

[Starscreams Cape]

If Doug delivered the book then how did he grift them Mitch?

I received Doug's book on time and of superior quality to what was promised. Mitch took my money and instead of making the promised book with it he used it to launch a publishing house that will deliver my book to Walmart before I get mine.

How is what Tennaple did anything like what Mitch did?

Fair play to Mitch. He fucked me over and I was dumb enough to fall for it.

Doug didn't fuck me over though. I'll be getting more of Doug's product because he delivers on his promises.

I'm mad that Mitch appears to be treating his backers like crap. Having said that, I have a feeling Red Rooster will be delivered. And if you are going on the quality of the product in your hands, I also have a hunch that RR will blow away the absolute garbage that BFB was.

 

[Adamska]

I'm mad that Mitch appears to be treating his backers like crap. Having said that, I have a feeling Red Rooster will be delivered. And if you are going on the quality of the product in your hands, I also have a hunch that RR will blow away the absolute garbage that BFB was.

Even if that was the case? I'd still happily say that Mitch can go fuck himself and I'd hope he dies penniless and a failure.

 

[jspit]

So new comics day, I guess...

Mostly new comics are digital. DC has actually expended digital releases, a Superman title by Vendetti with art by Pellitier and a Wonder Woman book by Conner and Palmioti, because they didn't fuck Harley Quinn up enough. Some Indies with 2000AD standing out too.

In CG...

Richard put out the above editorial and he's done that allot, but he's also more or less given up on reviews of the new material online. His last real review was Mags' terrible planet earth book.

Live with Liam continues to be a trash fire treat.

Latest show with Tugplug, pretending he gives a shit about comics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC51zknwXQY

Doug did a video about shops. As if he cares

The Guardian: Will Comic Stores Survive the Virus?

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Cummings has made a mistake. He should have stayed offline. He was always a sperg, and he's chill and centered now. He released a boring video.

New Digital Comic Books are bad!!

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6dgguqkp1_m5jlIkzbmSzA

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Tangentially elated to comics. Star Wars merch sales have tanked. The Star Wars comics were a big deal, now you look and this loss of interest could hit marvel hard if Star Wars comics start to decline too.

The failure of STAR WARS Merchandise under Kathleen Kennedy, Lucasfilm and Bad Robot

#StarWars #StarTrek #JusticeLeagueDark On April 21st, Bleeding fool disseminated the highlights from an April 13th interview published by Rebelscum.com, in w...

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In other spaces

Marvels EiC will be appearing live on Drink and draw. Crazy exposing himself

C.B. Cebulski MARVEL Editor-In-Chief!

The Drink and Draw gang discusses all things Marvel Comics with the leader of the band himself, C.B. Cebulski!

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People have given up trying to remove Ed Piskor's head from his ass, It's been so firmly lodged up his ass for so long that its adapted and couldn't exist in the outside world He is still talking about comic books from thirty years ago as a month has passed since new comics were released...

Cartoonist Kayfabe

The audio/visual inside-scoop from master comic makers Ed Piskor and Jim Rugg.

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It's been a month and Simone still hasn't shown her face on the youtubes.

 

[Newman's Own]

I'm mad that Mitch appears to be treating his backers like crap. Having said that, I have a feeling Red Rooster will be delivered. And if you are going on the quality of the product in your hands, I also have a hunch that RR will blow away the absolute garbage that BFB was.

I actually read my RR PDF. It's mediocre. I don't hate it but I won't be giving the property any more of my cash.

I supported Doug's books because I read some of his Scholastic stuff and it's really well done. I also enjoyed BFB.

I understand that you hate Doug because he called your movement a bunch of spergs on his way out but I don't think you're proving him wrong by sperging about it.

 

[jspit]

I'm mad that Mitch appears to be treating his backers like crap. Having said that, I have a feeling Red Rooster will be delivered. And if you are going on the quality of the product in your hands, I also have a hunch that RR will blow away the absolute garbage that BFB was.

That's bullshit. Big foot bill is a quality hardcover that Tennaple poured way too much money into. Its quality. Hate the man, but the product was amazing. The problem isn't that the books late, its that he used the crowdfund to get paid and have time to build his company rather than deliver the book.

I actually read my RR PDF. It's mediocre. I don't hate it but I won't be giving the property any more of my cash.

I supported Doug's books because I read some of his Scholastic stuff and it's really well done. I also enjoyed BFB.

I understand that you hate Doug because he called your movement a bunch of spergs on his way out but I don't think you're proving him wrong by sperging about it.

He's a solid creator, so is Richard and Frog. At the end of the day the difference between Richard and Doug and Frog is two of those people don't have an army of spergs to fight through to get access to them as a reader.

But we all can agree that the three of them are ahead of Mitch Breitweiser because all three of them delivered a book, right?

 

[Newman's Own]

He's a solid creator, so is Richard and Frog. At the end of the day the difference between Richard and Doug and Frog is two of those people don't have an army of spergs to fight through to get access to them as a reader.

But we all can agree that the three of them are ahead of Mitch Breitweiser because all three of them delivered a book, right?

I wouldn't say Richard or Ethan are solid or even capable writers as far as being creators goes but that can be subjective. Richard seems to have more imagination though and is working to improve so it's possible he could get to a level where large groups of people would read his stuff because it's compelling rather than because they agree with him about Marvel. I respect that he's trying to earn his fans. Ethan on the other hand should stick to cross hatching and leave writing fiction to people with a mind for it.

It's a matter of opinion at the end of the day but I think Tennaple actually understands writing on a level the other two just aren't aware of or so it appears from their amateurish writing.

That being said they have a following and repeat customers so people must be satisfied with the stories they're telling or message they're sending to the ess-jay-dubbyahs, so good for them.

You're right. All three are definitely ahead of Mitch I'd say.

Wait... didn't Cridious register Comicsgate as a trademark? Or did he fuck that up as well?

Cridious let the TM lapse. I believe there's a requirement for people to protect their TMs or the law won't protect them.

It will be entertaining to see if Preston sends Ethan a C&D order for using the TM on YouTube. I don't think Preston would have a case but it'd be entertaining to find out.