#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[Tepes Thot]

I don't think it's a heel turn, it's just him reminding people who he actually is. Like when Sam Harris was totally anti-SJW, picked up a load of new listeners to his podcast, and then had to explain that he really didn't care that they didn't like his anti-religion/Trump takes later on.

I do like JSG vids, and the fact he's ruffling feathers rather than grifting like the FNTs guys shows he does have some integrity.

He’s definitely grifting, I already proved that in my post. He’s only doing this because he’s butthurt by the right after getting blown out by RL (thanks for that informative post btw, it makes total sense now). Otherwise, he’d be business as usual.

It’s like when he got in his one sided war with Sony, and drug it out so long because self-admittedly he could. He doesn’t let things go at all.

ETA: This fucking retard believes there has to be a certain amount of filth in a book for kids as opposed to none at all. Is he on a registry? :

 

[A nameless trool]

JSPedo was a headliner on FNT a couple of weeks ago. And I don't have to remind anybody that they're staunch anti-cuties, anti-choir and anti-people that Kyle shot.

I'm oddly invested in him pulling a heel-turn and embarrassing everybody even further.
I wonder if the FNT crew will just defend their diversity pet or just throw him under the bus.

Before EVS came abroad, CG was not a rightwing movement. It was arguementative assholes bitching about comics.
JSG is that argumentative asshole. He is in his mid-late thirties, so he grew up with 4chan and forums and antagonistic internet culture, wanted to do a GG channel but was too broke so he jumped on CG and did YBZ/Meme Headroom type videos only scripting them so it was all highlights and zingers.
Then he started sperging about Tolkien, Star Wars and got a ton more followers.
Content-wise, he is top-tier compared to CG/FM youtubers, but he is letting his inner cow come out.

I believe we should come up with the KF law (similar to godwin's law): The more content one creates, the more likely it is to become a cow, and with high enough subscribers, it is a certainty.

 

[Absurdity]

Before EVS came abroad, CG was not a rightwing movement. It was arguementative assholes bitching about comics.
JSG is that argumentative asshole. He is in his mid-late thirties, so he grew up with 4chan and forums and antagonistic internet culture, wanted to do a GG channel but was too broke so he jumped on CG and did YBZ/Meme Headroom type videos only scripting them so it was all highlights and zingers.
Then he started sperging about Tolkien, Star Wars and got a ton more followers.
Content-wise, he is top-tier compared to CG/FM youtubers, but he is letting his inner cow come out.

I believe we should come up with the KF law (similar to godwin's law): The more content one creates, the more likely it is to become a cow, and with high enough subscribers, it is a certainty.

Argumentative assholes can be just fine if you manage to make it entertaining/funny. Zack used to do that, Ethan used to do that. The problems I see kicking in is when you start to have the need to shape your audience or differentiate your brand from a competitor. Micromanaging social media, gayops, etc.

But to just be an argumentative asshole: aside from voting for Trump, what is rightwing about CG?

It was only political when it needed to be for Sciverfrog to join. Almost everything else has been purged, up to and including Zack bending the knee and apologizing for calling Visaggio a "man in a wig". At best you might call it left-of-center Libertarian. Dunking on left-of-everything SJW wingnuts isn't enough on its own to make one rightwing, especially when using some of their own tactics.

 

[Ike Aim]

Dunking on left-of-everything SJW wingnuts isn't enough on its own to make one rightwing, especially when using some of their own tactics.

Depends on who you ask. This is where the Overton Window tug-of-war takes place.

 

[Absurdity]

Come now, we all know what Ethan thinks of "principles." It's all about getting us to pay premium prices upfront for his repackaged products or for one of his three-issues-per-decade-reboot-that-will-need-another-reboot-once-it's-done miniseries. If he really believed in making the world a better place, you'd find it in his work somewhere. He's just a white trash mall vendor who will say anything to get you to come to his chintzy frog kiosk. Take my advice and don't eat the two year-old slice of Cecil-Cecil pizza or the All-You-Can-Anna Calendar even if he offers it for free... well maybe just a month or two of Anna before the holidays and the alcohol take their toll.

 

[Miniluv]

Holy shit is CG so boring now we can add Ya BoI-Joe to the list of repetitive ideas?

-Werewolf books
-Westerns
-Ya BoI-JOE

It's been almost 3 pages of this discussion? Does anyone really want this? Was Expendables Go To Hell that good? Are we still fighting the sjws? (sarcasm)

Or are we just running wish fulfillment for boomers on YouTube now? Zack don't care about you.

Hold the horse Tex, nobody gives a shit about Zack's books.

Yes, CG is so boring right now that the idea of G.I. Joe's comic license potentially coming up for grabs leads to us thinking of how funny/stupid it would be if YBZ laid hands on it, pulled a fucking Zack and shit the bed after landing his Holy Grail.

There are so few new fuck-ups to laugh at in CG that we've resorted to pondering hypothetical fuck-ups.

I wasn't praising his writing unless you count saying he'd be "pretty decent" for a licensed book based on a toy nobody really gives a shit about as "praise".

 

[Pilule Noire]

Cash Grab update:
Frog is still under the belief that Cecil is a "highly competent person" in real life and not the obvious, so these developments just befuddle him.

I was gritting my teeth through this clip of would-be comedienne Iliza Shlesinger on Joe Rogan recently:

In which she discusses her infamous first appearance on his show, where she recounted a real-life story of how some ugly dude managed to date her for months by pretending to be an Ivy League bigshot with high-level political connections.

She only found out later, by looking him up on the net, that he was just a nobody, a fraud, an ugly lying schmuck, who had simply spoonfed her a rich pile of BS in order to get into her pants.

Now as you can imagine, her telling of this story on the JRE was met with howls of laughter from the internet - but to her annoyance, the howls of laughter were directed at her, not at the dude. It seems the internet simply chuckled at the dude, and said "LOL nice 1". And worse still, the mean old internet started mocking Iliza, and calling her a dumb cunt and a golddigger!

And so we come to the recent clip above, where she announces that she is deftly attempting to 'control the narrative' in the aftermath of her podcast blurtings, by making an hilarious entertainment movie about this hilarious true-life tale, of the defrauding of her innocent, some might say naive vageen.

I'm hotly anticipating this movie as one of the biggest multimillion-dollar damage control efforts, disguised as an entertainment feature, since "The Rise of Skywalker"!

But don't feel bad if you can't get through the clip, she is notably a figure who attracted monumental levels of 'dislike' button pushes when JRE was on Youtube. I would describe my own enjoyment of her as "cringedy", I see her as a cringedienne.

Anyway the reason I bring all this up is that I was just thinking how funny it would be if it turned out Cecil was just like that, like he's just some low-level disgraced stock trader who managed to convince The Duchess that he was a high-rolling bigshot. But in reality he's just a mooching beta male slob, who just desperately wants to orbit Anna TSWG.

 

[ShitInMyMouth]

It’s like when he got in his one sided war with Sony, and drug it out so long because self-admittedly he could. He doesn’t let things go at all.

Sounds like the good old fashioned internet autism if you ask me.

 

[A nameless trool]

It was only political when it needed to be for Sciverfrog to join. Almost everything else has been purged, up to and including Zack bending the knee and apologizing for calling Visaggio a "man in a wig". At best you might call it left-of-center Libertarian. Dunking on left-of-everything SJW wingnuts isn't enough on its own to make one rightwing, especially when using some of their own tactics.

As far as I remember YBZ said that Mags "looks like a man in a wig" and apologized when she started looking like a woman further into her transition.

But Zack is like that. He stopped calling people autistic when a viewer mailed him that his child is autistic and it is a challenge.

 

[ShitInMyMouth]

Anyone else think it's a shame that office bully and shaved potato Mark Waid didn't confront former USMC Ya Boi Zak at that conference when he was demanding on Twitter that people "bring him to me"? I think that altercation would have been over hilariously quickly.

 

[Dr. CoffinNails]

This is par for the course for any pop culture thing, though. Kids don't give a fuck about the 80s stuff Dad grew up on just like Dad wouldn't give a fuck about a revival of F-Troop or Bonanza.

I for one would LOVE to see an F-Troop revival (as long as it starred a 98 year old Larry Storch)!

 

[Analog Devolved]

I'm hoping someone leaves Ethans head under the tree for his fam to open on Christmas, who's gift is this? It's all ya'lls bitch. Hire someone to break in his crib and threaten his life with a dulled out butter knife, ready to smash on that scam artist nigger like a sky diver smashed on his first ex wife.

 

[Miniluv]

Anyone else think it's a shame that office bully and shaved potato Mark Waid didn't confront former USMC Ya Boi Zak at that conference when he was demanding on Twitter that people "bring him to me"? I think that altercation would have been over hilariously quickly.

This reminded me of an incident from a simpler time (10 years ago) when the pre-TDS comics industry wasn't quite so polarized.

Some of you may remember the story of Rob Granito, a borderline retarded clown who made a living swiping other artists work and selling it at conventions. Granito made all sorts of improbable claims about his industry credits, including being a "ghost artist" for both Marvel and DC, working on Batman The Animated Series and, maybe his most ridiculous whopper, that he worked on Calvin and Hobbes.

Granito had no shame, swiping not only comic art but DVD covers, movie posters, even photographs of cosplayers/models. Like many liars and con artists, he couldn't help but name drop to make himself look like something he wasn't. This is where his grift hit a wall. Shortly after the passing of the prolific and well respected writer Dwayne McDuffie, Granito posted this on Facebook:

Implying he worked with McDuffie was the final straw and his reckoning came at 2011's MegaCon in Orlando in the form of the unlikely tag team of Mark Waid and our very own @FROG. The MegaCon Mega Powers, if you will.

The confrontation was detailed over at Bleeding Cool, where Rich Johnston actually did some journalism and wrote an in-depth series of articles on the Granito story which are worth a read if you didn't know anything about it.

Rob Granito’s MegaCon Adventure With Mark Waid

It may not have escaped your notice that Rob Granito appeared at MegaCon this weekend. You can catch up with the timeline here. Ethan Van Sciver

bleedingcool.com

Granito was banned from cons after this became public and attempted to reinvent himself as sort of a Charlie Sheen type "bad boy of comics", charging ridiculous amounts for interviews and claiming he had industry dirt which got him "blacklisted" from a business he never worked in.

Sorry for the derail, but the idea of Mark Waid confronting people at cons reminded me of this story and it's interesting that even back in 2011 Waid was casually referring to EVS as a "right wing Nazi".

 

[Ike Aim]

JSPedo was a headliner on FNT a couple of weeks ago. And I don't have to remind anybody that they're staunch anti-cuties, anti-choir and anti-people that Kyle shot.

I'm oddly invested in him pulling a heel-turn and embarrassing everybody even further.
I wonder if the FNT crew will just defend their diversity pet or just throw him under the bus.

We've basically seen this movie before. What will happen is the FNT leaders-who-are-not-leaders, Gary and Jeremy, will instruct their Zeroes to keep their mouths shut about it, thus putting those Zeroes in the position of looking dull, cowardly, and even more zero-y. They'll do this ostensibly so as to not "feed the trolls" and because the Zeroes are Zeroes, the Zeroes will just go along with it and not question their cucking. However, idiot Gary, being a ridiculous idiot, will go forth for several weeks making vague, passive-aggressive comments regarding the subject (in this scenario, a theoretically outed JustSomePedo) that's meant to come across as incisive/wise/"real"/etc because that's what's its like (to Gary) In Recovery™ when a 50-year old tells a noob he's fucking up using back-handed statements, insinuation, and various other benign-cult shame-inducing thought-stoppage tactics. However, those of us who can RaEd MoR Go0deR and who aren't desperate junkies will just see a petty, middle-aged man, his tip jar runneth over, his sanity further corroded by the public gaze, being a sketchy dickhead.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

He’s definitely grifting, I already proved that in my post. He’s only doing this because he’s butthurt by the right after getting blown out by RL (thanks for that informative post btw, it makes total sense now). Otherwise, he’d be business as usual.

It’s like when he got in his one sided war with Sony, and drug it out so long because self-admittedly he could. He doesn’t let things go at all.

ETA: This fucking retard believes there has to be a certain amount of filth in a book for kids as opposed to none at all. Is he on a registry? :

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He also says the everyone, including the parents (!) who are warning people about that queer pedo book are pedophiles themselves. There is no doubt in my mind that this sick fuck is a fucking pedo. First he defends the gay pedo choir who was singing "We are coming for your kids" and has actual convicted pedophiles as members, then he claims everyone against pedophilia is a pedo and now this.

JSG is a nasty piece of pedo shit.

 

[Tepes Thot]

He also says the everyone, including the parents (!) who are warning people about that queer pedo book are pedophiles themselves. There is no doubt in my mind that this sick fuck is a fucking pedo. First he defends the gay pedo choir who was singing "We are coming for your kids" and has actual convicted pedophiles as members, then he claims everyone against pedophilia is a pedo and now this.

JSG is a nasty piece of pedo shit.

Yeah, he’s just like Vaush (who I also think is a pedo). They create this false trap “you can’t be upset about pedos and want to protect kids because this other thing exists!”.

That way of thinking ONLY benefits pedophiles. Add in his constant defense of them, and yeah he’s team diddler.

 

[Mister Dongs]

Just Some Guy on Twitter: "For those who don't like my "bad takes," I…

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JSP has gotten wind of the blowback for his latest retarded take and presents his followers with a very intelligent and rational dichotomy: you either support graphic depictions of gay sex being distributed in school libraries or you support the Taliban executing gay people. There is no in between.

This is a crosspost from the Fandom Menace thread, but yesterday Anna TSWG had a delightful encounter with one of her fans. A 63 year old man who kept her trapped in conversation for 40 livestreamed, horrifying minutes before talking about how much he loves her and how smooth her skin is and such. It makes one think: if Anna is not assertive enough to be able to shake this convention creep off, no wonder Cecil has not gotten the hint that she will never have sex with him and go back to working on Cash Grab.

 

[Ike Aim]

Anna TSWG had a delightful encounter with one of her fans. A 63 year old man who kept her trapped in conversation for 40 livestreamed, horrifying minutes before talking about how much he loves her and how smooth her skin is and such.

21:30 is toppest.

Creep:
I love y-, we love you, love you, just couldn't get to you...
Anna:
you know what, umm, it's online... [ DO-NOT-WANT hand gesture intensifies ] Oh, look! Puppies!

Poor Anna. What's this world coming to when a gal can't walk around in a skin-tight body suit without being drooled on by geriatric schizoids? Where was Peaches? Where were the men???

 

[A nameless trool]

This reminded me of an incident from a simpler time (10 years ago) when the pre-TDS comics industry wasn't quite so polarized.

Some of you may remember the story of Rob Granito, a borderline retarded clown who made a living swiping other artists work and selling it at conventions. Granito made all sorts of improbable claims about his industry credits, including being a "ghost artist" for both Marvel and DC, working on Batman The Animated Series and, maybe his most ridiculous whopper, that he worked on Calvin and Hobbes.

Granito had no shame, swiping not only comic art but DVD covers, movie posters, even photographs of cosplayers/models. Like many liars and con artists, he couldn't help but name drop to make himself look like something he wasn't. This is where his grift hit a wall. Shortly after the passing of the prolific and well respected writer Dwayne McDuffie, Granito posted this on Facebook:

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Implying he worked with McDuffie was the final straw and his reckoning came at 2011's MegaCon in Orlando in the form of the unlikely tag team of Mark Waid and our very own @FROG. The MegaCon Mega Powers, if you will.

The confrontation was detailed over at Bleeding Cool, where Rich Johnston actually did some journalism and wrote an in-depth series of articles on the Granito story which are worth a read if you didn't know anything about it.

Rob Granito’s MegaCon Adventure With Mark Waid

It may not have escaped your notice that Rob Granito appeared at MegaCon this weekend. You can catch up with the timeline here. Ethan Van Sciver

bleedingcool.com

Granito was banned from cons after this became public and attempted to reinvent himself as sort of a Charlie Sheen type "bad boy of comics", charging ridiculous amounts for interviews and claiming he had industry dirt which got him "blacklisted" from a business he never worked in.

Sorry for the derail, but the idea of Mark Waid confronting people at cons reminded me of this story and it's interesting that even back in 2011 Waid was casually referring to EVS as a "right wing Nazi".

There is poetry in that part:

Don't give me too much credit for the co-smackdown, folks. It's just that when I heard that he'd tried to capitalize off Dwayne's death, that was the last straw for me. I saw red and stormed over with Ethan. We were both livid. I told Fraudboy in no uncertain terms that I will personally contact every convention there is and warn them… not to give him a table if they ever want to see me or MY friends there, EVER. I also screamed at him when he said "Well, truthfully–" that he is not allowed to use that word, ever, ever. That word means nothing coming from him.
I believe my exact endquote, two hours before the show closed, was, "Make your money here, because this is your last convention. Do you understand me? This is your last show." That's right, I was so pissed, I unilaterally appointed myself Sheriff of All Comicons. I should have a badge made.

The fact that the

comics' leading rightwing Nazi

was also involved makes the irony that much sweeter...

 

[Weeb Slinger]

Cash Grab update:

On this now privated "super boring livestream", Frog relates his annoyance with how Cecil is spending full time promoting Anna's calendar crowdfund and trying to rally him and Jon Malin into publishing the somehow botched calendar campaign on her behalf in private DM groups. Both Frog and Malin 'firmly suggested' in the convo that Cecil's energy would be better spent fixing his own disastrously overdue campaign instead of fretting over easily fixed issues for a cosplay calendar, further describing Cecil's behavior as "embarassing thirst". Frog openly floats the prospect of publishing Cash Grab on Cecil's behalf, as he inked art has been done by Donal Delay since January and colored since May. Frog is still under the belief that Cecil is a "highly competent person" in real life and not the obvious, so these developments just befuddle him.

I have fond memories of Cecil when he first started appearing on ComicsGate streams, and would turn up without announcing himself, and just make small but distracting background noise that would make Ethan go spare. There was an immediate natural animosity between him and Nerkish, as if both men recognised that the community wasn't big enough for two freaks of their particular stripe.

He's an intuitively funny conversationist and, no doubt, competent up to a point; a great guy to share a few drinks with. He also strikes me as the kind of chap who might take the company payroll to Vegas with the intention of doubling it on the blackjack tables, but then get distracted on the drive up and end up blowing it all on coke and strippers before even setting foot inside a casino.

Cash Grab doesn't seem to be a complicated project. There is no good reason for it to be two years late. For all the jokes about the book being a literal cash grab, it will be a blow to the reputation of ComicsGate if it doesn't get fulfilled soon, and will perhaps mark the close of an era in crowdfunded books by amateurs.

Anna may combine mediocre talent with a somewhat bland personality but, to her credit, she has made both go a long way, and has been successfully milking the community for several years. Cecil's unrequited thirst for her has reached a point where he should think about ditching the masks and instead switching to a fedora, with the brim pulled down over his face, Like Michael Jackson when he used to perform Billie Jean live.

It's times like these when your best friend is supposed to discreetly take you to one side and tell you to get a grip.