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I don't think anyone would give a mainstream property to comics gate after Expendables. That should of made bank but was slept on and half assed and I'm pretty sure late.
There's no "pretty much." It was late. Bigly.

Regardless there would be no money in that licence. You own zero rights to toys or merchandise etc.
Now? Yeah. Comic sales are down in general. Probably why IDW wouldn't want to continue publishing (if the rumor is true).

That's not how it works. You don't "buy a mainstream property." You present the licensor with a plan for how much money you believe you can generate using their property, and they either agree or don't agree. Either way, you're stuck paying them what you proposed in most cases.
Assuming that's true: Zack could not possibly generate the revenue that would blow greedy-ass corporate Hasbro's skirt up. And his credibility if he were to pitch otherwise is shot because Expendables was a complete and utter clusterfuck.

Plus, "Something... something... Comicsgate are alt-right Nazis. Something... something... Baroness, Lady Jaye and Scarlett should have a lesbian love triangle arc."

Better?
 
Zack could not possibly generate the revenue that would blow greedy-ass corporate Hasbro's skirt up.

I'm telling you, you're really over valuing the GI Joe IP right now. Based on what EVS says about how licensing works, Zack probably could have a shot at it if he actually wanted to do it. If he was able to get Expendables, he could get GI Joe. Expendables being late probably wouldn't even be an issue to Hasbro as they don't even seem worried about having the comics directly tie into the toylines at this point. (when there even IS a toyline, that is)

But honestly, the idea of Zack getting it was just a funny thought I had. I was more interested if he just made a video about the rumor in general.
 
There's no "pretty much." It was late. Bigly.


Now? Yeah. Comic sales are down in general. Probably why IDW wouldn't want to continue publishing (if the rumor is true).


Assuming that's true: Zack could not possibly generate the revenue that would blow greedy-ass corporate Hasbro's skirt up. And his credibility if he were to pitch otherwise is shot because Expendables was a complete and utter clusterfuck.

Plus, "Something... something... alt-right Nazis. Something... something... Baroness, Lady Jaye and Scarlett should have a lesbian love triangle arc."

Better?
Zack could take a swing at it. His comics make as much or more than IDW comics do, they’re just infrequent and distributed by hand.

HASBRO doesn’t care about his performance on EXPENDABLES, they care about the money he’d promise them.

The reason that Zack wouldn’t get it is that Marvel or Dark Horse would bid ahead of him. But if for some sad reason it was down to the indies, sure.
 
Zack could take a swing at it. His comics make as much or more than IDW comics do, they’re just infrequent and distributed by hand.

HASBRO doesn’t care about his performance on EXPENDABLES, they care about the money he’d promise them.

The reason that Zack wouldn’t get it is that Marvel or Dark Horse would bid ahead of him. But if for some sad reason it was down to the indies, sure.
Was Stallone happy with the results of the Expendables sales and product in the end?

Personally I think the long term game should of been to focus a lot more on the Expendables, promote it constantly on your stream make it a huge success and then approach Stallone with his own licence for a collaboration in the other direction.

Huge missed opotunity .
 
I'm telling you, you're really over valuing the GI Joe IP right now.
G.I. Joe's popularity is down. I get it. What I'm saying is I don't think it's so far in the toilet Hasbro would hand it to Zack.

HASBRO doesn’t care about his performance on EXPENDABLES, they care about the money he’d promise them.
Which pales in comparison to what nearly every other publishing house could promise with an air of credibility. Expendables showed what he could do with a preexisting IP, and it wasn't particularly impressive.
 
I'm telling you, it really is. Especially after GI Joe Origins: Snake Eyes bombed.
My dude, I think you're trying to span a huge chasm between a Hollywood movie bombing against the backdrop of COVID, and that somehow necessitating them handing an iconic American IP over to Richard Meyer.

Regardless, I think we all are in agreement he won't get the license. Nor should he even try.

Also, I noticed I typed "lawsuit with Meyer" instead of "lawsuit with Waid." This is because I haven't had my requisite 8 cups of coffee yet. My apologies. I corrected it.
 
Was Stallone happy with the results of the Expendables sales and product in the end?

Personally I think the long term game should of been to focus a lot more on the Expendables, promote it constantly on your stream make it a huge success and then approach Stallone with his own licence for a collaboration in the other direction.

Huge missed opotunity .
I have no idea how Stallone felt about the final product, but given that it was his concept and it was well drawn and produced nicely, I’ve gotta think he’s happy. He’s a filmmaker, not a publisher. I’m sure he understands delays in production. To him, a graphic novel is probably similar to a novel. Takes time to polish.

G.I. Joe's popularity is down. I get it. What I'm saying is I don't think it's so far in the toilet Hasbro would hand it to Zack.


Which pales in comparison to what nearly every other publishing house could promise with an air of credibility. Expendables showed what he could do with a preexisting IP, and it wasn't particularly impressive.
HASBRO would rather hand it to a bigger publisher, I agree. MARVEL would be best, if they were interested. They got people excited about CONAN again.

For Zack, if he wanted to go after other IPs, I’d stick to properties nobody is looking at. 28 DAYS LATER. UNDERWORLD. ESCAPE FROM L.A. Things people know, but that bigger companies aren’t competing for.
 
My dude, I think you're trying to span a huge chasm between a Hollywood movie bombing against the backdrop of COVID,

My dude, I already explained how the toyline is basically on life support supported by a (relative) handful of middle aged autists. Snake Eyes was supposed to be *the* thing that catapulted it back into the mainstream and it was a resounding dud among critics, the public and the actual fans. This isn't a Covid thing, this is a "GI Joe has been a dying franchise for 20 years" thing.

Even GI Joe fanboys acknowledge it's practically dead. I'm telling you, they'd give it to *anyone* at this point as long as they made them some money.

I'm honestly going to be really surprised if any big publisher goes for it. It just seems like poison to me. Marvel can't even sell comics for hte biggest film and merchandising franchise on the planet, what hope does anyone have with a dead toy franchise from the 80's?

Edit: To put it into more perspective. Hasbro THEMSELVES now do crowdfunding for their toys. It only seems natural the only way a GI Joe comic could make money is through a crowdsourced method at this point.

That's not me saying anyone SHOULD take it. It's a dead franchise and anyone with brains would be better off making something much more modern and fresh. But crowdsourced would be the only logical way to go for it to make any sense from a business standpoint.
 
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GI Joe's real value being in the shitter hasn't stopped Hasbro from charging IDW exorbitant licensing fees for years. To be fair IDW had an active hand in destroying any remaining value GI Joe had with stunts like allowing an america-hating communist to replace the property with obese black women as "special forces" and gay erotica. The point being, Hasbro would have to steeply lower what they charged IDW for even the top level of people involved in crowdfunded comics to conceivably afford. And even if they did (which I don't see happening as IDW ran into heavy debt), I don't see whatever additional business the "GI Joe brand" would bring resulting in a net profit after the licensing fees. So I don't see anyone doing it.
 
Sometimes. Last I heard JSG was getting suspiciously mad over people talking about the "we're coming for your children" song from the San Francisco Gay Choir and on some right wing SJW horseshoe theory shit. Has he been up to any other dumb shit lately? Inquiring minds want to know.

Something is seriously wrong with him when it comes to kids. He gets oddly defensive of pedophiles I’ve noticed (Cuties, the Gay Men's choir, and some stuff I'm posting below). He creates this dumb, false trapping where he believes every person on the planet loves Catholic church molestation, so you have to love other areas of it too. He’s like Vaush.
He also expects every Christian to answer for it as well (see his dumb af exchange with Jack Murphy where he got his ass handed to him):
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He's been hitting the “other side” hard lately, which would be completely fine/fair if he was doing it from a good faith place.

He made a video shitting himself about the right “banning books”, only for the comment section to do his job and inform people it was more nuanced than that, and that he’d done no research. He probably only made the video just to say the title.


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(all Christians are catholics and touch children's butts, checkmate believetards *flys away on tipping fedora back to planet Reddit)

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Once again, he's done no research to get a "gotcha!" on the other side, because this article is filled with errors. Also, it was people across the political spectrum angry about this case, because the school covered it up. But he's gotta protect sex offenders at all costs.

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The article in no way says what he says it does. The problem was traumatized women want a female only space. No one said the male individual hadn't, or couldn't, have been raped.

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He missed the point that the dialogue was supposed to be on the nose, and if he's familiar with the actors in question, Rob and Ashley are total water carriers for extreme left ideals, so they probably were mocking people who think like this anyway. But he's gotta get his "both sides" on.

Alright, there's my spergy string board. My question is, wtf happened to him? It seems out of nowhere.
 
Sorry, but I'd have to see Meyer make a miraculous return to form before I'd ever see him work on a valuable property.
At first, I was like "What form? Writing mediocre fan fiction?". Then I realized that's exactly the form.

The funniest thing is how GI Joe is basically a "boomer" property now. It's propped up by a handful of 40-50 year old autists who are *really* out of touch. They're the types that think if GI Joe "just went back to how it was in the 80's" it'd be the biggest thing ever again.
I think this is happening to pretty much every 80s property, except for maybe Transformers.
G.I. Joe steps on a land mine every time it tries to enter a movie theater. Kevin Smith making He-Man even gayer was the first time anyone had talked about MOTU in years and that disappeared relatively quickly. MLP isn't even the butt of jokes/memes like it was a few years ago.

This is par for the course for any pop culture thing, though. Kids don't give a fuck about the 80s stuff Dad grew up on just like Dad wouldn't give a fuck about a revival of F-Troop or Bonanza.

There's no need to invest in some burned out 80's Hasbro legacy.
But let's say Zack gave it a shot and actually got the Joe license. Without making any assumptions about the quality of the work he'd do, I can't help but think he'd absolutely shit on every other project he has in various stages of fulfillment. He'd be so 100% concentrated on G.I. Joe, he'd let everything fall further behind and probably lose a lot more backers. You know better than anyone on this forum how scatterbrained and wishy-washy he is and how he puts G.I. Joe on a pedestal over every other piece of fiction he's ever consumed. I can't see Zack doing G.I. Joe as anything other than a major distraction from everything else he has on his plate.
 
I'm telling you, you're really over valuing the GI Joe IP right now. Based on what EVS says about how licensing works, Zack probably could have a shot at it if he actually wanted to do it. If he was able to get Expendables, he could get GI Joe. Expendables being late probably wouldn't even be an issue to Hasbro as they don't even seem worried about having the comics directly tie into the toylines at this point. (when there even IS a toyline, that is)

But honestly, the idea of Zack getting it was just a funny thought I had. I was more interested if he just made a video about the rumor in general.
The way I see it a pitch in the letter of "successful crowdfunded campaigns including expendables, 107 thousand followers on social media interested in comics, will keep your IP alive for free, Chuck Dixon, creator of Robin and Bane" could net YBZ the licence.

Edit: about JSG and pedos, once upon a time he said that someone close to him was molested as a child (and I would guess by a priest). This is why he is so fixated with the subject matter.
It was on a video commenting to some feminist saying bullshit and he was "a male friend of mine was raped as a child".
 
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The way I see it a pitch in the letter of "successful crowdfunded campaigns including expendables, 107 thousand followers on social media interested in comics, will keep your IP alive for free, Chuck Dixon, creator of Robin and Bane" could net YBZ the licence.

I didn't even factor in the Chuck Dixon association, as he has actually written modern GI Joe comics. That'd also probably be a plus in his favor, true.
 
The way I see it a pitch in the letter of "successful crowdfunded campaigns including expendables, 107 thousand followers on social media interested in comics, will keep your IP alive for free, Chuck Dixon, creator of Robin and Bane" could net YBZ the licence.

Edit: about JSG and pedos, once upon a time he said that someone close to him was molested as a child (and I would guess by a priest). This is why he is so fixated with the subject matter.
It was on a video commenting to some feminist saying bullshit and he was "a male friend of mine was raped as a child".
I wonder if by “friend” he meant himself, because he gets borderline unhinged and always somehow takes the ire off the pedo.
 
I'm telling you, you're really over valuing the GI Joe IP right now. Based on what EVS says about how licensing works, Zack probably could have a shot at it if he actually wanted to do it. If he was able to get Expendables, he could get GI Joe. Expendables being late probably wouldn't even be an issue to Hasbro as they don't even seem worried about having the comics directly tie into the toylines at this point. (when there even IS a toyline, that is)

But honestly, the idea of Zack getting it was just a funny thought I had. I was more interested if he just made a video about the rumor in general.

IDW owns it. It's not pricey. It's a license for comics.

Sometimes. Last I heard JSG was getting suspiciously mad over people talking about the "we're coming for your children" song from the San Francisco Gay Choir and on some right wing SJW horseshoe theory shit. Has he been up to any other dumb shit lately? Inquiring minds want to know.




JustSomeGuy can't really hold a candle to the current crop of Liam streams though. Today's episode: a disheveled and manic Liam in a tanktop uses a rusty shovel to hunt a snake in his backyard during a windstorm.




Yesterday Dan Shahin brought on Steve Geppi, founder and owner of Diamond Comic Distributions. Until last year, Geppi enjoyed an effective monopoly on all delivery of comic books both nationally and internationally since 1992. Things have not improved for Geppi since his appearance on Shahin's channel when he declared in front of several publishers also on panel that "our comeback will be stronger than our setback". This did not prove to be the case. After shutting down operations during the initial COVID lockdowns on the basis that delivering comics to shutdown stores was a financial burden neither store or he could afford, DC used this chance to terminate their exclusive distribution deal with Diamond. Marvel followed suit shortly thereafter. Finally, Diamond was the victim of a nasty ransomware attack which shut down operations for weeks and no doubt left comic stores looking elsewhere for stock. This last setback may be related to the septuagenarian Geppi's public thirst tweets for camwhores, as dutifully reported by Rich Johnston.

There are still a great deal of publishers and shops that stick with Geppi from decades of personal loyalty, but the downfall of Diamond Distibution from its decades-long monopoly status signals a tectonic shift in the comic industry landscape that nobody really knows where it will lead to. In any case, Geppi would prefer to skip that and instead talk about his latest activities like how his donated comic collection is now being presented in the Library of Congress, but Shahin cheerfully keeps steering thee conversation back to topics he finds more interesting, like Geppi's life's work of 40+ years being left in complete shambles. Geppi agrees that comics are doing better than ever, so well that he uses the chance to announce his newest business venture: brokerage for fractional NFT purchases. It's as if the comic book industry is sinking like the Titanic, and one man - Smiller - is showing them the way with garish monkey jpegs. An NFT lifeboat, if you will.

Shahin closes the interview by happily proclaiming that comics are doing better than ever and he challenges anyone viewing to come on his show and prove to him otherwise. Better for everyone except Steve Geppi I guess.



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Our boy Edwin was spotted the other day by Ian Miles Cheong. Come to think of it, he has been awfully quiet lately..

He posted a video twenty minute long video where he literally compared revulsion of ongoing pedophillia and attempts by gays to mainstream it as similar to Antifa paranoia of cops and Hitler towards Jews. It comes at the 2:45 mark.


JustSomePedo is the exact type of Libertarian Faggot that question whether some human beings lack souls.

he hasnt been the same since Nick destroyed his communist ass on flashcast.

You got a link and context?
 
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